Blackpool Are Back!
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Things are looking much better, though you wouldn't think so, watching the news.
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2 fukcing deaths from a population of 67 million.....more people die of snow blindness daily ffs!......and we still have a lot of Economy killing, livelihood killing measures in place...whilst paying people to go out to eat Mon-Weds which all the cheapskates have lapped up........Just open everything up and accept that people die everyday from a myriad of illnesses/reasonsYet the R rate has increased to 0.8 to 1.1
Now is not the time for complacency, stay vigilant and we’ll beat this.
Infections are going down, based on the three available sources of data in the UK. The only dubious increase is in the so called R rate, which is typically 3 weeks behind and is virtually meaningless when numbers are so low.Deaths are down but infections are going up so it’s far from over.
2 years actually before it’s eradicated, that’s from the medical experts this morning on the BBC news not me so don’t shoot the messenger.
I saw a clip last night on the news the infection rate was starting to creep up more towns are going in to lock down more countries are being added to the 14 day self isolation list unless I’am dreaming it all.Infections are going down, based on the three available sources of data in the UK. The only dubious increase is in the so called R rate, which is typically 3 weeks behind and is virtually meaningless when numbers are so low.
The 2 years number is nothing more than an arbitrary figure which is based on the Spanish Flu epidemic and the WHO president stating that “He thinks we should be able to deal with Covid more quickly”
I’m not sure Countries being added to the 14 day self isolation list has anything to do with the infection rate in the UK.I saw a clip last night on the news the infection rate was starting to creep up more towns are going in to lock down more countries are being added to the 14 day self isolation list unless I’am dreaming it all.
I won’t be going abroad any time soon that’s for sure and these people breaking social distancing rules by holding illegal raves need locking up not fining them £100.
Absolutely correct.If the infection rate is creeping up, it is because there are far more people being tested than ever before.
And those that are being tested positive are largely very mild cases, that require no hospital treatment - look no further than Blackpool Victoria's empty covid wards as an example.
The number of deaths is now at such a small rate, that was inconceivable only a few weeks ago, but news channels would rather pump up the fear factor, than be positive about the huge progress being made.
2 UK deaths in 24 hours.
Empty hospital covid wards.
It's crazy.
The ONS testing survey is actually reporting infections are holding steady after ticking back up at beginning of July.I’m not sure Countries being added to the 14 day self isolation list has anything to do with the infection rate in the UK.
The ONS testing survey and the C19 app have both released the latest data, which suggests the rate of infection is going down.
The 7 day average (actual recorded infections) is also down.
I’m sure we’re all acutely aware that there are small isolated pockets of infection, because the press barely report anything else, but on a national level the number of people infected is dropping.
I've not seen anything reported on this. Can you link to source of data.Story I heard today is as the virus is now infecting younger, healthier bodies and that when they are passing it on that it is a far weaker strain and whilst it would still lead to a positive test, it is so weak it wouldn't do much damage. I think this was what they were hoping for with herd immunity at the start of all this.
The ONS testing survey is actually reporting infections are holding steady after ticking back up at beginning of July.
' There is some evidence of a small increase in the percentage of people testing positive for COVID-19 in July, following a low point in June, but this appears to have now levelled off. '
'There is not enough evidence to say at this point that there has been a fall in incidence in the most recent week, therefore we continue to report that the incidence rate for England has levelled off.'
Where did I say infections were rising ? Please enlighten me.7 Day Average - Down by 5%
Latest Daily Figure - Down by 28%
ONS Sample Prediction - Down by 37%
Covid 19 App Prediction - Down
“ Statisticians at the Government-run agency said that while cases had been on the climb since July - prompting fears of a second wave - the epidemic's upward trajectory had now been stopped in its tracks. “
“ There was a small rise in cases in July - the percentage of people testing positive rose to 0.07 per cent in the week ending July 26 - BUT THIS APPEARS TO HAVE DROPPED AGAIN”
I’m struggling to see any suggestion that the numbers are increasing, as suggested above, but perhaps you could enlighten us??
2 fukcing deaths from a population of 67 million.....
Where did I say infections were rising ? Please enlighten me.
Just pointing out that the ONS survey does not say evidence of infections are falling as you stated.
There is no evidence that the measures (lockdown) the government put in place have saved a single life.Its 2 people a day because of the measures you complain about, it was well over 1,000 per day at the peak, are you suggesting we should go back to that?
Very true and valid pointHospitals need to get back to treating patients with other serious illnesses timeously
There’s a ticking time bomb there arising from lengthy delays in testing / treatment that needs prioritising before it’s too late
It’s payback for Brexit.Of course all of this doesn't affect the youth of today.
200+ teenagers celebrating their revised A Level results in Stanley Park.
Of course the young of today seem to be less affected by Coviod 19, but will their parents be happy if they carry the virus home?
Far better to get it from Donalds tweets.Can I suggest you stop taking your health advice from the BBC
And from the health experts on here.Far better to get it from Donalds tweets.
No, it's just a massive ** coincidence that deaths dropped off.There is no evidence that the measures (lockdown) the government put in place have saved a single life.
From someone who has Eric Blair as his avatar. Or is that ironic, Alanis?
I don't get the irony, Oceania (for example) was fiction based on a possible future, not a baseless conspiracy theory?From someone who has Eric Blair as his avatar. Or is that ironic, Alanis?
dashed line is the date we went into lockdownNo, it's just a massive ** coincidence that deaths dropped off.
dashed line is the date we went into lockdown
Oh my god ! If we hadn't locked down nobody would have died. It is so obvious.*dashed line is the date we went into lockdown
Oh my god ! If we hadn't locked down nobody would have died. It is so obvious.*
* if you are stupid
Lockdown had nothing to do with deaths, fuck all I'm afraid, any government couldn't give a toss if you die, as long as it costs them nowt.
The lockdown was to prevent the collapse of the healthcare system, which was (and as winter approaches, is) a real probability if nothing was done, a bad flu season pushes it close, everywhere, not just here. Letting Covid just 'run its course' was never politically an option. Once the powers that be knew this lockdown was inevitable.
They won't tell you this but in every single meeting from local to cabinet this is the theme, it's also glaringly ** obvious when the noise is filtered out.
The NHS funding model allows no extra capacity, youve consistently got it in your department? Well we'll just throttle the budget back.
You want some future and crisis planning? Vote for someone who will tax appropriately and ensure vanity and private profits play no part, sorry but it's true. Take the money wasted on failed no tender awards since March as an example.
This hasn't gone away, there's no jab for it as yet and until there is you can whinge and throw suitable numbers and charts around all you like, normal life isn't returning unless the virus mysteriously disappears, which is hugely unlikely.
at last someone who is getting it.2 fukcing deaths from a population of 67 million.....more people die of snow blindness daily ffs!......and we still have a lot of Economy killing, livelihood killing measures in place...whilst paying people to go out to eat Mon-Weds which all the cheapskates have lapped up........Just open everything up and accept that people die everyday from a myriad of illnesses/reasons
I won't often say this, but to be fair, from the off Boris was talking about flattening the curve with his sombrero analogy in order to reduce the pressure on NHS. With the Nightingales not having to be deployed in any major way, we seem to have done that, albeit with too many unnecessary deaths.As I eluded to earlier I’m more convinced that it was all about saving the seriously underfunded NHS and not lives . Now it’s just scaremongering, “ do as we say or .....”
I won't often say this, but to be fair, from the off Boris was talking about flattening the curve with his sombrero analogy in order to reduce the pressure on NHS. With the Nightingales not having to be deployed in any major way, we seem to have done that, albeit with too many unnecessary deaths.
Can you link to that as I can't find it.New York Times report today, saying China manufactured the global crisis!