Take a chance on Evatt.

The_Busted_Flush

The_Busted_Flush

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Really starting to think we might be missing out on a brilliant manager in Evatt due to a lack of confidence, faith and foresight.

A young manager that has taken a bottom six side to a side with a seven point lead at the top of their division. Plays incredibly attractive football, compared to Barcelona. Comes across level-headed and intelligent in interviews. Has a love for the club. Surely we have to take a chance on him?

For anybody that hasn't watched the latest Tifo Football analysis video:
 
I'm torn between he could possibly need more time and experience, and to hell with it, he's working miracles up there, would jump at the chance of coming back here and would 100% unite the fans.

What worries me is that the fans that want him won't take to Jones (or anyone else) and they'll get on his back as soon as things aren't going exactly to plan because they wanted Evatt.
 
I agree! I read the same article on the Athletic a few days ago and was sold.

Whilst I'm certainly not in the anti-Jones brigade and would be happy enough if he got the job, from what I've read about what Evo has done at Barrow, it really does sound like he could be a star manager in the making. If he carries on the trajectory he's been on we may miss out on our best chance to get him.

Let's face it Jones would really have to s**t the bed for him to be potted within 18 months and if Barrow storms L2 then Evo really will be hot property especially with the style and resources he's done it with.

At the end of the day its the old adage if your good enough your old enough, and I see enough evidence already to suggest he could have something a bit special going on.

There's no question what Jones did with Luton was spectacular and to be honest, at first, I gave him the edge of Evo, but having delved into his time at Stoke that puts as big if not a bigger question mark over his head than Evo's supposed lack of experience at this level. Also I'm not sure if I'm liking some of Jones supposed personality traits but that's just hearsay, but no smoke without fire, etc.

At the end of the day good football and great training methods translate to all levels and by the sounds of it, Evo is onto a winner.

Evo for me, Jones a fairly distant second.
 
I have watched Barrow a few times this season. They are good to watch, get the ball down on the floor and play. Use some width. What I like about them is their willingness to take risk. You will see lots of little flicks and players willing to take a man on. I like Barrow it would be a great shame for them to lose him. Promotion back to the league has been almost 50 years and under Evatt it seems certain. Quiggly looks good in the conference.
 
Pool_Attendant said:
I agree! I read the same article on the Athletic a few days ago and was sold.

Whilst I'm certainly not in the anti-Jones brigade and would be happy enough if he got the job, from what I've read about what Evo has done at Barrow, it really does sound like he could be a star manager in the making. If he carries on the trajectory he's been on we may miss out on our best chance to get him.

Let's face it Jones would really have to s**t the bed for him to be potted within 18 months and if Barrow storms L2 then Evo really will be hot property especially with the style and resources he's done it with.

At the end of the day its the old adage if your good enough your old enough, and I see enough evidence already to suggest he could have something a bit special going on.

There's no question what Jones did with Luton was spectacular and to be honest, at first, I gave him the edge of Evo, but having delved into his time at Stoke that puts as big if not a bigger question mark over his head than Evo's supposed lack of experience at this level. Also I'm not sure if I'm liking some of Jones supposed personality traits but that's just hearsay, but no smoke without fire, etc.

At the end of the day good football and great training methods translate to all levels and by the sounds of it, Evo is onto a winner.

Evo for me, Jones a fairly distant second.
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Resounding agreement. I’ll be disappointed if we don’t take a chance on him.
 
We don’t need a divided fan base on a manager. If it doesn’t happen for a Jones instantly the crowd will quickly turn against him, Evo will have more slack, not saying that’s right but it could happen. We need an appointment to lift us all and I think Evo is streets ahead in that
 
hertfordseasider said:
We don’t need a divided fan base on a manager. If it doesn’t happen for a Jones instantly the crowd will quickly turn against him, Evo will have more slack, not saying that’s right but it could happen. We need an appointment to lift us all and I think Evo is streets ahead in that
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I honestly think that there is a portion of our fan base who, unless Jones comes in and makes a huge difference, will never take to him and will be itching to get on his back. The more they are pandered to, the worse the situation will get.

Letting the tail wag the dog is never gonna end well.
 
Regarding Evatts lack of experience, bollox to it , I am happy to give him a chance but he has to be fully backed from the off. I was however, firmly in the Jones camp, so either Evo or Jones would do for me . Unfortunately we don’t have any inside information as to who the owner and the board might have in mind, he may throw us a curveball and appoint someone who we thought would never be on the radar. We will find out soon enough though .
 
Hmmmm, very good.
He's basically taken the Holloway psychology making them believe they can do anything they want.
He's also doing exactly what Holloway did when he came to Blackpool (favourites to go down, next to nothing for players etc)
What happens when the magic/feel good factor wares off?
Do we give him time when, invariably, we hit a bad run.
Will he have the know how how to deal with those situations?

How many times have people said there's such and such playing at non league, hes knocking in goals for fun, for him to move to a league club and then he can't hit a camel's backside with a shovel!!

Sometimes it does work out and I suspect Simon Sadler will be watching the situation very closely. I wonder that if the manager wasn't Evo and Joe Bloggs who no one had heard of, would there be such a clamour for us to have him as manager.

Anyway, whoever SS decides to appoint I'm sure itll be for the best of the club. We've gone through another period of turmoil, admittedly not as bad as with the Oystons but as fans we should all get behind the team and manager whoever that may be until the end of the season to see where it gets us # UTMP
 
What I like is the way he seems confident to talk, to explain exactly what his tactics are, and back them to still win.

A lot of managers will just mumble clichés or not really bother to explain what they are thinking but Evo seems open and able to communicate.

I honestly don't understand what experience he needs. He's done brilliantly at Barrow in a league that is arguably harder to get out of than ours and played football in it, when it's arguably harder to do than league 1.

He's also achieved all this with an absolute shoestring staff.

To me, that seems like fantastic experience.

What is the magic thing he needs to know about league one? The grounds are bigger, the players are a bit better? They get paid a bit more? He knows all that, he played a lot of league one/championship football.

Don't get me wrong, I'll give Jones 100% but I agree Evo seems as though he might have something and now seems as good a time to find out as any...
 
We're in an unimaginable position, for us as Blackpool fans, to know we now have a board who will be trying to bring in the best person available, not the cheapest and/or most desperate.

We also know whoever comes in will be backed in the transfer market and will have a proper coaching set up.

All we've ever known is a succession of managers who have had one arm tied behind their back AND had the rug pulled from under them.

Maybe that should be remembered if the fans I mentioned above don't get the appointment they want.
 
Wizzerboy said:
Hmmmm, very good.
He's basically taken the Holloway psychology making them believe they can do anything they want.
He's also doing exactly what Holloway did when he came to Blackpool (favourites to go down, next to nothing for players etc)
What happens when the magic/feel good factor wares off?
Do we give him time when, invariably, we hit a bad run.
Will he have the know how how to deal with those situations?

How many times have people said there's such and such playing at non league, hes knocking in goals for fun, for him to move to a league club and then he can't hit a camel's backside with a shovel!!

Sometimes it does work out and I suspect Simon Sadler will be watching the situation very closely. I wonder that if the manager wasn't Evo and Joe Bloggs who no one had heard of, would there be such a clamour for us to have him as manager.

Anyway, whoever SS decides to appoint I'm sure itll be for the best of the club. We've gone through another period of turmoil, admittedly not as bad as with the Oystons but as fans we should all get behind the team and manager whoever that may be until the end of the season to see where it gets us # UTMP
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Of course we wouldn't be arsed if it wasn't Evo! Who would bother watching football at all if we had to be rational about it?
 
td53 said:
What I like is the way he seems confident to talk, to explain exactly what his tactics are, and back them to still win.

A lot of managers will just mumble clichés or not really bother to explain what they are thinking but Evo seems open and able to communicate.

I honestly don't understand what experience he needs. He's done brilliantly at Barrow in a league that is arguably harder to get out of than ours and played football in it, when it's arguably harder to do than league 1.

He's also achieved all this with an absolute shoestring staff.

To me, that seems like fantastic experience.

What is the magic thing he needs to know about league one? The grounds are bigger, the players are a bit better? They get paid a bit more? He knows all that, he played a lot of league one/championship football.

Don't get me wrong, I'll give Jones 100% but I agree Evo seems as though he might have something and now seems as good a time to find out as any...
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Haha, completely agree. Especially the “mumble clichés” bit, think I might have an idea of who you’re referring to.
 
Evatt just seems to be the man. Hes using ollie and more so Guardiola tactics but is more grounded than ollie.

This is why we need him here.

Video sums it up that style here and we could really go somewhere. That style would excite people the most.
 
I wonder that if the manager wasn't Evo and Joe Bloggs who no one had heard of, would there be such a clamour for us to have him as manager?

probably not....but I think the clamour is building because we already know he is a natural born winner and a hell of a committed man with the right instincts about football (and the Oystons). And he is showing he can set up and build a team to play in a recognised methodical attacking way that get results.

With the Players he will have from the off here it could only take half a season for him to drill us into Blackpoolona.
 
clappers said:
I wonder that if the manager wasn't Evo and Joe Bloggs who no one had heard of, would there be such a clamour for us to have him as manager?
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There wouldn't be from a significant portion of the fans, definitely the ones that want Evatt as manager, Thommo as first team coach, Adam as player coach, GTF as forwards coach and Southern in the building..... just because.

These are the fans I worry about influencing the board in to making decisions now and in the future.
 
The_Busted_Flush said:
Really starting to think we might be missing out on a brilliant manager in Evatt due to a lack of confidence, faith and foresight.

A young manager that has taken a bottom six side to a side with a seven point lead at the top of their division. Plays incredibly attractive football, compared to Barcelona. Comes across level-headed and intelligent in interviews. Has a love for the club. Surely we have to take a chance on him?

For anybody that hasn't watched the latest Tifo Football analysis video:
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Can I ask if there is anywhere other than on your silly sign that Barrow are being compared with Barcelona ? They both begin with B I suppose.
 
SEASIDE2020 said:
Can I ask if there is anywhere other than on your silly sign that Barrow are being compared with Barcelona ? They both begin with B I suppose.
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“Silly sign” ??? They are being compared to Barcelona in terms of style of play in the video, with especial mention to Pep Guardiola. Of course they’re being facetious calling them “Barrowcelona”, it’s just a joke.
 
The_Busted_Flush said:
“Silly sign” ??? They are being compared to Barcelona in terms of style of play in the video, with especial mention to Pep Guardiola. Of course they’re being facetious calling them “Barrowcelona”, it’s just a joke.
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Of course it's a joke Busted but if we are seriously discussing the merits of IE as our next manager then I don't think Barcelona come in to it.
 
SEASIDE2020 said:
Of course it's a joke Busted but if we are seriously discussing the merits of IE as our next manager then I don't think Barcelona come in to it.
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I think you’re being a bit pedantic. I was just making a point about their reported style of play. I’m not expecting Sadler to walk into the board room and phone him up on the basis that Tifo Football called his side Barrowcelona. I’m just making the Barcelona point because it’s interesting and positive.
 
What if they bring in Duncan Ferguson or Sergio Lobera? Will the fans not give them a chance?

I trust Simon Sadler, Ben Mansford, and Brett Gerrity to get it right this time.
 
Grumpy_no_more said:
What if they bring in Duncan Ferguson or Sergio Lobera? Will the fans not give them a chance?

I trust Simon Sadler, Ben Mansford, and Brett Gerrity to get it right this time.
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I can imagine the fans being very, very sceptical of a guy who is highly rated in Indian football.

And tbh, I wouldn't blame them.
 
Will Simon Sadler take the gamble and keep D. Dunn in until the end of season, knowing that he has made a deal with Evatt?
Worth thinking about.
 
Interesting report. Evatt undoubtedly doing well at Barrow, better than I thought. My impression of him has certainly gone up after viewing that. I would hope he is one being considered for the job. I would agree, worth taking a chance. Should see Barrow get promoted first.
 
Isn't it great to be looking realistically at managers with good reputations, and thinking that these managers will likely be looking at Blackpool as a good club to go to. Good managers being interested in the Blackpool job - never thought I'd ever see the day!

Let's be honest with ourselves, whether you're leaning towards Evatt or Jones, either has the potential to be a fantastic appointment. Not least because of the squad they'll be inheriting.

The next few years are going to be really exciting for us, I absolutely believe that. UTMP!
 
Davepick said:
Will Simon Sadler take the gamble and keep D. Dunn in until the end of season, knowing that he has made a deal with Evatt?
Worth thinking about.
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Definitely it should be an option, especially if Jones rejects us.

The season has all but gone, so no point making a hasty appointment for the sake of it. I get why the board wants Jones and if he's their man, I'm totally on board with it (with a few reservations), but if he doesn't fancy the job for whatever reason the board should pull out all the stops for Evatt and do whatever it takes to get him. If that means waiting and giving it Dunny till the end of the season so be it.
 
Evo was the on-the-pitch driving force of the Ollie philosophy so no doubt his own team's style will reflect that. I'd love to see some more of that. I remember never being bothered if we conceded a goal because we knew we would just pile forward and get one back. You could even enjoy the games you lost because of the number of chances and goals you had seen. I think it's what we need.
 
Dunny looked like somebody struggling to make it to the weekend in that presser thing. We might need to replace him as caretaker!
 
I think it was JJ above who said 'Ollie without the ego' or something like that.

Again, people keep saying he lacks experience but I like the bit about coaching in the video.

I want us to be a good side, I want us to produce players, I want us to be somewhere that gives kids ago and surely, if he can turn conference players into total footballers, he can do two key things

1) unlock more gifted player to play the same way
2) have a significant impact on young players.

I think the latter has really been missing - we have to produce players as well as just buy them and as we've seemingly got a scouting set up and facilities on the way, I'd love to see someone in for the long haul who has the skills to produce players.

I'm not saying that's definitely Evo but if we're not going to scour the world for an unknown genius he seems as good a fit as any.
 
If it didn’t work out for him how long before fans would be slagging him off and his past heroics as a player forgotten about?
 
End of day it’s about creating confidence and team spirit and I reckon Evo would do that
The rest is just complicating a simple game
 
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