Autumn Budget

Unsurprisingly state pension going up with inflation, nice bonus for most that don't need it. Maybe increasing pension credit alongside other means tested benefits would have fit the fairness mandate. That wouldn't have been vote winning though. 🙄
 
Halifax71 said:
Unsurprisingly state pension going up with inflation, nice bonus for most that don't need it. Maybe increasing pension credit alongside other means tested benefits would have fit the fairness mandate. That wouldn't have been vote winning though. 🙄
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Helping the poorest in society? This lot?

Car tax on electric vehicles. Only from 2025 though.
 
Halifax71 said:
Unsurprisingly state pension going up with inflation, nice bonus for most that don't need it. Maybe increasing pension credit alongside other means tested benefits would have fit the fairness mandate. That wouldn't have been vote winning though. 🙄
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Benefits going up by inflation too. Not sure on pension credit. Technically not a benefit.
 
Chunkylad said:
Capital gains allowance slashed and company dividends. Not good for SME owners or tradesmen.
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The whole thing stinks.

Triple lock on pensions should be abolished or at best means tested.

10% on benefits while offering 5% to nurses - stunning!

Apart from the disabled I would pay 6 months money on benefits and then food vouchers after that, that cannot be spent on fags, booze, holidays or Sky.

Yes we need to support people but it mustn’t be to easy (with the exception of people who have genuine disabilities where I would increase payments dramatically).

The UK is broke and this doesn’t fix it.

It punishes hard working people far to much, especially people with SMEs who are trying to get by.

A large part of the country needs to get back to work and I don’t see how this budget encourages that.
 
seasideone said:
Apart from the disabled I would pay 6 months money on benefits and then food vouchers after that, that cannot be spent on fags, booze, holidays or Sky.
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Spot on, totally agree.

My wife works at a Doctors Surgery, and did so all through COVID. She's received no end of abuse from patients due to not seeing the doctors.

She's part time and recently was off work for 8 weeks after a painful foot operation. She couldn't get sick pay or ANY benefits to help with this time away from work, yet some lazy fat bastards (and plenty of others) who've never worked in their lives, go to McDonalds by taxi when they've got their benefits.........its disgraceful.
 
seasideone said:
The whole thing stinks.

Triple lock on pensions should be abolished or at best means tested.

10% on benefits while offering 5% to nurses - stunning!

Apart from the disabled I would pay 6 months money on benefits and then food vouchers after that, that cannot be spent on fags, booze, holidays or Sky.

Yes we need to support people but it mustn’t be to easy (with the exception of people who have genuine disabilities where I would increase payments dramatically).

The UK is broke and this doesn’t fix it.

It punishes hard working people far to much, especially people with SMEs who are trying to get by.

A large part of the country needs to get back to work and I don’t see how this budget encourages that.
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I'm trying to fathom you out, (well, your avftt characerture anyway 😉). Are you Ebenezer Scrooge or Wilkins Micawber?
 
1966_and_all_that said:
I'm trying to fathom you out, (well, your avftt characerture anyway 😉). Are you Ebenezer Scrooge or Wilkins Micawber?
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Just someone who has worked very hard all his life until I retired.

I hate people who just take and have the ability to give back.

The UK is in trouble because there are to many lazy good for nothing sucking the state dry scum - they just take the p1ss all the time.

If they can, and can’t be arsed to work - why in hell should we subsidise them???
 
seasideone said:
The whole thing stinks.

Triple lock on pensions should be abolished or at best means tested.

10% on benefits while offering 5% to nurses - stunning!

Apart from the disabled I would pay 6 months money on benefits and then food vouchers after that, that cannot be spent on fags, booze, holidays or Sky.

Yes we need to support people but it mustn’t be to easy (with the exception of people who have genuine disabilities where I would increase payments dramatically).

The UK is broke and this doesn’t fix it.

It punishes hard working people far to much, especially people with SMEs who are trying to get by.

A large part of the country needs to get back to work and I don’t see how this budget encourages that.
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2% offer to those administering the benefits, despite a good proportion of those actually able to claim Universal Credit.
 
seasideone said:
Just someone who has worked very hard all his life until I retired.

I hate people who just take and have the ability to give back.

The UK is in trouble because there are to many lazy good for nothing sucking the state dry scum - they just take the p1ss all the time.

If they can, and can’t be arsed to work - why in hell should we subsidise them???
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Current unemployment level is 3%, to give some perspective.
 
seasideone said:
The whole thing stinks.

Triple lock on pensions should be abolished or at best means tested.

10% on benefits while offering 5% to nurses - stunning!

Apart from the disabled I would pay 6 months money on benefits and then food vouchers after that, that cannot be spent on fags, booze, holidays or Sky.

Yes we need to support people but it mustn’t be to easy (with the exception of people who have genuine disabilities where I would increase payments dramatically).

The UK is broke and this doesn’t fix it.

It punishes hard working people far to much, especially people with SMEs who are trying to get by.

A large part of the country needs to get back to work and I don’t see how this budget encourages that.
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You say the UK is broke, yet the same Government has been in power for 12 years, things have got steadily worse, and we have people on here defending them to the hilt, saying its not their fault, it's world economics, the EU, or Jeremy Corbyn.
 
Wizaard said:
2% offer to those administering the benefits, despite a good proportion of those actually able to claim Universal Credit.
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I’m getting madder and madder reading this thread!!

I respect anyone who can work and does work, I do not respect people who can work and do not.

The level of their position is irrelevant, it’s about their personal pride in doing that job to the best of their ability.
 
seasideone said:
I’m getting madder and madder reading this thread!!

I respect anyone who can work and does work, I do not respect people who can work and do not.

The level of their position is irrelevant, it’s about their personal pride in doing that job to the best of their ability.
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A 2% payrise in the current climate on top of a decade of pay freezes is an insult and reflects the contempt this Government has for the public sector.
 
Wizaard said:
You say the UK is broke, yet the same Government has been in power for 12 years, things have got steadily worse, and we have people on here defending them to the hilt, saying its not their fault, it's world economics, the EU, or Jeremy Corbyn.
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This shower are terrible and I fear the next GE.

I don’t think any of the parties are fit for power, which is some bit of an issue!
 
I heard that the government is going to offer a means-tested VAT cut on hot water bottles.
 
HM Gov simply don't have the ability to means test anything, which is mind boggling really. This applies to pensions, prescriptions, bus/train asses etc.
We all know wealthy pensioners. One of our neighbours are both on pensions, own a 2nd a house in Spain where they've been for the last 6 weeks, 2 cars (she doesn't drive) no mortgage etc. The other are both on pensions, he works as a cash in hand painter/decorator no mortgage etc.
Our daughter & her husband both work & just about manage (JAM's) with our grandson - they get no help from anyone but us.
The current system simply isn't fair to hard working young people.
 
Wizaard said:
A 2% payrise in the current climate on top of a decade of pay freezes is an insult and reflects the contempt this Government has for the public sector.
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My mate is in Unison and they've accepted £1,925 across the board, which averages 7%, 10.5% to the lowest earners. It's still not really enough but it's a lot better than the pay freezes and 1% rises when I was in Unison. What's the offer to Civil Servants?
 
RUSTY_2_STANDS said:
My mate is in Unison and they've accepted £1,925 across the board, which averages 7%, 10.5% to the lowest earners. It's still not really enough but it's a lot better than the pay freezes and 1% rises when I was in Unison. What's the offer to Civil Servants?
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2%
 
A Budget all well and good, but I’d prefer it if the government actually tried to resolve some of the long standing issues. It’s easy to raise taxes. Doesn’t fix the issues.
 
585 = never give up said:
HM Gov simply don't have the ability to means test anything, which is mind boggling really. This applies to pensions, prescriptions, bus/train asses etc.
We all know wealthy pensioners. One of our neighbours are both on pensions, own a 2nd a house in Spain where they've been for the last 6 weeks, 2 cars (she doesn't drive) no mortgage etc. The other are both on pensions, he works as a cash in hand painter/decorator no mortgage etc.
Our daughter & her husband both work & just about manage (JAM's) with our grandson - they get no help from anyone but us.
The current system simply isn't fair to hard working young people.
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They have the ability, but in the case of pensioners, won't do because they'll lose a key demographic.

Of course, cash in hand doesn't exactly help the Exchequer. Literally robbing the public.
 
seasideone said:
Just someone who has worked very hard all his life until I retired.

I hate people who just take and have the ability to give back.

The UK is in trouble because there are to many lazy good for nothing sucking the state dry scum - they just take the p1ss all the time.

If they can, and can’t be arsed to work - why in hell should we subsidise them???
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Those who you describe are a very small percentage of the population. You would feel better if you believed that the majority of the population are trying to live well and contribute. Even those on benefits. Until then you seem to have a hatred that needn't exist.
I still think you're a decent cove btw.
 
seasideone said:
Just someone who has worked very hard all his life until I retired.

I hate people who just take and have the ability to give back.

The UK is in trouble because there are to many lazy good for nothing sucking the state dry scum - they just take the p1ss all the time.

If they can, and can’t be arsed to work - why in hell should we subsidise them???
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And how much tax do you pay in the UK?
 
1966_and_all_that said:
Those who you describe are a very small percentage of the population. You would feel better if you believed that the majority of the population are trying to live well and fo contribute. Even those on benefits. Until then you seem to have a hatred that needn't exist.
I still think you're a decent Cove btw.
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Not sure how you contribute if you are perfectly able and are on benefits??

We spend around £220 billion a year on welfare and we have just put it up by 10% - we simply cannot afford it.

For me if you are a shirker and avoiding work, it should be made so he’s for you, it becomes a necessity for you to work.

Also, having kids shouldn’t be a route into benefit financial security.

If you want kids - PAY FOR THEM!!!!

It’s also not hatred, it’s a frustration with people taking the p1ss.

Ps not sure what a cove is? 👍
 
585 = never give up said:
HM Gov simply don't have the ability to means test anything, which is mind boggling really. This applies to pensions, prescriptions, bus/train asses etc.
We all know wealthy pensioners. One of our neighbours are both on pensions, own a 2nd a house in Spain where they've been for the last 6 weeks, 2 cars (she doesn't drive) no mortgage etc. The other are both on pensions, he works as a cash in hand painter/decorator no mortgage etc.
Our daughter & her husband both work & just about manage (JAM's) with our grandson - they get no help from anyone but us.
The current system simply isn't fair to hard working young people.
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I wonder why they are wealthy pensioners? Maybe because they worked hard?
 
EPM46 said:
And how much tax do you pay in the UK?
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I’ve paid millions over the years 👍

When I lived in the UK I never tried to get out of paying tax, in fact every country I have lived in I have paid fairly and what has been asked with no dodgy schemes or fancy off shore stuff.

If I move back to the UK I will abide by UK tax law and pay what is owed without any fancy tax schemes as well.

How much have you paid?
 
seasideone said:
Not sure how you contribute if you are perfectly able and are on benefits??

We spend around £220 billion a year on welfare and we have just put it up by 10% - we simply cannot afford it.

For me if you are a shirker and avoiding work, it should be made so he’s for you, it becomes a necessity for you to work.

Also, having kids shouldn’t be a route into benefit financial security.

If you want kids - PAY FOR THEM!!!!

It’s also not hatred, it’s a frustration with people taking the p1ss.

Ps not sure what a cove is? 👍
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I'll give you time. You need to ween yourself off this hatred. It's not neccessary.
A State that helps all citizens with their first two children is a good State.

We can afford the welfare State. It's something this country is rightly proud of.

Having hang ups about 'people who take the piss' is a sign of insecurity. It's not healthy.

Enjoy your life and don't pick on those who are less fortunate.
 
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1966_and_all_that said:
I'll give you time. You need to when yourself off this hatred. It's not neccessary.
A State that helps all citizens with their first two children is a good State.

We can afford the welfare State. It's something this country is rightly proud of.

Having hang ups about 'people who take the piss' is a sign of insecurity. It's not healthy.

Enjoy your life and don't pick on those who are less fortunate.
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There is more bs in you reply than I can believe.

Yes we need a welfare state to protect the people who need it - not those who dont’t.

If you are a lazy shirker who can work and chooses not to - why should the state pay for you forever??
 
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