That is not the New York Times. Where is the New York Times article you (and the youtube piece) refer to ?
That is not the New York Times. Where is the New York Times article you (and the youtube piece) refer to ?
It doesn't actually exist, that's why.They are talking about it on there.
Im not your lapdog.
Search for it yourself you big lazy arse.
To be fair it was always iterated that without a vaccination then not overloading the nhs was the overriding aim.
It doesn't actually exist, that's why.
You are posting what Trumpy would refer to as 'Fake news' but I guess you know that.
Thanks Tommy. That article certainly doesn't say that China manufactured the crisis as stated by the poster.
My daughter has received a letter today to be randomly tested for antibodies
As she was quite poorly back in February after returning from Amsterdam and then a few more of us in the family developed coughing, chest, fever, pain and breathing difficulties here’s hoping
My daughters mum in law tested positive for antibodies last week. It’s a bloody lottery’s isn’t it !My lad was tested recently, after working all through the pandemic on the front line at a hospital, but tested negative.
Hope your result is more positive, Lala!
The kids then pass it on to their parents and elderly grandparents with potentially devastating results. This is a real danger if the virus is still as lethal as before.They’re certainly spreading it round those pesky kids.
As long as no one dies then all good
Building some immunity though with very low fatality rate.2988 new positives recorded today but thankfully only 2 deaths. Seems pretty conclusive that its being spread amongst the younger elements of society.
Which is fine and would be great if they isolate from their older relatives, which of course they won’t.Building some immunity though with very low fatality rate.
You really are an absolute idiot and becoming very tiresome.LACK OF DEATH MYSTERY - AS SECOND COVID TSUNAMI HITS UK
Widespread disappointment as daily dose of death doesn’t arrive. Experts assure public Death is Coming!!
BRAVE BRIT LAUGH IN THE JAWS OF DEATHLACK OF DEATH MYSTERY - AS SECOND COVID TSUNAMI HITS UK
Widespread disappointment as daily dose of death doesn’t arrive. Experts assure public Death is Coming!!
That may or may not be the case. The point about the rise in infections is the knock on effect to the economy and any return to normality etc. Rises mean more people having to self isolate. For example, a school in Longridge has had to shut for Years 7-9 because a member of staff has tested positive resulting in 12 staff having to also isolate.Building some immunity though with very low fatality rate.
Case numbers are rising very quickly - if there’s little change in the death rates then we are in the great position that the virus is killing significantly less people than alcohol everyday.You really are an absolute idiot and becoming very tiresome.
We know we are behind Europe. Unfortunately the death rates have started to creep up following a significant rise in cases over the past couple of weeks.Case numbers are rising very quickly - if there’s little change in the death rates then we are in the great position that the virus is killing significantly less people than alcohol everyday.
We need to stop the cases rising quickly to avoid this risk. If we don’t and the death rates stay low then people like Bifster will be proved right.
But Bifster has a persistent cough.Case numbers are rising very quickly - if there’s little change in the death rates then we are in the great position that the virus is killing significantly less people than alcohol everyday.
We need to stop the cases rising quickly to avoid this risk. If we don’t and the death rates stay low then people like Bifster will be proved right.
And if the alternative is continuing to self isolate now, just incase, then economy still suffers, and strong immunity isn’t built.That may or may not be the case. The point about the rise in infections is the knock on effect to the economy and any return to normality etc. Rises mean more people having to self isolate. For example, a school in Longridge has had to shut for Years 7-9 because a member of staff has tested positive resulting in 12 staff having to also isolate.
Once furlough ends, how many lower paid employees will be tempted to ignore medical advice.
The lessening of deaths and the effect on the health service being diminished is more than welcome though.
Ah yes. But the current thinking is that immunity may only last for a few weeks/months. In which case the idea of herd immunity is nonsense.And if the alternative is continuing to self isolate now, just incase, then economy still suffers, and strong immunity isn’t built.
I think from the offset if we could have mass infection with the fewest fatalities that would have been the preferred option.
We really don’t know how long immunity lasts. I know of only two people tested for antibodies who still have the antibodies now as they are tested on an ongoing basis, both had minor symptoms 5 months ago.Ah yes. But the current thinking is that immunity may only last for a few weeks/months. In which case the idea of herd immunity is nonsense.
I'm not advocating anything in particular one way or the other. I'm simply pointing out that there is a shift in emphasis on the effect this virus will have. I suppose it's a realisation that we will have times where we will have greater and lesser normality.And if the alternative is continuing to self isolate now, just incase, then economy still suffers, and strong immunity isn’t built.
I think from the offset if we could have mass infection with the fewest fatalities that would have been the preferred option.
It's looking like the beginning of exponential growth again. Really hope not, but the graph today looks very similar to the start of Spain and France's second curve. Unfortunately, the time lag translating into deaths over there now seems to be kicking in so we could be in for a bad time during October and November unless this case growth can be arrested.Highest recorded Covid-19 cases in one day today (3,000) highest figure since mid March.
Who says it’s nothing to worry about?
A percentage of tests would be a useful / better comparator.Highest recorded Covid-19 cases in one day today (3,000) highest figure since mid March.
Who says it’s nothing to worry about?
The number of tests processed daily has declined day on day for the last week (208k down to 175k). There is no data of how many people are tested daily but if tests processed are declining you can make a reasonable assumption number of people being tested is reducing also.A percentage of tests would be a useful / better comparator.
Like every year, just a different infection this yearMy lad was tested again today.
He got a message on his football club whatsapp that a player had tested positive after training on Thursday and they all had to get tested asap.
He took the message after calling in for breakfast this morning, and we were all sat down eating.
Made me nearly choke on my croissants.
He expects uni to be a petri dish of infection come the Autumn...
Yet infections are steadily rising. I had assumed it was because of increased testing.The number of tests processed daily has declined day on day for the last week (208k down to 175k). There is no data of how many people are tested daily but if tests processed are declining you can make a reasonable assumption number of people being tested is reducing also.
I have a theory that the viral load you get will have a close relationship to how ill you become. With greater awareness, use of masks, hand washing, track and trace, etc then most cases now are likely to have had a weaker exposure and hopefully a less serious illness.If these new cases start to turn into hospitalisation and deaths then a second wave is surely on its way I would think. Most NHS staff seem to be fully expecting it according to two I have spoken to over the weekend.
I think there is still some hope seeing that the level of deaths so far has not shifted much. I know this is a lagging indicator, and if it is mainly young people being infected now then it may take longer to kick in, but just maybe the virus is now less dangerous or the social distancing, masks etc are weakening it’s effect?
Until that starts happening, the media don't give a shit about whether that are 2 deaths and X people in hospital. Until it fits the scaremongering narrative or they can start using their "SECOND WAVEZ OMGZ" media they chalked up two months ago. They won't report on deaths or number of hospital admissions. Because let's face it, as long as the number of people dying gets to 0 and the amount of people with ACTUAL covid gets less and less in hospital, we are still in a bit of a rut.If these new cases start to turn into hospitalisation and deaths then a second wave is surely on its way I would think. Most NHS staff seem to be fully expecting it according to two I have spoken to over the weekend.
I think there is still some hope seeing that the level of deaths so far has not shifted much. I know this is a lagging indicator, and if it is mainly young people being infected now then it may take longer to kick in, but just maybe the virus is now less dangerous or the social distancing, masks etc are weakening it’s effect?
Yep, I think I heard that somewhere re the viral load. I think the precautions we are taking in most areas are enough to keep things safe for now.I have a theory that the viral load you get will have a close relationship to how ill you become. With greater awareness, use of masks, hand washing, track and trace, etc then most cases now are likely to have had a weaker exposure and hopefully a less serious illness.
Until that starts happening, the media don't give a shit about whether that are 2 deaths and X people in hospital. Until it fits the scaremongering narrative or they can start using their "SECOND WAVEZ OMGZ" media they chalked up two months ago. They won't report on deaths or number of hospital admissions. Because let's face it, as long as the number of people dying gets to 0 and the amount of people with ACTUAL covid gets less and less in hospital, we are still in a bit of a rut.
No one wants an all clear and everything is okay when it isn't.You may be right but until it is clear what is actually happening I think it would be very irresponsible for the media to sound any sort of “all clear” especially if as posted above it does turn out to be the social distancing, mask wearing etc that is lessening the effects of the virus.
With confirmed cases seemingly on a rapid rise again all hell could break out again once we are all driven back inside by the weather.
The two GPs I talked to at the weekend are bracing themselves for the next wave. Let’s hope they are wrong.
The two GPs I talked to at the weekend are bracing themselves for the next wave. Let’s hope they are wrong.
You’re lucky that your GP’s have emerged out of their bunker from the first wave. Most local GP’s have disappeared up their own backsides since March.
No surprise that those who have re-emerged are already preparing their exit plans.
A percentage of tests would be a useful / better comparator.
I have a theory that the viral load you get will have a close relationship to how ill you become. With greater awareness, use of masks, hand washing, track and trace, etc then most cases now are likely to have had a weaker exposure and hopefully a less serious illness.
Yep, I think I heard that somewhere re the viral load. I think the precautions we are taking in most areas are enough to keep things safe for now.