Another Brexit success

According to Miz-Trust in last nights TV debate, she's facilitated dozens of trade deals recently.

Source: The Alas in Blunderland News Agency
 
TSSeasider said:
It is, but the alternative was to ignore the democratic decision of the population and the cost of that would be massively higher.
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What the bigoted racist morons in the North and Midlands want is the most important.

£108 billion is nothing. It might just pay for 1 nurse for a few months.
 
I see it's transpired that the reason some of the French border staff failed to turn up to man the booths at Dover was because they themselves were stuck in the traffic queues and couldn't get to the port!!!

I must admit, if there is one good thing about Brexit that I benefit from, it's the amount of Schadenfreude laughing it provides me.
 
BigHandsOliverKahn said:
I see it's transpired that the reason some of the French border staff failed to turn up to man the booths at Dover was because they themselves were stuck in the traffic queues and couldn't get to the port!!!

I must admit, if there is one good thing about Brexit that I benefit from, it's the amount of Schadenfreude laughing it provides me.
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There's a piece on the news about the perishable food and drink for a big party at Rees-Mogg Towers being stuck in the queues. £50,000 wasted.

Such a shame.
 
Here is another great example of Brexiticity... the importation of alcohol, specifically wine, from Europe has become so complex that it costs one small supplier about £150k per year in broker fees and admin. There are only 4 or 5 major hauliers prepared to ship across the Channel now and brokers charge £400 to process a single shipment; transportation costs are on top.
www.theguardian.com

British wine wholesaler to leave UK over post-Brexit paperwork

Daniel Lambert, who supplies M&S, Waitrose and 300 independent retailers, to set up in France after £150,000 hole in revenue
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TSSeasider said:
It is, but the alternative was to ignore the democratic decision of the population and the cost of that would be massively higher.
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I wonder why, during the Brexit referendum campaign, we never saw Johnson, Gove or Farage campaign under the slogan, "A £2bn red tape bill for the self-regulation of the chemicals industry will be better than ignoring the democratic will of the tiny majority we'll probably get to leave the EU."

Not catchy enough I suppose. Better to go with splashing lies about NHS funding along the side of our campaign bus and scaring the gullible that hordes of immigrants from Turkey are heading our way.
 
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Archibald Knox said:
Here is another great example of Brexiticity... the importation of alcohol, specifically wine, from Europe has become so complex that it costs one small supplier about £150k per year in broker fees and admin. There are only 4 or 5 major hauliers prepared to ship across the Channel now and brokers charge £400 to process a single shipment; transportation costs are on top.
www.theguardian.com

British wine wholesaler to leave UK over post-Brexit paperwork

Daniel Lambert, who supplies M&S, Waitrose and 300 independent retailers, to set up in France after £150,000 hole in revenue
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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Funny how we never hear stories about this when it comes to Australian, South African and other new world wines.

Oh well, if the French don't want to sell us their wine, I'm sure others will be happy to step up to the plate.
 
Wizaard said:
Yet another Brexit bonus. Proof needed of £85 spends per person per day in Spain.

Luckily we live in a high wage economy country...

metro.co.uk

Families may have to prove they've got £6,000 in their bank for holiday in Spain

It comes amid growing concerns around Brexit's impact on travel.
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Yet you'd be ridiculing the idea if it was proposed by this Gov't for our overseas visitors. You can't have it both ways.There again, you think you can as and when it suits.
 
Archibald Knox said:
Here is another great example of Brexiticity... the importation of alcohol, specifically wine, from Europe has become so complex that it costs one small supplier about £150k per year in broker fees and admin. There are only 4 or 5 major hauliers prepared to ship across the Channel now and brokers charge £400 to process a single shipment; transportation costs are on top.
www.theguardian.com

British wine wholesaler to leave UK over post-Brexit paperwork

Daniel Lambert, who supplies M&S, Waitrose and 300 independent retailers, to set up in France after £150,000 hole in revenue
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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Good job uk produced wine is winning plaudits around the world then
 
1966_and_all_that said:
You can debate semantics till you're blue in the face. Corbynism got us trounced in 2019 and you can't save the country from the class-warrior Tories unless you're in office. Get into office first then tailor your policies. That woman wants to wake up and see that. But no, she's a loud-mouthed, Corbynite, trouble-making militant.
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For once, but only this once, I agree with you 1966. You have to be in office to make a difference. All Corbyn did was shout from the sidelines in opposition and it achieved nothing apart from a hammering at the polls
But.......if you lean to the left I can see where she (and Lytham) is coming from.
Do you sell your soul and principles to gain power? Like Blair did and Starmer is trying to do, and drag Labour to the centre ground. Or keep your soul and principles and remain in opposition like Corbyn did?
I sincerely hope this is the one and only time I agree with you 1966 😉
 
RUSTY_2_STANDS said:
For once, but only this once, I agree with you 1966. You have to be in office to make a difference. All Corbyn did was shout from the sidelines in opposition and it achieved nothing apart from a hammering at the polls
But.......if you lean to the left I can see where she (and Lytham) is coming from.
Do you sell your soul and principles to gain power? Like Blair did and Starmer is trying to do, and drag Labour to the centre ground. Or keep your soul and principles and remain in opposition like Corbyn did?
I sincerely hope this is the one and only time I agree with you 1966 😉
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It’s simple, KS will win the GE with soft left policies and then the real Labour Party, the hard left, will oust him and take over.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
You've called Corbyn fit to burst many times on here, yet you come on now trying to score cheap petty points against Keir Starmer whilst he's being verbally assaulted by a Corbynite. Your shallow opportunism shows you up for the sharlatan that you are.
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That's very unfair.

As the acting Secretary General of The World Charlatans Society I ask you to withdraw that comment immediately otherwise legal action will be taken.

We've tolerated numerous insults over the years, but comparing us with that lunatic Scaremonger is going too far!
 
1966_and_all_that said:
You've called Corbyn fit to burst many times on here, yet you come on now trying to score cheap petty points against Keir Starmer whilst he's being verbally assaulted by a Corbynite. Your shallow opportunism shows you up for the sharlatan that you are.
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PAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA its Charlatan, and for what its worth i couldn't give a flying fuck about the rotten stupid woman giving him ear ache or her fucked up politics. And don't even go there with the cheap petty point scoring, you are an absolute masters of it on here, own it. Anyway take a deep breath as it seems its touched a nerve. 😂 😂
 
RUSTY_2_STANDS said:
For once, but only this once, I agree with you 1966. You have to be in office to make a difference. All Corbyn did was shout from the sidelines in opposition and it achieved nothing apart from a hammering at the polls
But.......if you lean to the left I can see where she (and Lytham) is coming from.
Do you sell your soul and principles to gain power? Like Blair did and Starmer is trying to do, and drag Labour to the centre ground. Or keep your soul and principles and remain in opposition like Corbyn did?
I sincerely hope this is the one and only time I agree with you 1966 😉
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I'm a huge fan of Blackpool FC Rusty. What about you? 😉
Anyway, Blair in office spoke to the right in order to keep The Sun and the Mail onside but largely legislated to the left. Leave aside his foreign policy and I agreed with a lot of what he did - with the exception of the PFI, arms-reach banking regulation, public-private partnerships, not reversing Thatcherite anti-union legislation and scrapping the 10p tax rate.
 
Scaramanga said:
PAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA its Charlatan, and for what its worth i couldn't give a flying fuck about the rotten stupid woman giving him ear ache or her fucked up politics. And don't even go there with the cheap petty point scoring, you are an absolute masters of it on here, own it. Anyway take a deep breath as it seems its touched a nerve. 😂 😂
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Correct about charlatan. I own up to getting that wrong because I believe in good spelling and grammar. If you couldn't give a flying worst though, why post what you did? The lady doth protest too much methinks.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
You can debate semantics till you're blue in the face. Corbynism got us trounced in 2019 and you can't save the country from the class-warrior Tories unless you're in office. Get into office first then tailor your policies. That woman wants to wake up and see that. But no, she's a loud-mouthed, Corbynite, trouble-making militant.
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Except in the meantime the people striking for better conditions and pay have no support from the opposition, a Labour opposition.

Oh and I don't think she was particularly 'Corbynista', just a fairly typical older Labour member, maybe you thinking she was extreme shows how far the party has lost it's roots.
 
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1966_and_all_that said:
I'm a huge fan of Blackpool FC Rusty. What about you? 😉
Anyway, Blair in office spoke to the right in order to keep The Sun and the Mail onside but largely legislated to the left. Leave aside his foreign policy and I agreed with a lot of what he did - with the exception of the PFI, arms-reach banking regulation, public-private partnerships, not reversing Thatcherite anti-union legislation and scrapping the 10p tax rate.
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Yes of course I love BFC. So I suppose that's two things we agree on 😫
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
Except in the meantime the people striking for better conditions and pay have no support from the opposition, a Labour opposition.

Oh and I don't think she was particularly 'Corbynista', just a fairly typical older Labour member, maybe you thinking she was extreme shows how far the party has lost it's roots.
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No, the Militant tendency (aka Momentum), have had their claws into the Merseyside Labour parties for a long time.

I agree that Labour should be more positive in their support of striking workers but the right wing narrative is in the ascendant at the moment so Starmer has to walk a fine line. I know it sounds vacillating but Labour has to get into office.
 
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1966_and_all_that said:
No, the Militant tendency (aka Momentum), have had their claws into the Merseyside Labour parties for a long time.

I agree that Labour should be more positive in their support of striking workers but the right wing narrative is in the ascendant at the moment do Starmer has to walk a fine line. I know it sounds vacillating but Labour has to get into office.
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Is selling out working? Their poll lead is still single figures, after one of most disastrous periods for a government in living memory, for comparison it was over 20% in 1997.

If Truss gets a bounce from borrowing heavily, which she 99% will, then calls a snap election, it won't be enough.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
Is selling out working? Their poll lead is still single figures, after one of most disastrous periods for a government in living memory, for comparison it was over 20% in 1997.
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Can't argue with that. It is relevant though, that post-Brexit the fault lines in British politics now cut 4 ways. It is also the case - and there's an economic, historical perspective here, that much of the world has been going through a populist phase over the last 10 years. This makes it harder for Labour to drag the narrative away from the Tories.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
Can't argue with that. It is relevant though, that post-Brexit the fault lines in British politics now cut 4 ways. It is also the case - and there's an economic, historical perspective here, that much of the world has been going through a populist phase over the last 10 years. This makes it harder for Labour to drag the narrative away from the Tories.
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Not really, just go the opposite way, populist doesn't always equate to right wing.

Failing that have an opinion on something, anything, have some policies, defend those being crushed by the cost of living for example.

Just ** do something.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
Correct about charlatan. I own up to getting that wrong because I believe in good spelling and grammar. If you couldn't give a flying worst though, why post what you did? The lady doth protest too much methinks.
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Because i found it very amusing, is that ok ? don't forget how many ridiculous threads we still have on here for all things Boris and Tory. I know you feel they are all justified. Just a taste of medicine
 
20togo said:
Yet you'd be ridiculing the idea if it was proposed by this Gov't for our overseas visitors. You can't have it both ways.There again, you think you can as and when it suits.
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It's purely a consequence of closed borders. It wasn't an issue when we were in the EU.

Fact.
 
Wizaard said:
It's purely a consequence of closed borders. It wasn't an issue when we were in the EU.

Fact.
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that doesn't address the point I was making. That is that if the UK Govt had done something similar you'd have been all over it like a rash wirh your criticism. But rather than choose to criticise Spain your default position is to criticise us. Fact.
 
20togo said:
that doesn't address the point I was making. That is that if the UK Govt had done something similar you'd have been all over it like a rash wirh your criticism. But rather than choose to criticise Spain your default position is to criticise us. Fact.
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Utter nonsense. You're making a wild assumption on what my reaction would be in a completely hypothetical situation, whereas I'm sticking to the fact that as a consequence of Brexit, a family of 4 will have to take a minimum of £4,750 with them on a fortnight's holiday. Good for Spain, not so good for people going through a cost of living crisis.
 
Wizaard said:
Utter nonsense. You're making a wild assumption on what my reaction would be in a completely hypothetical situation, whereas I'm sticking to the fact that as a consequence of Brexit, a family of 4 will have to take a minimum of £4,750 with them on a fortnight's holiday. Good for Spain, not so good for people going through a cost of living crisis.
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Nope, not a wild assumption or nonsense at all. As I said it's your default position. Deflect away but it's stating the obvious that you would be critical of it if our Govt did the same..
 
Wizaard said:
Utter nonsense. You're making a wild assumption on what my reaction would be in a completely hypothetical situation, whereas I'm sticking to the fact that as a consequence of Brexit, a family of 4 will have to take a minimum of £4,750 with them on a fortnight's holiday. Good for Spain, not so good for people going through a cost of living crisis.
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It's getting so frigging hard to get out of this country to go on holiday, there'll soon be families re-using abandoned dinghies on Dover beach to reach France.
 
Lost Seasider said:
Does Sir Keir have any policies? The only thing I know about his election strategy is he whines a lot because nobody baked him a cake.
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Here you go for starters. I wouldn't expect you to read it all...it's not even a Daily Mail headline. Still, you could break the habit of a lifetime.

labour.org.uk

Keir Starmer sets out Labour’s 5-point plan to Make Brexit Work - The Labour Party

Keir Starmer sets out Labour’s 5-point plan to Make Brexit Work Keir Starmer will use a speech at the Centre for European Reform (CER) on Monday to set out Labour’s 5-point plan to Make Brexit Work. The Labour leader will say that his plan will “deliver on the opportunities Britain has, sort out...
labour.org.uk labour.org.uk
 
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