Agree about Madine. I don't think he's a great player but he is key to how we play. And there's no one else like him in our squad. Edit to add - I wouldn't be too worried about a bid coming in for him though. He's just key tothe way we play and getting te best out of some of our other players.
You seem to have a very closed mind Voy.Madine key player?
I bloody give up.
Spoken by a master!
When does this machine burst into action?
Imagine if we actually lost him. Like we stopped at the services and then when Critch counted them at the ground he wasn't there?
The results don’t lie, since he’s been playing they’ve improved.
So you acknowledge that it is a key role. I've already said there's better out there [many times] but for now he's the key player in the way we are playing. And until January at least we don't have an alternative.
Stop gap, til we find someone more mobile and better in front of goal.So you’ve written him off partially then
Not his biggest fan but said at beginning of season he could be a good plan B if willing to take the battering ram role on and work for the team, he’s done that for the last few games for sure, lack of goals a worry though
It will be hard to move Madine on because of his mad high wages, the result of a mid-season panic buy. I'm sure you agree. It's amazing how a couple of pokey wins change people from moaning about the Madine signing to him becoming a key player in about a week.
We won’t bring someone in unless we can sell Madine and his wages will make that very unlikely .... unless he becomes a goal machine in the next few weeks. It’s the salary cap. I agree He’s absolutely as good as we will get as a troublesome frontman and as Critch says he is looking for developing not developed players. There is no replacement going to come in and keep results going. So Big Gary will stay in the side doing what he does best..causing trouble and letting Kaikai bag a few.
There are quite a few strikers in L1 that are more effective in my view. The League One top scorers table is one source of evidence. Matthew Lund at Rochdale on 5 goals, for example. I can see what you people see in him but I think you are exaggerating it cos we have beaten Burton and Wigan.. If we lose a few games against better sides the debate will no doubt swing back my way. If we keep improving, it won't. But I think Critch is committed to a more mobile front line and I think Madine will lose his place unless he improves, personally. He's not very mobile and he doesn't score goals. Pretty big drawbacks in my view. Roughing up defenders can be a help of sorts but, at the end of the day, we are not a pub team. No end product, which apparently condemns some forwards but not others. Selective appraisal.
Don't understand much of that tbh! I agree he will be hard to sell. Wonder why that might be?
If Maxwell was injured there is the possibility of an emergency loan. Gillingham have signed Lumley from QPR on that basis. Simms or Fotofit might have to get their hands accidentally (on purpose) trapped in a car door or something but I'm sure it could be "arranged".
It’s the salary cap. He’s on wages that predate the salary cap so not likely to be matched anywhere else. Not that difficult but I’ve edited to include!There are quite a few strikers in L1 that are more effective in my view. The League One top scorers table is one source of evidence. Matthew Lund at Rochdale on 5 goals, for example. I can see what you people see in him but I think you are exaggerating it cos we have beaten Burton and Wigan.. If we lose a few games against better sides the debate will no doubt swing back my way. If we keep improving, it won't. But I think Critch is committed to a more mobile front line and I think Madine will lose his place unless he improves, personally. He's not very mobile and he doesn't score goals. Pretty big drawbacks in my view. Roughing up defenders can be a help of sorts but, at the end of the day, we are not a pub team. No end product, which apparently condemns some forwards but not others. Selective appraisal.
Don't understand much of that tbh! I agree he will be hard to sell. Wonder why that might be?
I think you folks are just blowing around in the wind, a couple of wins and everything is great and Madine wasn't a waste of money godawful Grayson signing after all after all, he's a key player. I don't think so, longer term.
Voy thinks the suns shines out of CJ's arse though. He thinks he's a no 9 who'll get all these goals for us despite his record to date being at best a goal in every eight games. A player who on tuesday night showed he doesn't have the composure to be a goalscorer of any note.
That nasty tone is back.
nothing nasty about it. It's just pointing out facts. I'm not sure anyone on here has said Madine is the answer long term so you are deflecting again. The question was who is the key player in the team at the moment.
Well why come out with objectionable crap like that then? I don't think the sun shines out of CJ's arse or that he is a number 9 ( you are just making shit up) - I simply object to your scathing comments about him. Especially in the light of your support for for no-end-product Madine. Hypocrisy, no? He has fewer goals than CJ playing wide, and Lund playing in midfield. CJ hads caused a lot of teams problems this season, they have doubled up on him every game. No such worry with Madine, I think.
More baloney. I've never claimed Madine is a striker and nor do I think he is. He's not a natural goalscorer and never will be. He does a specific job in a team and at this point in time it's one we need. And I think Neil Warnock paid 6 mill for him to do that at Cardiff. He's a target man who plays most of the game with his back to goal. His end product is to bring other players into the game by winning the ball and laying it off to them. He's working for the TEAM. You make a nonsense criticism earlier too. Madine is never and has never been a mobile player. It's just not his game. And I tend to think most teams play with two centre halves. Do you want them both to be stood right next to him?
You talk some bollocks 20s. Ridiculed us for winning? That's a hell of a spin.
I've made those comments on CJ loads of times before.
He has spells if doing nothing and then a better spell. I think Madine has made the difference, doing the dirty work, enabling Kaikai and others to find the spaces to do the damage.
