Brexit Oven Ready Deal burnt to a crisp

tangerinenotorange said:
Peston put that point to Angela Rayner last night, asking why at PMQs Keir barely raised the subject of the Internal Market Bill. As Peston speculated, maybe that's because people don't seem all that bothered about the new legislation offending the EU. The perception of the UK public is that the EU is not playing with a straight bat and is blocking a deal.
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And what was Rayner's reply?
 
ITS JUST GREAT .ISN'T IT ..WE DONT HAVE TO DO NOWT LET THE TORIES IN THE GREAT RED WALL THE THINK IS SECURE LIE THIS CHAOS AWAY
TAKE CARE ..T
 
Just getting the hang of this ,enjoying it . Let's talk The greatest thing from ..let's say The red flag..TEST AND TRACE. decent enough topic
 
tommytwojags said:
Boris Johnson is not great but he's a long way ahead of everyone else. I see he's going for 10,000,000 virus tests a day. Whatever you think of him you can't say he sets his targets low.
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Johnson is nothing but a duplicitous little shit. There’s not an ounce of moral fibre in his body.

He’d have shot his own mother if he thought it would have helped him climb to the top of the greasy pole!
 
tommytwojags said:
Boris Johnson is not great but he's a long way ahead of everyone else. I see he's going for 10,000,000 virus tests a day. Whatever you think of him you can't say he sets his targets low.
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Has he actually hit any of his self-declared targets or met any deadline to date yet... without fiddling the numbers or moving the goalposts? I think not.
 
It is all starting to unravel pretty quickly
The EU is now threatening legal action against the UK government and the US Democrats making their own threats to the UK government over potential breaches of the Good Friday agreement.

And at home there could be problems passing the legislation;

Speaking on Radio 4's PM programme after the debate, former Conservative chancellor Lord Lamont said ministers would have to "think again" over the bill.

The Brexit-backing peer added: "I don't think it's going to get through the Lords in its present form".

He said the admission it would breach international law was "impossible to defend" and the government was in "a terrible mess" over the issue.

What a shambles!
 
ElBurroSinNombre said:
It is all starting to unravel pretty quickly
The EU is now threatening legal action against the UK government and the US Democrats making their own threats to the UK government over potential breaches of the Good Friday agreement.

And at home there could be problems passing the legislation;

Speaking on Radio 4's PM programme after the debate, former Conservative chancellor Lord Lamont said ministers would have to "think again" over the bill.

The Brexit-backing peer added: "I don't think it's going to get through the Lords in its present form".

He said the admission it would breach international law was "impossible to defend" and the government was in "a terrible mess" over the issue.

What a shambles!
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Small correction.

It’s not just the Democrats in the US. The “Friends of Ireland” are bi-partisan. There are Irish Americans in the Republican Party as well.
 
Nancy Pelosi: "If the UK violates that international treaty and Brexit undermines the Good Friday Accord, there will be absolutely no chance of a US - UK trade agreement passing through congress."

Well, that went well, didn`t it

Never mind we can still trade with the E...oh,bugger!

Anyone for a U-turn?🙃
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Pelosi has evidently been very careful with the wording of her statement.
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Well you’d expect that from her. She’s a proper politician.

And I do know what you mean. A breach of the Withdrawal Agreement doesn’t necessarily mean a breach of the GFA ie a hard border between NI and the ROI.

But it brings us right back to the conundrum that May tussled with for a long time. And it’s not really a conundrum that disappears with either a FTA or no deal. Different customs arrangements involve checks. So where will they be?
 
spudgun said:
Nancy Pelosi: "If the UK violates that international treaty and Brexit undermines the Good Friday Accord, there will be absolutely no chance of a US - UK trade agreement passing through congress."
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Mexboroseasider said:
Well you’d expect that from Pelosi. She’s a proper politician.
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Oh dear, she just didn't get it did she? Thought it was all about the UK breaching the Good Friday Agreement. Always best for US politicians to keep out of the politics of other countries. They should know that by now.
 
tangerinenotorange said:
Oh dear, she just didn't get it did she? Thought it was all about the UK breaching the Good Friday Agreement. Always best for US politicians to keep out of the politics of other countries. They should know that by now.
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Very naughty Tonto. You’ve selectively edited my original post.

I suspect Pelosi knows exactly what’s going on.
 
Not true at all my little Yorkshire terrier and, what's more, the truth behind the Internal Market Bill is now slowly emerging following tweets today from UK Chief Negotiator Lord Frost. The issue concerns the implications of the EU’s refusal to list Britain as a third country for food imports. Yesterday, Michel Barnier dismissed the Prime Minister’s claim that the Northern Ireland Protocol could be used to break up the UK and denied that Brussels is refusing to list Britain as a third country for food imports. However, Lord Frost has tweeted that the EU knows perfectly well all the details of our food standards rules because we are operating EU rules. Therefore, the situation on 1 January 2021 is very clear.

Frost said “This has been discussed many times with the EU including last week, but it has been made clear to us in the current talks that there is no guarantee of listing us. I am afraid it has also been said to us explicitly in these talks that if we are not listed we will not be able to move food to Northern Ireland. The EU's position is that listing is needed for Great Britain only, not Northern Ireland. So if GB were not listed, it would be automatically illegal for NI to import food products from GB.”

Very very naughty Barnier threatening that nice Lord Frost and then pretending he didn't. He's a bit like a school yard bully. Good job Boris is on the ball.
 
tangerinenotorange said:
Not true at all my little Yorkshire terrier and, what's more, the truth behind the Internal Market Bill is now slowly emerging following tweets today from UK Chief Negotiator Lord Frost. The issue concerns the implications of the EU’s refusal to list Britain as a third country for food imports. Yesterday, Michel Barnier dismissed the Prime Minister’s claim that the Northern Ireland Protocol could be used to break up the UK and denied that Brussels is refusing to list Britain as a third country for food imports. However, Lord Frost has tweeted that the EU knows perfectly well all the details of our food standards rules because we are operating EU rules. Therefore, the situation on 1 January 2021 is very clear.

Frost said “This has been discussed many times with the EU including last week, but it has been made clear to us in the current talks that there is no guarantee of listing us. I am afraid it has also been said to us explicitly in these talks that if we are not listed we will not be able to move food to Northern Ireland. The EU's position is that listing is needed for Great Britain only, not Northern Ireland. So if GB were not listed, it would be automatically illegal for NI to import food products from GB.”

Very very naughty Barnier threatening that nice Lord Frost and then pretending he didn't. He's a bit like a school yard bully. Good job Boris is on the ball.
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Is that Frosty the No Man?

And just how is the Barnier Blockade going to be implemented?

French Frigates off Fleetwood?

Belgian Battleships off Blackpool?

Hyperbole Hovercrafts off Heysham?

It’s all very exciting I must say.
 
Mexboroseasider said:
Well you’d expect that from her. She’s a proper politician.

And I do know what you mean. A breach of the Withdrawal Agreement doesn’t necessarily mean a breach of the GFA ie a hard border between NI and the ROI.

But it brings us right back to the conundrum that May tussled with for a long time. And it’s not really a conundrum that disappears with either a FTA or no deal. Different customs arrangements involve checks. So where will they be?
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Hahahaha Pelosi a proper politician hahahahahaha what a dick.
 
I have been saying for nigh on three years that we need to build a lot more Coastguard patrol boats. Italy has 600 boats for their coastline while we have 12. This is going to get very messy and Barnier seems to be trying to rile up the French fishermen (easily done). Surprisingly, the Spanish, whose ports are just as reliant on British waters for their catch, have been relatively quiet so far.

But I half expect Bozo to sell out the UK’s fishermen to the EU with a last minute concession on fishing and then try and blame it all on Sturgeon.
 
tommytwojags said:
Boris Johnson is not great but he's a long way ahead of everyone else. I see he's going for 10,000,000 virus tests a day. Whatever you think of him you can't say he sets his targets low.
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Great! Every time his policy collapses he makes up an even bigger nonsensical target he will fail to meet again. It's like Robert Mugabe is in charge of the UK. On corruption, respect for democracy and international law and cronyism he might as well be.
 
Archibald Knox said:
I have been saying for nigh on three years that we need to build a lot more Coastguard patrol boats. Italy has 600 boats for their coastline while we have 12. This is going to get very messy and Barnier seems to be trying to rile up the French fishermen (easily done). Surprisingly, the Spanish, whose ports are just as reliant on British waters for their catch, have been relatively quiet so far.

But I half expect Bozo to sell out the UK’s fishermen to the EU with a last minute concession on fishing and then try and blame it all on Sturgeon.
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Did’nt Spain sell out the Uk to Argentina by backing the Argies during the Falklands war ?No solidarity there with a then fellow EU member! The same Spain that has territorial designs on Gibraltar.🇬🇧
 
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Trade deals, fishing rights, virus tests, USA politics, Internal Market Bill all on one thread. I can't keep up. Where's me breakfast.
 
Mexboroseasider said:
Haha.

More hate filled negativity from Scara 😂
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Haha where’s the hate, I’m laughing at you. Oh by the way is that the same Pelosi that broke strict lock down rules to get her hair done ? Is that not a bit like your mate Cummings taking an afternoon drive ? Double standards and all that eh mex.
 
Mexboroseasider said:
No one ever claimed she was. L’Etranger said she headed up the body (Congress) that has to ratify the trade deal.

You got it wrong.

This is what happens when you allow your hate to blind you I’m afraid.
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Nope wrong again mexy, no hate here except from the rabid Left stressing out about everything. You do realise just because we disagree on something it doesn’t instantly mean your right don’t you. Probably not.
 
Scaramanga said:
Nope wrong again mexy, no hate here except from the rabid Left stressing out about everything. You do realise just because we disagree on something it doesn’t instantly mean your right don’t you. Probably not.
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Well I do know that The Wonderful Nancy heads up Congress. And that Congress has to ratify any trade deal. Which you seemed to be struggling to grasp for some reason. Lol
 
Mexboroseasider said:
Well I do know that The Wonderful Nancy heads up Congress. And that Congress has to ratify any trade deal. Which you seemed to be struggling to grasp for some reason. Lol
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Not at all mexy, your also assuming that she will vote non, some inside information you have.
 
And of course all politicians are honest aren’t they mex, please refer back to question I originally asked you re Pelosi which you have conveniently decided to ignore.
 
Trammo said:
Did’nt Spain sell out the Uk to Argentina by backing the Argies during the Falklands war ?No solidarity there with a then fellow EU member! The same Spain that has territorial designs on Gibraltar.🇬🇧
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Again showing your absolute bigoted ignorance as Spain wasn't in the EU during the Falklands War
 
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