1966_and_all_that
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Disruptive people being derisive whilst players are making a statement for good.Why?
Do you not read what footballers, coaches and managers have said about it? Don't come the cod innocence.
Disruptive people being derisive whilst players are making a statement for good.Why?
If the players get abused during play or outside the stadium then you would have a point but to my knowledge they are not, it is the kneeling and raised fist that is getting disapproval.Anybody who boos my team will be receiving a two-fingered salute from me, never mind the players.
I've not sat at home all season watching what is turning out to be a classic Blackpool team on a third rate stream with fourth-rate commentary play in an empty stadium only to hear some politics obsessed knuckledragger booing such a great set of players come the glorious day I get to finally set foot in Bloomfield Road again.
What slightly bemuses me is the coverage of football highlights on MOTD. We know the players all take the knee for every game but why on earth does every game highlight have to include a cameo of them doing so? Can we not just accept they have done it without needing evidence?The fight against racism of itself is one which should be supported by all but when taking the knee becomes something done by rote it lacks credibility and smacks of tokenism. The ‘if your not with us you’re against us’ implication of this is a worrying social trend
Yet another smug answer.Players want to continue taking a knee
Players are "overwhelmingly in support" of continuing to take the knee, says the Professional Footballers' Association.www.bbc.co.uk
Poor players forced to take the knee against their wishes. When will the bullying stop?
Players want to continue taking a knee
Players are "overwhelmingly in support" of continuing to take the knee, says the Professional Footballers' Association.www.bbc.co.uk
Poor players forced to take the knee against their wishes. When will the bullying stop?
And it's the players decision to take the knee, some of whom also give a salute. Should they be told to leave?If he doesn’t like it in England he is welcome to leave as are others who do not respect the country,( it’s values and traditions ) that allows him and others of his ilk to earn a living or in a lot of cases just sponge off the rest of us
Well, find another way of expressing your disapproval. It is the booing of my team's players that I object to. I don't care what they are doing at the time, they could be laying a cable pitchside for all I care, you boo you get told.If the players get abused during play or outside the stadium then you would have a point but to my knowledge they are not, it is the kneeling and raised fist that is getting disapproval.
And here lies the potential problem. A flashpoint that could be avoided.Well, find another way of expressing your disapproval. It is the booing of my team's players that I object to. I don't care what they are doing at the time, they could be laying a cable pitchside for all I care, you boo you get told.
No matter what form of disapproval fans elected to take, they would still face accusations of racism.Well, find another way of expressing your disapproval. It is the booing of my team's players that I object to. I don't care what they are doing at the time, they could be laying a cable pitchside for all I care, you boo you get told.
You do that, careful you don't get nappy rash though.Anarchistic?!! Lol! Peeing myself!
You make an excellent point Wizzer.Yet another smug answer.
Have the players been forced?, we'll never know.
Just like the poor sods who have to keep quiet about their sexuality, are these boys being kept quiet to appease what others want.
Got through that phase 70 years ago but thanks for your concern anyway.You do that, careful you don't get nappy rash though.
True. That is something you need to put to the club or the players. If the knee is still taken and there still is booing at that point the booers are creating the flashpoint though.And here lies the potential problem. A flashpoint that could be avoided.
And? As long as my team aren't disrespected I won't be throwing out accusations of anything. Beyond that, I don't care what anybody else says about you. I'm not interested.No matter what form of disapproval fans elected to take, they would still face accusations of racism.
What happened to tolerance and freedom of expression ?True. That is something you need to put to the club or the players. If the knee is still taken and there still is booing at that point the booers are creating the flashpoint though.
You're quite right. The players are expressing their support for a campaign against all forms of discrimination and a tiny minority are being intolerant by booing their own players and implicitly saying discrimination is acceptable.What happened to tolerance and freedom of expression ?
Twist it any want you want wiz, we’re were discussing a fan telling us he won’t be tolerant. wether you like it or not we are all entitled to our own opinions and expressions, even if it upsets someone.You're quite right. The players are expressing their support for a campaign against all forms of discrimination and a tiny minority are being intolerant by booing their own players and implicitly saying discrimination is acceptable.
So fans being intolerant of players is ok then? Not twisting it, that's exactly what the booing is.Twist it any want you want wiz, we’re were discussing a fan telling us he won’t be tolerant. wether you like it or not we are all entitled to our own opinions and expressions, even if it upsets someone.
So we’re in agreement. Players can take the knee and fans can boo the players. Both using freedom of expression.So fans being intolerant of players is ok then? Not twisting it, that's exactly what the booing is.
And throwing bananas.Presumably Scaramanga would consider monkey noises as mere freedom of expression too.
Correct, what is the difficulty in trying to understand why some people don't trust BLM motives and stick with our own "Kick It Out" campaign., a campaign that was welcomed by everyone. What is the attraction in copying the Yanks?The last two replies are absolutely pathetic. I expect that type of response from CAT, but I’m afraid you have fallen there wiz. If any of you can point to a racist post from with actual racism I will hold my hand up. But I guarantee you won’t.
You seem to have a problem understanding the concept of freedom of expression. You are free to express yourself by booing and I'm free to point out that I don't want to hear some treacherous ** disrespecting my team. I've been watching Blackpool long enough to have witnessed many occasions where the boo-boys started up and the proper fans have stood up and had a go at them for booing the team. That is what will happen here.What happened to tolerance and freedom of expression ?
You are wrong I dont Under estimate the freedom of expression. I personally wouldn’t boo, I would turn my back. But I wouldn’t disrespect the freedom of expression. You think the boo boys are booing your team/players, they wouldn’t be. Don’t think that your some sort of uber fan as you are blind to the nonsense that’s going on. You miss the point I’m afraid.that’s your choice.You seem to have a problem understanding the concept of freedom of expression. You are free to express yourself by booing and I'm free to point out that I don't want to hear some treacherous ** disrespecting my team. I've been watching Blackpool long enough to have witnessed many occasions where the boo-boys started up and the proper fans have stood up and had a go at them for booing the team. That is what will happen here.
Freedom of expression is the freedom to speak, not the freedom to speak unchallenged.
If your back was turned, no problem for me, I’ll be on one’s kneeYou are wrong I dont Under estimate the freedom of expression. I personally wouldn’t boo, I would turn my back. But I wouldn’t disrespect the freedom of expression. You think the boo boys are booing your team/players, they wouldn’t be. Don’t think that your some sort of uber fan as you are blind to the nonsense that’s going on. You miss the point I’m afraid.that’s your choice.
Good job as Spirit will be swingingIf your back was turned, no problem for me, I’ll be on one’s knee
At PNEGood job as Spirit will be swinging
I've never liked hearing our players being booed whatever the reason or however crap they have been. If you want to turn your back or mutter under your breath about how Kick it Out is better, Marxism and rioting then feel free. I'm bored with the issue now anyway if anything it is an example of US culture taking over but if our players want to take a knee I'm happy to sit there for an extra 10 seconds while they make their point.You are wrong I dont Under estimate the freedom of expression. I personally wouldn’t boo, I would turn my back. But I wouldn’t disrespect the freedom of expression. You think the boo boys are booing your team/players, they wouldn’t be. Don’t think that your some sort of uber fan as you are blind to the nonsense that’s going on. You miss the point I’m afraid.that’s your choice.
You seem to have a problem understanding the concept of freedom of expression. You are free to express yourself by booing and I'm free to point out that I don't want to hear some treacherous ** disrespecting my team. I've been watching Blackpool long enough to have witnessed many occasions where the boo-boys started up and the proper fans have stood up and had a go at them for booing the team. That is what will happen here.
Freedom of expression is the freedom to speak, not the freedom to speak unchallenged.
The Blackpool players kneel, some boo at that, but they're not booing the Blackpool players? I genuinely don't get that. If I'm a Blackpool player I'm being booed for kneeling.You are wrong I dont Under estimate the freedom of expression. I personally wouldn’t boo, I would turn my back. But I wouldn’t disrespect the freedom of expression. You think the boo boys are booing your team/players, they wouldn’t be. Don’t think that your some sort of uber fan as you are blind to the nonsense that’s going on. You miss the point I’m afraid.that’s your choice.
Well you wouldn’t would you.The Blackpool players kneel, some boo at that, but they're not booing the Blackpool players? I genuinely don't get that. If I'm a Blackpool player I'm being booed for kneeling.
And if I were a player I wouldn't either.Well you wouldn’t would you.
Someone who turns up on matchday to support their side. You don't do that by booing the players before they've kicked a ball.What is a proper fan?
Any examples of proper fans had a go at the boo-boys? Are you talking one or two fans or a biggish group?
Another dickhead who is too thick to differentiate between ‘BLM the organisation’ and ‘BLM the ideal’.I see that Lyle Taylor (Nottingham Forest) is refusing to take the knee and spoken out against the BLM movement.
Mixed it with low prices and B&MAnother dickhead who is too thick to differentiate between ‘BLM the organisation’ and ‘BLM the ideal’.
And probably looking at the wrong BLM hashtag anyway.
A brave Lyle Taylor (Nottingham Forest) is refusing to take the knee to the BLM movement.