Would you accept dull if it was succesful

PoolWarrior

PoolWarrior

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The 4th best league record (only 2 points off top spot) would indicate that Critchley has done something right this season. When I think back to away games there haven't been many we've been completely out-played and we've always had chances but failed to take them (Joseph's miss to kill off the game on Saturday is a case in point). Covert 7 of those 12 away defeats in to wins and we're automatically promoted.

My point is we're arguably not that far away - BUT - it will be dull to watch again. Would you sacrifice attacking, entertaining football for the occasional high of scoring goals and winning games which is dull as dishwater?
 
Nope... watched every game this season and only a few can u say were entertaining.... rest were dull.... players playing out of position... subs on 70ish mins... like for like subs (bar reading when we had to win and brought his mate virtue on). I would have loved to hear critchs team talk on sat, would there have been any passion? I suspect dull like post match and only bothered about stats!! (But not most important one... how many shots on target).

Only positive was having pleasure of seeing dembele in a pool shirt... even then critch was reluctant to play him 🤬
 
PoolWarrior said:
The 4th best league record (only 2 points off top spot) would indicate that Critchley has done something right this season. When I think back to away games there haven't been many we've been completely out-played and we've always had chances but failed to take them (Joseph's miss to kill off the game on Saturday is a case in point). Covert 7 of those 12 away defeats in to wins and we're automatically promoted.

My point is we're arguably not that far away - BUT - it will be dull to watch again. Would you sacrifice attacking, entertaining football for the occasional high of scoring goals and winning games which is dull as dishwater?
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Your 1st sentence must be regarding the home form surely?

And when you think back to away matches which were the ones where we wasn't outplayed?

The only away games where we looked anything like a play off side were Posh and Pompy.
How many times did we score more than 1 goal away this season in the league? 7 and they either drew or lost 3 of those.

As I commented in my thread Blackpool's season in numbers, the away form HAS to change as the home form will be difficult to replicate.

The away form can only be changed by playing free flowing attacking football, not tippy tappy round the back shite.

I won't accept dull NO
 
Nobody wants to lose but the older I get the more I just want to be entertained. Football should be a duel, a fight to the death. Skill, blood and guts. Drama, elation and despair. I don't see the point in spending time and money on a drab soulless afternoon or evening. I went to the Etihad for a game a few weeks ago and was bored rigid there too. And I blame him for it all, Guardiola! I think we might miss Klopp, who gave Pep a run for his money with a much much vigorous and exciting style of football. Did Critch learn nothing while he was there?!
 
In L1 you've got to be up for the weekly grind. Find different ways to win. Be savvy and strong. Cheat if you have to. Find a weakness in the opponent or match officials and exploit it. So consistency and the ability to adapt and overcome more than anything else for me.

Critchley's modern FA means-to-an-end method of coaching hasn't changed in terms of being a frustrating cure for insomnia where you can just skip the match and look at the result to save your time, money and effort. But what has been frustrating is just doing nothing to change anything in the games where we've just lost 1-0 or more with the one standard approach formation and tactics. Seems very quick to blame the players since he came back and it's come across a bit lazy to me. Not the guy who left when he was trying to show he had a trick about him. Maybe he's not had the right players but he put his name to most if not all of them. Where was his talked-up captain and leader at the weekend in the biggest game of the season? On the bench.
 
20togo said:
to a great extent for me winning is more important than entertainment. But failure to do either in order to achieve what we should be capable of in L1 is not acceptable.
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Once you get a winning habit the entertainment should follow, even if it's just because confidence is high and the instinct is to get goals (Arsenal under George Graham being the exception).
 
voyeur said:
Nobody wants to lose but the older I get the more I just want to be entertained. Football should be a duel, a fight to the death. Skill, blood and guts. Drama, elation and despair. I don't see the point in spending time and money on a drab soulless afternoon or evening. I went to the Etihad for a game a few weeks ago and was bored rigid there too. And I blame him for it all, Guardiola! I think we might miss Klopp, who gave Pep a run for his money with a much much vigorous and exciting style of football. Did Critch learn nothing while he was there?!
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Voy, I echo every sentiment and every word of that post.
I think you're bang on every point, especially about Guardiola. There are clearly fans who are only focussed on results. But you're right, we pay money and give up big chunks of time to watch a game that can give us everything we want, from passion to blood to despair. Because they're our tribe, our town, our team and we want it all.
(If people are only interested in results then cut out the game altogether. Pay your money, watch a penalty shootout and go home. Easy. No more queuing for the bog and no more Cractics. (Critch tactics)
 
PoolWarrior said:
The 4th best league record (only 2 points off top spot) would indicate that Critchley has done something right this season. When I think back to away games there haven't been many we've been completely out-played and we've always had chances but failed to take them (Joseph's miss to kill off the game on Saturday is a case in point). Covert 7 of those 12 away defeats in to wins and we're automatically promoted.

My point is we're arguably not that far away - BUT - it will be dull to watch again. Would you sacrifice attacking, entertaining football for the occasional high of scoring goals and winning games which is dull as dishwater?
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It might be an argument if we lost playing entertaining attacking football but we didn’t. We lost playing dire football most of the time so I can’t see any argument for doing the same thing again and expecting a different result.
 
On the podcast last night td53 talked about feeling glad the season was over and he could have a few weeks away from it, and compared that with feeling sad the season had ended when McMahon was here and we hadn't achieved anything.

I reckon that's a widespread feeling. As much as we want success, we can't expect promotion every season. We can expect to enjoy the football though, a lot if not all of the time. The aim of the club should be to provide excitement, I think.
 
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29Days Late said:
Voy, I echo every sentiment and every word of that post.
I think you're bang on every point, especially about Guardiola. There are clearly fans who are only focussed on results. But you're right, we pay money and give up big chunks of time to watch a game that can give us everything we want, from passion to blood to despair. Because they're our tribe, our town, our team and we want it all.
(If people are only interested in results then cut out the game altogether. Pay your money, watch a penalty shootout and go home. Easy. No more queuing for the bog and no more Cractics. (Critch tactics)
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frankly, i find it rather amusing that some consider City aren't entertaining. And they win games as well,
 
voyeur said:
On the podcast last night td53 talked about feeling glad the season was over and he could have a few weeks away from it, and compared that with feeling sad the season had ended when McMahon was here and we hadn't achieved anything.

I reckon that's a widespread feeling. As much as we want success, we can't expect promotion every season. We can expect to enjoy the football though, a lot of not all of the time. The aim of the club should be to provide excitement, I think.
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....and this season we've got neither promotion or a great deal of excitement/entertainment.
 
I’ll accept dull to get out of this poxy division and then dull again to consolidate championship football.After that I’d be looking to get back to some typical Blackpool football of two wide players and attacking football
 
TwelveAngryMen said:
The FA cup heroics of the underdog ? Cov this season for eg
The Brazil team from 1982?
Our season in the sun in 2010/11?
It's not all about winning
You can lose well
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but in barely a couple of years time, no -one pretty much outside of Coventry will remember they got to the semi finals. It's always easier to remember the winners than the runners up. Random moments in time of the odd exception don't count for much.

Of course it's preferable to lose when playing well rather than badly but this season as i think you'll agree we've been in a poor L1 and we've failed to achieve both in results and entertainment.
 
Only a handful of teams can 'win' each season
In 45 years of watch BFC we've been promoted seven times, never been champions and won a couple of LDVs
If ' winning ' is the only metric that's a lot of dull football to watch when statistically we 'win' one season out of five
 
20togo said:
....and this season we've got neither promotion or a great deal of excitement/entertainment.
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Absolutely. I think we'd all settle for one or the other, and understand that having both is a luxury.

But you can always set out out to entertain, even if you don't have the resources to succeed regularly.
 
I have said all season that he can get away with the dull boring football if we are winning but that style and not winning games will soon be deemed unacceptable…if it’s the same next season he won’t get long
 
Entertaining football and a great atmosphere is the most important thing to me.

That's why our season in the PL was fantastic because we had both despite being relegated. I remember Fulham away in particular - we got battered but the atmosphere in the away end was amazing.

This season the football has generally been dull and the atmosphere has been poor home and away . . with the odd exception like Bolton at home.

Obviously entertaining football, an electric atmosphere and 3 points every game is the ultimate goal but rarely happens.
 
Football is supposed to be a form of entertainment and given the cost to spectate, it should be paramount that the players and Club management do everything possible to provide excitement and interest every single week.
Watching defenders tapping the ball around sideways and backwards, creating few chances let alone scoring goals, waiting for the inevitable substitutes after 70 minutes and then somehow ragging a 1-0 win does not suddenly make it a good, entertaining game.
 
I go to the games as much for the atmosphere as the actual football.

The style of play and intent has to positive to get the crowd going so possession football in our own half is not for me.

Still can’t believe Critchley never once played a traditional back four this season.
 
20togo said:
frankly, i find it rather amusing that some consider City aren't entertaining. And they win games as well,
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I admire the talent they have, I enjoy seeing that level of ability. But I do think if get bored watching it regularly. I got bored with one game tbh. Other games may vary.
 
rememberlesshannon said:
Well we were winning and dull at home this season. The problem was we were even duller away from home and losing.
Our dull home form should have seen us cruise into the playoffs.
No shots on target away from home against Burton will be forever etched in my mind.
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Luckily I was away for that game.

Incredible really.

You would have thought even the Critchmeister would have thought I might have to change things here.
 
Seasider1953 said:
Yes, sport is all about winning , nobody remembers who comes second .
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Sincerely Seasider, and I'm not trying to be sarcastic in some clever roundabout way, I'd guess you do go to games and enjoy what you see. Ok it's better when we win. But I bet you remember some cracking games where you saw some brilliant football but we only managed a last minute equaliser. And enjoyed it.
If it's only about the result, why watch a game?
(Now I am trying to be clever (and friendly)), maybe nobody remembers who comes second, but I'll bet you know who came eighth this year. And it wasn't much fun was it?
 
Yes, is the simple answer. If that's what it takes to get us out of L1, it would be absolutely worth it. As long as there is a vision to play progressive, attacking football, I can cope in the short term.
 
I think I would too. Our goal is promotion and if dull 50% of the time gets us up then who cares? Dull teams rarely hit the heights for long and a change will be needed either in style or a change of manager.

Better to do that in the Championship.
 
Chunkylad said:
I’d accept full Tony Pullis to see us reach the Prem again and Lord it over the Nobbers.
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You might get that if we were a a real physical side but that will never happen with the Critchlmeister.

It’s like he thinks we are playing in the U21’s league and results don’t matter.
 
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