Supporters club

Whitesidefy2

Whitesidefy2

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Sorry if I have missed something , but seen on the bst survey that we’re getting a supporters club . Is this gonna be ran by the club or fans and where is it gonna be ?
 
Whitesidefy2 said:
Sorry if I have missed something , but seen on the bst survey that we’re getting a supporters club . Is this gonna be ran by the club or fans and where is it gonna be ?
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A good idea if its independent and it can be registered with the Football Supporters Association on the same level as BST and even BSA.
Leyland and Chorley,YS and BASIL are only permitted to be associate members.
 
Every credit to them , it’s something that’s needed . Last season I was trying all the pubs and areas pre match and settled for the no 10 in the end . But this is what is needed
 
Who owns the coach station across from the north west corner always thought that it should be used on match days and would of been a good location for fans
 
It'll be great to have a Blackpool Supporters Club again. I've always missed the original one.
 
Is it just me or should all these groups be amalgamated into one big supports group?
 
TKL_Seasider said:
Is there a plan for using it on the 340 days a year when BFC aren't playing at home?
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Would like to see the many other clubs' supporters groups involved in a season long quiz. Must be half a dozen at least and then you've Preston and Fleetwood with maybe AFC.
Some good rivalries could be formed and it would be good fun
 
Rektseasider said:
Is it just me or should all these groups be amalgamated into one big supports group?
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Many members of different Blackpool fan groups don't want all the groups amalgamated into one because they like the integrity of their own identity. Quite a few fans though, are members of more than one group already. PROVIDING ALL SEPERATE GROUPS REMAIN AS THEY ARE, I don't see any problems with the secretaries of all groups getting together and ALSO creating one massive list of fans under the title of 'SEASIDERS FANS OF THE MIGHTY POOL,' or with a better thought out title for us.
 
Henshman said:
Many members of different Blackpool fan groups don't want all the groups amalgamated into one because they like the integrity of their own identity. Quite a few fans though, are members of more than one group already. PROVIDING ALL SEPERATE GROUPS REMAIN AS THEY ARE, I don't see any problems with the secretaries of all groups getting together and ALSO creating one massive list of fans under the title of 'SEASIDERS FANS OF THE MIGHTY POOL,' or with a better thought out title for us.
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Although there would need to be a consent method for data sharing. We can't just issue out personal information.
 
Henshman said:
Many members of different Blackpool fan groups don't want all the groups amalgamated into one because they like the integrity of their own identity. Quite a few fans though, are members of more than one group already. PROVIDING ALL SEPERATE GROUPS REMAIN AS THEY ARE, I don't see any problems with the secretaries of all groups getting together and ALSO creating one massive list of fans under the title of 'SEASIDERS FANS OF THE MIGHTY POOL,' or with a better thought out title for us.
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That’s fair enough, I’m not attacking any group or person.

If they all want to stay independent good for them, I’m a silent member of BST. I joined because I thought it might take over as THE fans group, agin no problem with a variety of groups.

It just seems to me that there’s not much point in having various supports groups outside of BST beyond a social meet up for mates.
Again if that’s what people want to do, go for it.

Imagine though if we all amalgamated under one banner, the leaders of the various groups would have more sway if there was a top table committee they were on.

It would make an Oyston era (as unlikely as that seems now) far more unlikely in the future.
 
Wizaard said:
Not really. The group with the clout is BST with a national profile.
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With a bit of luck the clout that the BST umbrella group has will be diminished, and all the football authorities will be listening to ALL the fans.
If the FSA wont allow the Yorkshire Seasiders,Leyland and Chorley etc to become affiliates then it needs shutting down in my view.

**All fans should be careful about passing on your contact details to BST, just to make sure these arent passed onto the FSA who have previously refused to give guarantees on this. Personally I think they've abused this in the past and targeted fans who wont 'dance to the tune' so beware.
 
Aren’t some people getting a bit confused here? By Supporters Club I think they mean a physical club where you can go in for a drink etc. Rather than a Supporters Club as per Leyland and Chorley Seasiders who are a group of fans who rally round a flag to form a Social Group who organise to travel together to watch matches and will buy blocks of tickets to sit together.

So a Club as in an establishment rather than a cohort (cos its a posh word I’ve heard being used a lot lately)!
 
Bottle said:
Aren’t some people getting a bit confused here? By Supporters Club I think they mean a physical club where you can go in for a drink etc. Rather than a Supporters Club as per Leyland and Chorley Seasiders who are a group of fans who rally round a flag to form a Social Group who organise to travel together to watch matches and will buy blocks of tickets to sit together.

So a Club as in an establishment rather than a cohort (cos its a posh word I’ve heard being used a lot lately)!
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Thats what I thought it meant ! i.e. A bar/club for fans to gather. If it isn't why ask the question 'when would you use it' ?
 
Plumbs said:
With a bit of luck the clout that the BST umbrella group has will be diminished, and all the football authorities will be listening to ALL the fans.
If the FSA wont allow the Yorkshire Seasiders,Leyland and Chorley etc to become affiliates then it needs shutting down in my view.

**All fans should be careful about passing on your contact details to BST, just to make sure these arent passed onto the FSA who have previously refused to give guarantees on this. Personally I think they've abused this in the past and targeted fans who wont 'dance to the tune' so beware.
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The suggestion that BST would pass on individual information without permission is a serious allegation. If you have any evidence of such action, please contact us directly so that this can be investigated.

To be absolutely clear, we have never been asked for personal information of Blackpool supporters by the FSA or any other organisation and would not divulge such information if we were.

For clarity, affiliate members are groups with a democratic structure and constitution.
Associates are non democratically structured fans groups who can still participate but, like individual members, only have one vote as opposed to the 5 votes per affiliate group. All members, be they affiliates, associates or individual supporters, are valid and necessary.

Supporters' Trusts serve a very specific purpose and are governed far more strictly than other types of fan groups. They also have more "clout" when it comes to dealing with officials, clubs etc because of the way they are governed and monitored, their legal status and constitution. It is important to have different groups, with their own identities and purpose, but a Trust can be the umbrella organisation for all. It absolutely makes sense for fan groups of the same club to work together and a Trust can indeed be a powerful voice for ALL supporters.
 
From the FSA website:

Blackpool

  • Blackpool Association of Supporters In London (BASIL)
  • Blackpool Supporters’ Trust (Affiliate)
  • Yorkshire Seasiders (Associate)

And remember that groups need to contact the FSA. The Tangerine Knights for instance used to be associate members, but presumably they have let that lapse. Any supporters group can join as an associate and presumably both BASIL and YS are quite happy about it.
 
BlackpoolSupportersTrust said:
The suggestion that BST would pass on individual information without permission is a serious allegation.
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It is indeed but I havent said that.What I have said-to be clear-is that from my experience the Football Supporters Association (and some of its umbrella groups like Leeds Trust) cant be trusted with personal information and I am advising Blackpool fans to exercise caution.
One aspect of FSA governance has been to change group membership criteria as its suits and at times bypass usual democratic procedures to get in the people it wants.That included using the block vote at the EGM (merger of SD and FSF) to prevent groups like the Yorkshire Seasiders to have full voting rights.

From a Blackpool Supporters perspective that might involve groups and individual fans being excluded from things like the allocation of Wembley tickets, priority on away tickets,meetings with the club and now priority of fans coming back to BR; many of these issues have cropped up nationally and Trusts like Exeter have ruined things for their supporters-where there is no supervision of how Trusts operate. (apart from me making a nuisance of myself at Conference-smiley)

Like I've said many,many times BST are a fine example of how to run a Trust and deserve all the credit thats going,but the FSA are for me just a bunch of one agenda parasites who really dont deserve time of day.

No offence like
 
Plumbs said:
It is indeed but I havent said that.What I have said-to be clear-is that from my experience the Football Supporters Association (and some of its umbrella groups like Leeds Trust) cant be trusted with personal information and I am advising Blackpool fans to exercise caution.
One aspect of FSA governance has been to change group membership criteria as its suits and at times bypass usual democratic procedures to get in the people it wants.That included using the block vote at the EGM (merger of SD and FSF) to prevent groups like the Yorkshire Seasiders to have full voting rights.

From a Blackpool Supporters perspective that might involve groups and individual fans being excluded from things like the allocation of Wembley tickets, priority on away tickets,meetings with the club and now priority of fans coming back to BR; many of these issues have cropped up nationally and Trusts like Exeter have ruined things for their supporters-where there is no supervision of how Trusts operate. (apart from me making a nuisance of myself at Conference-smiley)

Like I've said many,many times BST are a fine example of how to run a Trust and deserve all the credit thats going,but the FSA are for me just a bunch of one agenda parasites who really dont deserve time of day.

No offence like
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FSA was like that before the merger though, there were associate and affiliate members with the same rules as BST said above. All that appears to have happened is that has carried on as before?
 
Plumbs said:
It is indeed but I havent said that.What I have said-to be clear-is that from my experience the Football Supporters Association (and some of its umbrella groups like Leeds Trust) cant be trusted with personal information and I am advising Blackpool fans to exercise caution.
One aspect of FSA governance has been to change group membership criteria as its suits and at times bypass usual democratic procedures to get in the people it wants.That included using the block vote at the EGM (merger of SD and FSF) to prevent groups like the Yorkshire Seasiders to have full voting rights.

From a Blackpool Supporters perspective that might involve groups and individual fans being excluded from things like the allocation of Wembley tickets, priority on away tickets,meetings with the club and now priority of fans coming back to BR; many of these issues have cropped up nationally and Trusts like Exeter have ruined things for their supporters-where there is no supervision of how Trusts operate. (apart from me making a nuisance of myself at Conference-smiley)

Like I've said many,many times BST are a fine example of how to run a Trust and deserve all the credit thats going,but the FSA are for me just a bunch of one agenda parasites who really dont deserve time of day.

No offence like
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To be fair Plumbs your post suggests the risk lies with BST not other trusts

BST were right to challenge that
 
TwelveAngryMen said:
To be fair Plumbs your post suggests the risk lies with BST not other trusts

BST were right to challenge that
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No problem anybody challenging anything but the issue for me is with the FSA and the way they operate,and that was the point I am making. All groups have to abide by the rules of association where the FSA use email addresses to claim (to the FA etc) that they are largely representative. At one point they stuck a figure on their website until I challenged that and Clarkey and the boys dropped it.

Regarding affiliate/associate this was changed at the EGM two years ago where they then stopped me and others from attending the Network meetings held periodically in London.
To re-iterate again I wouldn't trust (npi) the FSA with any personal details and would hope all individual Trusts dont bow to any pressure from the National Council to hand any over.
 
Pictures look great 👍 I see they have had planning refused for a media screen to go on side of wall that is knackered... can't see the issue really, hopefully they will win appeal.

Just hope it is financially sustainable... it is looking good.. great work
 
TangerineArmy said:
Pictures look great 👍 I see they have had planning refused for a media screen to go on side of wall that is knackered... can't see the issue really, hopefully they will win appeal.

Just hope it is financially sustainable... it is looking good.. great work
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It needs support when it opens. A brave initiative that I hope is well supported by all fans.
 
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