Wigan Athletic

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They seemed to have just picked up on the pitch as well! Undefeated in 9, won every game since the fixtures have returned

Would this mean a point deduction this season? Would put them right in the mix for relegation
 
As One says....12 point deduction straight away......Huddersfield fans must be happy.

And to think the Knobbers are discussing getting rid of Hemmings because he has no ambition.....🤔
 
TwelveAngryMen said:
I'll be surprised if we aren't in double figures by the end of the month

Short answer is players and other football staff are paid far too much
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I've been saying the same, I think players are going to get a rude awakening on contract renewals, and if DFD's suggestion that 60% pay cuts are being the norm, I still think young 20 somethings on over a grand a week is unsustainable
 
As mentioned on the other thread, that list of administrators looks a little familiar. 😀
 
That is a surprise, I expect a few clubs to suffer badly but I didn't expect Wigan to be the first. Hopefully they will be OK but I do wonder if there could be a few more go that way in the coming weeks.
 
Halifax71 said:
thought there was a timing issue with the deduction, e.g. after a certain date its held over to next season if it diesnt affect the outcome.
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No it would be this season, as Bournemouth waited until the 80th minute of their last game of the season, when they were to be relegated if they lost, but results went in their favour, so announced admin in the 80th minute, thus getting the points deduction the following season, the mighty EFL saw this and changed the rules..
 
Limechase said:
No it would be this season, as Bournemouth waited until the 80th minute of their last game of the season, when they were to be relegated if they lost, but results went in their favour, so announced admin in the 80th minute, thus getting the points deduction the following season, the mighty EFL saw this and changed the rules..
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Also depends in your a Bolton or a Bury.... same problem, different solution....

And Wigan could just say, they don't want to play the next game, as there appears to be no penalties for that with the EFL
 
Limechase said:
No it would be this season, as Bournemouth waited until the 80th minute of their last game of the season, when they were to be relegated if they lost, but results went in their favour, so announced admin in the 80th minute, thus getting the points deduction the following season, the mighty EFL saw this and changed the rules..
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See 12.3.4 re 4th Thursday in March - although I accept "normal" may not apply.

EFL Official Website - Section 3 - The League

www.efl.com www.efl.com
 
Lewis MacLeod, Chey Dunkley, Joe Williams and Keifer Moore to name a few - would take a few of that squad on the cheap if possible !
 
You wonder if Wigan may want it applying this season in the hope other clubs go the same way and that then (and their recent good form) saves them and they essentially start next season without any real punishment and potentially a massive chunk of any debt dealt with on favourable terms.
Should they start next season on -12 points they will struggle to recruit a squad regardless of finances as they'll be doomed from the start.
 
Halifax71 said:
A banged my leg this morning, bloody Brexit.
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UK economy in trouble. Why would foreign investors want to remain?
tangerinenotorange said:
“unsatisfactory financial performance” . In other words, all about money and absolutely nothing to do with Brexit.

Shame for Wigan which is currently the best performing club in the Championship
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No, it's the bit where it says "and the impact of Brexit. It said Brexit “could have material long-term impact on the economy and the future growth of the UK which may damage investors’ confidence on the UK and also reduce local consumer spending, which could further deteriorate the performance of the [club]”.
 
LA1 Seasider said:
You wonder if Wigan may want it applying this season in the hope other clubs go the same way and that then (and their recent good form) saves them and they essentially start next season without any real punishment and potentially a massive chunk of any debt dealt with on favourable terms.
Should they start next season on -12 points they will struggle to recruit a squad regardless of finances as they'll be doomed from the start.
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Scarecrow munches on a pie and ponders whether to tell the football world he was a Wigan fan whilst still in the womb.
 
Reading the EFL statement they could still go down this season but will have grounds to appeal the 12 point deduction due to Covid-19.
 
Hadley said:
Reading the EFL statement they could still go down this season but will have grounds to appeal the 12 point deduction due to Covid-19.
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Thats how I read it it says points deduction will be applied at end of season unless they are in a relegation place then rolls over.
 
Hadley said:
Reading the EFL statement they could still go down this season but will haveing e grounds to appeal the 12 point deduction due to Covid-19.
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I doubt that would be successful grounds for appeal when all other clubs are also facing the Covid19. Going into administration potentially gives them a financial competitive advantage over other clubs. What they will be hoping for is to get sufficient points to avoid the relegation even with a 12 point deduction. Being in administration will restrict transfers in and limit wage levels and may allow players to leave if contracts are breached.
 
Robbie - I disagree. As I put in the post above, all other clubs are facing Covid 19. Going into administration potentially gives them a financial competitive advantage over other clubs not in administration
Also force majeure could have been used to void the season or any promotion or relegation, but was not used.
 
bfcpete said:
Robbie - I disagree. As I put in the post above, all other clubs are facing Covid 19. Going into administration potentially gives them a financial competitive advantage over other clubs not in administration
Also force majeure could have been used to void the season or any promotion or relegation, but was not used.
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Good points Pete. However, if several clubs go the same way then the EFL might have a tricky job to sort the deserving from the undeserving. Wigan might actually be calculating that at least one of the clubs around them in the table are going to be in trouble. But I take your point entirely. It does make you wonder when such a provision would ever be used, though, if it can't be used now.
 
Robbie - In those type of circumstances I have always believed that the safest and fairest thing to do is to apply your normal rules. If you don't it could be challenged by clubs not in administration.
 
seasideone said:
Admin just been on Sky and said does not think Covid related.
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Yes, was quite interesting. Said the club’s cash flow may have been better than it otherwise would’ve been due to player furloughs, rates waivers etc. Did say COVID may’ve been the reason the money supply from the ‘owner’ was cut off.

I do wonder if this is going to be where the problems arise — owners who’ve been pumping in vast sums finding they can no longer do so.

I do wonder what will happen to fans who are due refunds. Will they just go on the pile of unsecured creditors?
 
Didn't they buy Bolton's training ground a couple of years back. We should be interested if price is right. Either that or AFC Fylde. Not all players managers live on Fylde coast so it would be nearer for many
 
basilrobbie said:
Gerald Krasner?

Now I am REALLY worried for them.
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Indeed. It cost Bournemouth 3 million quid for his stint as administrator which ultimately comes out of the fans pockets. I'm surprised they didnt go for season ticket renewals to help them along and I wonder if this affects the rugby league team?
 
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