Blackpool v Ipswich Official Matchday Thread 10.10.20

[voyeur]

They are ..and show me when we have played with a left footed left midfield player under NC

They aren't. We've only had a handful of games under NC. You're lack of flexibility of thought is hampering you. And being dogmatic doesn't make things true. We can play two of the three in the current system no problem. The third could happen, if we adapt the system. Or if Garbutt, who you think is a left back, turns out to be a good midfielder. I suspect he will start out as a left back for us, but will he stay there? I suspect not.

 

[Recidivist3]

A view from the Tractor Boys forum


Following the cancellation of Town's home game with Charlton Athletic we wasted little time in arranging a trip to Blackpool FC who also had their intended game cancelled. There is Two trains of thought here, the first that it is good to keep the continuity going while we are doing well and the second is that with a fair few injuries still hampering Lambert and co. that maybe a free weekend would have been the preferred option, personally I am in the former, we need to play games, Blackpool are struggling a little results wise and we are doing the reverse so while nothing is certain it would appear the correct decision to go ahead with the fixture even though we look like being without the likes of Ward, Downes, KVY, Norwood, Drinan etc etc but as we saw on Tuesday it gives others the opportunity to come in and seize their chance.

Blackpool find themselves Fourth bottom with a solitary win and Three defeats to date, their win coming against Swindon Town while one of the teams to beat them were none other than Gillingham which hopefully augers well for us after Tuesday evenings success. The Tangerines were a bit unlucky last time out falling to a late comeback by high flying Lincoln after having been ahead so again they are not to be under estimated.

Town will find themselves coming up against a certain Luke Garbutt who needs no introduction and who will be fired up for it, what we must not do is give away careless Free Kicks around our box because that is the One area where he can and probably will hurt us, although on the flip side he does have issues defensively so depending on where he plays it could work either for us or against us.

I think this could well be a tricky game as they were quietly fancied prior to the big kick off, last season we went there and really should have won it but it was another game that we grabbed defeat from the jaws of victory in so hopefully this time we turn our performance into points. I can see this ending all square but we don't want to see the same town turn up that struggled in the second half against MK Dons, that would only end one way, if we are on our game there is no reason why we cannott get another away win, however I will stick with a low scoring draw on this occasion.

 

[Phil_bfc deux]

They aren't. We've only had a handful of games under NC. You're lack of flexibility of thought is hampering you. And being dogmatic doesn't make things true. We can play two of the three in the current system no problem. The third could happen, if we adapt the system. Or if Garbutt, who you think is a left back, turns out to be a good midfielder. I suspect he will start out as a left back for us, but will he stay there? I suspect not.

But we don't play with a left midfield

We play 433

With a right footed forward on the left of a front 3

So where on earth are you suggesting we accommodate 3 left backs

Your not playing 12 a side are you?

 

[LA1 Seasider]

But we don't play with a left midfield

We play 433

With a right footed forward on the left of a front 3

So where on earth are you suggesting we accommodate 3 left backs

Your not playing 12 a side are you?

Football is all about being adaptable and Critchley certainly plays with a fluid style. Overlapping full backs, interchanging midfielders and players switching positions is how the modern game is played.
Garbutt could play anywhere on the left and could easily play on the left of a midfield 3. Mitchell has proven himself capable of playing LB, LWB, LM and LW and Husband is a very capable CB as well as LB and LWB.
Our attacking problems in the the first few games seems to stem from a lack of midfielders stepping forward and supporting / contributing to the attack so playing a winger (who could also support with any defensive duties) actually makes a lot of sense. Could give Yates that bit more freedom and release him from being a creator and allow him to be a finisher for once.

 

[BlackpoolsFinest]

If the system we're playing requires someone playing the number 10 role, with no number 9 (hence why we seemed to play better with Sarkic used there) then there is absolutely no place in this team under the current set up for Madine.

When this team is firing, which it may well do given time, the goals will come from the left and right of the front three, such is football nowadays: Mane & Salah, Rashford, Aubameyang, Mbappe etc.

What Critch is trying to do is emulate successful modern day teams and move away from the outdated 442.

I'm not sure that Yates is the player to fill the number 10 role, but what I do know is that we don't currently employ a number 9.

 

[voyeur]

If the system we're playing requires someone playing the number 10 role, with no number 9 (hence why we seemed to play better with Sarkic used there) then there is absolutely no place in this team under the current set up for Madine.

When this team is firing, which it may well do given time, the goals will come from the left and right of the front three, such is football nowadays: Mane & Salah, Rashford, Aubameyang, Mbappe etc.

What Critch is trying to do is emulate successful modern day teams and move away from the outdated 442.

I'm not sure that Yates is the player to fill the number 10 role, but what I do know is that we don't currently employ a number 9.

Did you read this... ?!

Rashford and Aubameyang tell truth about Liverpool's Firmino problem

Roberto Firmino scored just once at Anfield in the Premier League last season and is yet to find the back of the net home or away in the 2020/21 campaign

www.liverpoolecho.co.uk

 

[Phil_bfc deux]

Football is all about being adaptable and Critchley certainly plays with a fluid style. Overlapping full backs, interchanging midfielders and players switching positions is how the modern game is played.
Garbutt could play anywhere on the left and could easily play on the left of a midfield 3. Mitchell has proven himself capable of playing LB, LWB, LM and LW and Husband is a very capable CB as well as LB and LWB.
Our attacking problems in the the first few games seems to stem from a lack of midfielders stepping forward and supporting / contributing to the attack so playing a winger (who could also support with any defensive duties) actually makes a lot of sense. Could give Yates that bit more freedom and release him from being a creator and allow him to be a finisher for once.

I don't want players playing out of position

Garbutt isn't a central midfield player and thats what you are suggesting and NC certainly won't change to a 442

So we basically have 3 players fighting for one position, I'm fine with that but please dont suggest we can accommodate 3 left backs in the system that NC plays

For the avoidance of doubt

NC plays 433 with inverted forwards

So there is no space in that line up for a left mid or a left wing with a left foot

Its hard enough getting results as it is without more square pegs in round holes

 

[tangerine_neil]

I’d be more confident if we had Ballard & Viking available. Will wait until I see the starting line up. Even then this new defence will need some time to get familiar. No pre season for them, thrown straight into competitive league action.
I’m predicting both teams will score.

 

[td53]

The point is surely that simply trying to play a formation is not the one and only purpose of a manager. Yes, give him time to make what he wants to do work, but at the same time, there's a pragmatic reality. He's had 16 or so new players and Madine is the only striker aside from Yates in the squad. Therefore, you've literally got no choice but to try and include Madine. I don't get why we can ONLY ever play 4-3-3 and I also think Madine is a perfectly capable fulcrum of an attack that relies on wide players cutting inside. I'm not saying he's 'the answer' but I don't get why he wouldn't be part of a range of answers we'd need during the season.

Also, we haven't played 4-4-2 for ages.

 

[BlackpoolsFinest]

Did you read this... ?!

Rashford and Aubameyang tell truth about Liverpool's Firmino problem

Roberto Firmino scored just once at Anfield in the Premier League last season and is yet to find the back of the net home or away in the 2020/21 campaign

www.liverpoolecho.co.uk

I listen to Williams' podcast, the way he breaks down games and player & team performances is fascinating. They provide a real insight in to what is actually happening in a game beyond what can be seen at face value.
There was a lot of guffawing on here when GTF compared what Sarkic was doing on Tuesday to what Firminho does for Liverpool, but that article (and podcast) confirms what Fletch said to be bang on.
I'd hazard a guess that virtually none of the players we now have are used to (yet) playing in the system Critch is trying to adopt, which is why it is laughable that people are writing him and the team off after 4 league games.
How long did it take Klopp at Liverpool, Pep at City?
This thing needs patience and will pay dividends eventually, but it is going to take a lot longer than a handful of games.

Did you see Fleetwood won last night and went from the bottom 3 to the top 7...... showing just how utterly ludicrous it is to be throwing in the towel at this point of the season before the players have even managed to gel.

 

[td53]

Further to that, Sarkic did make us look a bit more cohesive against Accy in the first half but the lad is never fit! Sullay is the other player I could imagine playing as a deeper more skillful forward but he's also never fit and I'm not sure Critch fancies him there. I can't see Bez or Kemp doing it and it would be a waste of CJ who is the one element of the forward line firing.

So if the goal machine has no place, who the hell does play up front. It leaves Yates and Yates and Yates and Yates. I like Yates, but I don't think we're using him to his potential.

I'm going to be pissed off if the limit of Critchley's coaching is to 'copy Liverpool at all costs' - I think he's more intelligent than that and I'd expect one of Europe's top 16 most qualified coaches to be able to coach more than one formation and also adapt to the needs of the squad which I'm sure he's capable of. He hasn't got Jurgen above him dictating how the ressies must play to fit in with the first team - he can choose whatever combination of players in whatever formation he and Mike decide will suit the players best.

Idealism mixed with pragmatism. There comes a point when 'new players' isn't the answer. Using the ones you've got properly is.

 

[tango94]

Right so you want players to play out of position
.bizarre...

Jeezers ..what ever happened to bit of light hearted football banter.
What IS bizarre is you wanting to confine all three of them to play LB for their entire careers.
However you seem to see yourself as devil's advocate par excellence so crack on.

 

[BlackpoolsFinest]

The point is surely that simply trying to play a formation is not the one and only purpose of a manager. Yes, give him time to make what he wants to do work, but at the same time, there's a pragmatic reality. He's had 16 or so new players and Madine is the only striker aside from Yates in the squad. Therefore, you've literally got no choice but to try and include Madine. I don't get why we can ONLY ever play 4-3-3 and I also think Madine is a perfectly capable fulcrum of an attack that relies on wide players cutting inside. I'm not saying he's 'the answer' but I don't get why he wouldn't be part of a range of answers we'd need during the season.

Also, we haven't played 4-4-2 for ages.

If you're trying to introduce a system of play, you don't then change it to implement a player who not only most likely isn't good enough, but is simply the only other striker on the books.

No one wanted Madine anywhere near the starting XI at the end of last season, because he looked like he couldn't be arsed or hit a cows arse with a banjo.
Now he deserves a chance to start?
Football fans are a fickle bunch.

 

[BlackpoolsFinest]

Further to that, Sarkic did make us look a bit more cohesive against Accy in the first half but the lad is never fit! Sullay is the other player I could imagine playing as a deeper more skillful forward but he's also never fit and I'm not sure Critch fancies him there. I can't see Bez or Kemp doing it and it would be a waste of CJ who is the one element of the forward line firing.

So if the goal machine has no place, who the hell does play up front. It leaves Yates and Yates and Yates and Yates. I like Yates, but I don't think we're using him to his potential.

I'm going to be pissed off if the limit of Critchley's coaching is to 'copy Liverpool at all costs' - I think he's more intelligent than that and I'd expect one of Europe's top 16 most qualified coaches to be able to coach more than one formation and also adapt to the needs of the squad which I'm sure he's capable of. He hasn't got Jurgen above him dictating how the ressies must play to fit in with the first team - he can choose whatever combination of players in whatever formation he and Mike decide will suit the players best.

Idealism mixed with pragmatism. There comes a point when 'new players' isn't the answer. Using the ones you've got properly is.

It's not just copying Liverpool, many of the top sides in Europe use different variations of this. I'm sure Critch has his own wrinkles he is trying to implement.
My main point though is give the system he is trying to use time to work before changing it.

 

[Big_Flag_Man]

Gillingham 1 up against Oxford

 

[voyeur]

Madine isn't the right sort of player for the way we are playing, he isn't very good, and he doesn't look particularly interested either. I hope he proves me wrong. As far as varying the system goes, I agree, it's important to change things. But we are struggling to master one system, it will take time to develop an adaptable approach, surely.

 

[Big_Flag_Man]

Gills 2 up now

 

[td53]

If you're trying to introduce a system of play, you don't then change it to implement a player who not only most likely isn't good enough, but is simply the only other striker on the books.

No one wanted Madine anywhere near the starting XI at the end of last season, because he looked like he couldn't be arsed or hit a cows arse with a banjo.
Now he deserves a chance to start?
Football fans are a fickle bunch.

But we had Super Gnands banging them in... (and the Nutt in the squad fwiw) - also if you can find a post I've made last year saying 'Madine is shit' then well, I don't remember making it. I said he looked disinterested in pre season, but that's the only time I've slagged him off, cos, frankly, he did.

You're not answering the point about why can we ONLY play 4-4-3? Since time immemorial teams have adjusted to suit circumstances. I recently read a book about the 1888 season and even then (long before subs) teams adjusted things a bit. I'm perfectly happy to give the fella time to put his ideas in place. I'm paying him a compliment in a way, by saying I think he's probably capable of putting more than one idea in place.

It just seems to be undervaluing what the role of a manager is to say 'He's playing 4-4-3 so we have to play it every minute of every game' - I also don't get why we're not allowed to constructively critique what he's doing or why observing that in his (very) limited game time in competitive acton this year, Madine has actually looked pretty good is wrong or that we never threatened Gillingham so much as when we switched away from 4-4-3 (the only time I think we've had) for ten minutes.

I'm absolutely a romantic who wants to see attractive football played to a plan. But I've also watched enough football to know if you've got a player who can mix it up a bit, that's a strong card to play as well and just as valid. Footballers should be able to cope with a swap of formation sometimes mid game.

 

[29DaysLate]

For me, we should see this as the first game of the season.
This is now the basis of our team, and we build from here.
COYP

 

[20togo]

I can honestly say that i've not seen enough of these players yet to jump to any rash conclusions. Apart from the fact Yates ain't a no 9, a target man or a player who should be playing down the middle. If he's got goals in him which it seems he may have then it just be from operating out wide.
I hope the above is thrown back in my face today.

 

[BlackpoolsFinest]

I did answer your question, I said we need to give the current system a chance to work before changing it.
The players are still trying to master what Critch is asking of them, i don't see the point of throwing in the towel on this after 4 league games, especially when one of them was a victory and 2 were decided by individual error brain farts in the opening minutes which changed the flow of the rest of those games.

I'm sure Monday to Friday Critch is working on this and maybe even tweaking things to pull it all together, but this is a work in progress, and it must be afforded a bit more than 3 league defeats before tearing it up and trying something else.

Re Madine, the general feeling was that he was crap, I didn't mean to single out you specifically.

Edit to add: I agree something isn't working, I've said previously that Yates doesn't seem to fit the role he is being asked to play. I actually have more concerns with the midfield than the front 3, where we seem to be carrying a player who isn't contributing. This is what I feel Critch will be working on, I certainly hope he is; Ward has been a passenger too often this season and needs to either get involved more or someone else needs to be given a chance.

 

[Alf]

I think he will go for Thorniley, as the psychological factor of Notts just out the door should get the best out of him. If he is still a passenger tonight then I don’t really see a path forward for him.

 

[20togo]

Madine isn't the right sort of player for the way we are playing, he isn't very good, and he doesn't look particularly interested either. I hope he proves me wrong. As far as varying the system goes, I agree, it's important to change things. But we are struggling to master one system, it will take time to develop an adaptable approach, surely.

I disagree. Generally Yates is playing in a role with his back to goal. He's dropping a bit deeper and players are hitting the ball into his feet or up to his head where he's expected to take the ball and bring other [wide] players into the game. That is a role that Madine plays. What Madine doesn't do is put the effort in that Yates does.

 

[LA1 Seasider]

I don't want players playing out of position

Garbutt isn't a central midfield player and thats what you are suggesting and NC certainly won't change to a 442

So we basically have 3 players fighting for one position, I'm fine with that but please dont suggest we can accommodate 3 left backs in the system that NC plays

For the avoidance of doubt

NC plays 433 with inverted forwards

So there is no space in that line up for a left mid or a left wing with a left foot

Its hard enough getting results as it is without more square pegs in round holes

You only seem to be able to see a traditional 4-4-2 on a chalk board.
4-3-3 allows a lot of flexibility. I’m not for one second suggesting Garbutt plays as a central midfielder and sits within the centre circle. I’m suggesting he plays in the middle of the park (between the defenders and forwards) and to the left of centre - which would play to his strengths.

 

[td53]

Madine isn't the right sort of player for the way we are playing, he isn't very good, and he doesn't look particularly interested either. I hope he proves me wrong. As far as varying the system goes, I agree, it's important to change things. But we are struggling to master one system, it will take time to develop an adaptable approach, surely.

I don't agree on two counts. Madine is clearly a decent footballer on some levels. He's not right as our week in and week out striker, if we're playing the high press, no. But seemingly Yates isn't quite right either. I really like Yates, but his successes in his career have come in a slightly different role and I'm not condemning him or his style of play, just noting that it seems logical to try him where he's had success at some point or other. Why not? What do you lose? Especially if it's in a game you are already losing.

Is football that hard that players who play it every day and have done since they were kids can't cope with moving a bit on the pitch on 65 minutes if they're losing?

In my opinion - no. I used to do it with my mates or the school team.

I have no problem with starting with 4-3-3 and starting with his signings and his preferred tactics. That's the right thing to do - but I fail to understand why trying a different sort of player or an adjusted approach during the match is a problem if our main tactics aren't working.

I fully expect the Goal Machine to move on when his contract is expired and that's fine - replace him with someone who fits. But whilst he's here, he's too good to just completely ignore if there aren't other options and frankly, there aren't other options right now.

 

[td53]

I can honestly say that i've not seen enough of these players yet to jump to any rash conclusions. Apart from the fact Yates ain't a no 9, a target man or a player who should be playing down the middle. If he's got goals in him which it seems he may have then it just be from operating out wide.
I hope the above is thrown back in my face today.

Well said. I also hope the same! (me and ye in agreement shocker!!! ;-))

 

[GrahamwantshisOates]

Gills 2 up now

Looking at the halftime stats, Oxford have fell into the same trap as us!

 

[voyeur]

Ok fellas, happy to disagree, I just don't think Yates or Madine fits the system we seem to be trying to play. Madine obviously so. I also think he falls short in other ways, like desire. I think the recruitment team got Yates wrong. I suspect we will sign someone. Critch keeps trying Sarkic in there, then his injury resurfaces. But it tells you something about the thinking surely.

 

[Phil_bfc deux]

You only seem to be able to see a traditional 4-4-2 on a chalk board.
4-3-3 allows a lot of flexibility. I’m not for one second suggesting Garbutt plays as a central midfielder and sits within the centre circle. I’m suggesting he plays in the middle of the park (between the defenders and forwards) and to the left of centre - which would play to his strengths.

Ha ha hes a left back or left wing back

Have you actually seen him play?

 

[20togo]

changing topic, I'm looking forward to watching it on Ifollow but I love to watch Stelling too and see the goals coming in. I just hope I see the goals on Ifollow before they come thru on SSN.

 

[td53]

I did answer your question, I said we need to give the current system a chance to work before changing it.
The players are still trying to master what Critch is asking of them, i don't see the point of throwing in the towel on this after 4 league games, especially when one of them was a victory and 2 were decided by individual error brain farts in the opening minutes which changed the flow of the rest of those games.

I'm sure Monday to Friday Critch is working on this and maybe even tweaking things to pull it all together, but this is a work in progress, and it must be afforded a bit more than 3 league defeats before tearing it up and trying something else.

Re Madine, the general feeling was that he was crap, I didn't mean to single out you specifically.

Edit to add: I agree something isn't working, I've said previously that Yates doesn't seem to fit the role he is being asked to play. I actually have more concerns with the midfield than the front 3, where we seem to be carrying a player who isn't contributing. This is what I feel Critch will be working on, I certainly hope he is; Ward has been a passenger too often this season and needs to either get involved more or someone else needs to be given a chance.

I'm not arguing to change the system or what he's trying to do. I'm saying on the evidence of two brief sub appearances recently, Madine had a positive impact, linked well with team mates and contributed to the side playing better and gives us flexibility to adjust to circumstance. It would be mental to throw all the work he's done in the bin, but I don't think switching things up mid game if circumstances require is doing that - it's just part of the game. Coleman changed it half time with Accy who have less 'talented' players than us and then again with a sub and gradually they took the game back from us as a result.

Against Swindon Madine replaced a tiring Yates and looked good, against Gillingham he was part of the last 10 minutes where we actually caused them problems we've failed to do all game.

That doesn't seem like he's incapable of playing with the team at all. In fact, it seems he's got something to offer on the basis of those two brief showings.

I agree on Ward. I'm not convinced by Williams but he's not really had a chance to convince me in anger to be fair to him. I like Ward but that role is not getting the best out of him at all. I'd be tempted to bring in Virtue or Williams and move Robson into a more attacking role. I think that could have more bite and I think Robson looks good when he goes forward and playing at six he doesn't really do that. I'm not sure Williams or Virtue have the passing range to be great at 6.

 

[Phil_bfc deux]

I disagree. Generally Yates is playing in a role with his back to goal. He's dropping a bit deeper and players are hitting the ball into his feet or up to his head where he's expected to take the ball and bring other [wide] players into the game. That is a role that Madine plays. What Madine doesn't do is put the effort in that Yates does.

Bang on that

Yates scored a dozen goals last season playing as a wide left forward cutting in

Why we are playing him down the middle god only knows when we have an experienced striker in Madine sat on his arse

 

[LA1 Seasider]

The point is surely that simply trying to play a formation is not the one and only purpose of a manager. Yes, give him time to make what he wants to do work, but at the same time, there's a pragmatic reality. He's had 16 or so new players and Madine is the only striker aside from Yates in the squad. Therefore, you've literally got no choice but to try and include Madine. I don't get why we can ONLY ever play 4-3-3 and I also think Madine is a perfectly capable fulcrum of an attack that relies on wide players cutting inside. I'm not saying he's 'the answer' but I don't get why he wouldn't be part of a range of answers we'd need during the season.

Also, we haven't played 4-4-2 for ages.

I think Madine could be the ideal fulcrum too - unfortunately I don't think he has the 'pressing' element to his game that Critchley want's. He certainly doesn't seem the player to chase down central defenders and force a mistake if he was that player and had the pace and stamina to do what Yates has been doing then he simply wouldn't be back playing at this level.

I think Madine is a great player - he has the intelligence and physique to be a real handful and he's obviously pretty handy when it comes to finishing things off too - I think he's going to be best employed off of the bench playing against tiring defenders and using his physicality to provide spaces for whoever's playing the on the Right and Left flank. I think with some more attacking midfielders marauding forward to play off of him too - he'd be in his absolute element. Unfortunately we've not seen this in any of our games yet - except maybe against Swindon when he came on.

Hopefully he gets chance to play his game today at some point. I do worry though that he's having quite a few injuries and wonder if maybe that makes him even less suitable for the high tempo game we're looking to play and maybe even put's him off from playing the physical style he's most suited to playing. If thats the case then we're not getting even half the player he has the potential to be.

 

[td53]

Anyway, I'm predicting 28-0 win to the mighty.

 

[BlackpoolsFinest]

 

[voyeur]

Madine starts!

TEAM: Maxwell, Gabriel, Turton, Ekpiteta, Garbutt, Robson, Ward, Anderson, Hamilton, Yates, Madine

 

[LA1 Seasider]

Ha ha hes a left back or left wing back

Have you actually seen him play?

Do you actually follow football ? Because you generally seem clueless.

 

[TheOldKop]

Interesting

 

[Leither]

4-0 win to leap frog the Cods

 

[glasshalffull]

Madine and Yates to start!

PS harsh on Mitchell after his goal last week. Turton at CB?

 

[LA1 Seasider]

Turton playing at Centre Back ?

 

[SeasideKurt]

Don't like Turton ahead of an actual CB.

But I like the idea of Madine Yates and CJ up top

 

[20togo]

Who's the other centre half alongside Ekpiteta? mmmmm!

 

[Insider]

Interesting having Turton at CB against the big lad up front for the Tractor Boys.

 

[td53]

IN YOUR FACE ALL YOU CRITCH DOUBTERS WHO THOUGHT HIM INCAPABLE OF PRAGMATISM AND WEDDED TO HIS BEAUTIFUL PHILOSOPHY.

(he's literally just read this thread and shouted 'actually, Gary, get your kit on lad, Yatesy, on the left Phil, 20s and td53 have spoken)

** hell - turton at centre back tho...

 

[TwelveAngryMen]

Don't like Turton ahead of an actual CB.

But I like the idea of Madine Yates and CJ up top

Agree

Critch must really not rate Thorniley

 

[BlackpoolsFinest]

We may now end up playing more direct in the Madine and abandon the press.

We'll see.

 

[SeasideKurt]

Who's the other centre half alongside Ekpiteta? mmmmm!

Turton.

 

[td53]

It's almost certain that Madine will have a mare as I've argued he should play lol

 

[LA1 Seasider]

IN YOUR FACE ALL YOU CRITCH DOUBTERS WHO THOUGHT HIM INCAPABLE OF PRAGMATISM AND WEDDED TO HIS BEAUTIFUL PHILOSOPHY.

(he's literally just read this thread and shouted 'actually, Gary, get your kit on lad, Phil and td53 have spoken)

** hell - turton at centre back tho...

TBF to Turton...he's calm, strongest defensively and very very consistent. He lacks the physical presence of a usual CB but so does Husband and he did very well...