World Refugee Day.

catinstalbans

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A timely reminder that in a world crisis 79.5 million people across the world have been forced to flee their homes due to war or persecution due to race, religion or politics. This is the greatest number since official records began. The overwhelming majority live in camps close to their homeland in countries such as Bangladesh, Lebanon and Kenya often in conditions where the social distancing whether 1m or 2m is nigh on impossible and the basic hygiene conditions such as hand washing facilities are absent.
A tiny number seek refuge in the UK, usually because they have family or community connections.
Much has been made by many people that all lives matter. I'd like to think those sentiments were honestly held, at the very least here in the UK we should be acting in accordance with the international law we signed up to in 1951 and 1967.
This states that refugees have the right to housing, education and assistance, the right not to be punished for illegal entry into a country, the right to access the courts, and the right to freedom of movement.
In Glasgow this week refugees were attacked for protesting over housing rights, at Yarls Wood detention centre, there are multiple claims of sexual abuse, even Boris Johnson himself expressed surprise that refugees may have no recourse to public funds during lockdown, (of course he was then too lazy to actually do anything about it.). His Conservatives even voted down a previously agreed amendment to guarantee the rights of unaccompanied children to reunite with family members already residing in the UK.
We can not do everything to solve the refugee problem but we as a nation could ensure that humane standards are followed in our own land and if we do believe that all lives matter then we should support those organisations trying to ensure these standards (and legal requirements) are met.
 
So for at least 3 posters. Refugees lives don't matter.
Yesterday we had a great thread celebrating the achievements of Malala Yousafzai-who came to the UK as a refugee, shot for simply wanting an education. She adds far more value to whichever country she lives in than the posters attacking refugees above. I
Do you not think saying that most refuges s a freeloaders or criminals is just a bit racist?
 
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We have a great lockdown game in our house. Each person guesses in which line of Catinstalbans' posts the words' Boris Johnson' appear. I'm 185 in front at the moment. You earn a bonus point if you can't find those words but nobody has one yet.
 
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I never mentioned refugees Cat.

I did praise Police Scotland and you failed to endorse my praise.

Does that mean that you are of the opinion that "police lives don't matter" ?

Of course it doesn't and I am sure that you have nothing but respect for the police Cat.

With that in mind, I find it rather disappointing that so many "refugee supporters" - I don't know the official correct term - chose to converge on George Square today and put pressure on already stretched police resources when they were asked politely to stay at home.

Also disappointing to see the removal of wpc's post, he might not always choose the right words but let's not all pretend that the issues he highlighted are a figment of his imagination.

Why are you allowed to comment on refugees but wpc isn't ?


#blacklivesmatter
 
So for at least 3 posters. Refugees lives don't matter.
Yesterday we had a great thread celebrating the achievements of Malala Yousafzai-who came to the UK as a refugee, shot for simply wanting an education. She adds far more value to whichever country she lives in than the posters attacking refugees above. I
Do you not think saying that most refuges s a freeloaders or criminals is just a bit racist?
One of the best things that could happen in this country would be for the popular press to explain, honestly and without bias, to their readers, the significant difference between refugees and economic migrants.
I suspect that those papers with a particularly xenophobic right wing agenda are happy to conflate the two when it suits their anti-immigration message.
 
So for at least 3 posters. Refugees lives don't matter.
Yesterday we had a great thread celebrating the achievements of Malala Yousafzai-who came to the UK as a refugee, shot for simply wanting an education. She adds far more value to whichever country she lives in than the posters attacking refugees above. I
Do you not think saying that most refuges s a freeloaders or criminals is just a bit racist?
Oh come on Cat... your OP was fine and I agree with most of it BUT as usual you stick the knife in the Tory party FFS grow up!!
 
A timely reminder that in a world crisis 79.5 million people across the world have been forced to flee their homes due to war or persecution due to race, religion or politics. This is the greatest number since official records began. The overwhelming majority live in camps close to their homeland in countries such as Bangladesh, Lebanon and Kenya often in conditions where the social distancing whether 1m or 2m is nigh on impossible and the basic hygiene conditions such as hand washing facilities are absent.
A tiny number seek refuge in the UK, usually because they have family or community connections.
Much has been made by many people that all lives matter. I'd like to think those sentiments were honestly held, at the very least here in the UK we should be acting in accordance with the international law we signed up to in 1951 and 1967.
This states that refugees have the right to housing, education and assistance, the right not to be punished for illegal entry into a country, the right to access the courts, and the right to freedom of movement.
In Glasgow this week refugees were attacked for protesting over housing rights, at Yarls Wood detention centre, there are multiple claims of sexual abuse, even Boris Johnson himself expressed surprise that refugees may have no recourse to public funds during lockdown, (of course he was then too lazy to actually do anything about it.). His Conservatives even voted down a previously agreed amendment to guarantee the rights of unaccompanied children to reunite with family members already residing in the UK.
We can not do everything to solve the refugee problem but we as a nation could ensure that humane standards are followed in our own land and if we do believe that all lives matter then we should support those organisations trying to ensure these standards (and legal requirements) are met.
Bangladesh is next to India which has a bigger economy than we have?
Lebanon again is closer to Saudi Arabia than us which is an oil rich state with similar religious values as it’s state religion.
Surely they should both be assisting first Cat?

I know that’s not the caring line we should be taking, but we would not expect Arabia to take in the French if they came to strife, or expect China to take in the Irish if the blight returned?
However if they already have asylum here then yes they should be treated with dignity.
 
I never mentioned refugees Cat.

I did praise Police Scotland and you failed to endorse my praise.

Does that mean that you are of the opinion that "police lives don't matter" ?

Of course it doesn't and I am sure that you have nothing but respect for the police Cat.

With that in mind, I find it rather disappointing that so many "refugee supporters" - I don't know the official correct term - chose to converge on George Square today and put pressure on already stretched police resources when they were asked politely to stay at home.

Also disappointing to see the removal of wpc's post, he might not always choose the right words but let's not all pretend that the issues he highlighted are a figment of his imagination.

Why are you allowed to comment on refugees but wpc isn't ?


#blacklivesmatter
Because saying most are child molesters, rapists and criminals is patently untrue and will be the reason for removal.
 
Because saying most are child molesters, rapists and criminals is patently untrue and will be the reason for removal.

Wiz - You are a good man and I'm not going to argue about wpc's exact words.

My post that was deleted stated clearly that I felt that wpc doesn't always choose the correct words.

He raised the issue that there had been problems in countries when they have allowed large numbers of people of different cultures in, nobody can deny that these problems don't exist and they exist no matter how wpc chooses to word things.

I am not going to say any more on the matter, that is not to say I am right and you are wrong, it just won't get me anywhere.

I am going to go to the Ascot Tipping thread and see who won, I hope you - or anybody else - managed to catch Allez on the last day.
 
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