VAR destroying the game

VAR is destroying the game correct. But these referees are so f*cking soft it’s unreal! If Max Kilman had have gone down rolling around, that lad would’ve been sent off and the game may have been down the other end.

With the 2nd pen, grow a pair of balls and stand by your decision. The lad dived and they’re buying the officials. It’s an absolute joke!
 
Parky1953 said:
VAR is destroying the game correct. But these referees are so f*cking soft it’s unreal! If Max Kilman had have gone down rolling around, that lad would’ve been sent off and the game may have been down the other end.

With the 2nd pen, grow a pair of balls and stand by your decision. The lad dived and they’re buying the officials. It’s an absolute joke!
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You can clearly see Wilson brings his leg past the defender and then dives. Pointless watching games that are randomly decided by VAR. If a ref makes a mistake on the field as they a,ways have, fair enough BUT when you have lots of video, 2/3 officials off pitch looking at a decision and still get it wrong that’s just an insult
 
I fail to see the point in asking the on field ref to take a look if they only ever agree with the VAR officials. Unfortunately what we're finding now is the on field ref actually making the right call, and VAR getting him to overturn it. Referees really ought to start showing a bit more backbone when it comes to VAR, as it seems to me they don't feel comfortable sticking by their decision.
 
Wolves getting done again? How many times have they been on the receiving end of bad VAR calls? But at least the Ref apologise!

You might think that with the epidemic of appalling decisions against us in 2010, had VAR been around things might have been different. Wolves' experience this season shows that's not the case. Something doesn't feel right.
 
Nothing worse than seeing a fantastic goal and all the team celebrating then you hear ' And VAR are looking at this '
 
I said it from day one and continue to say it to this day, the biggest kicker is VAR has taken the spontaneity out of the game, which as we all know is the biggest buzz in football.

That euphoric moment when your team bags a last minute winner, we still have it in L1 as we have no VAR and it is something that NEVER should be taken away, when the Pool play if we score, I take a look over at the lino and if his flag stays down then brilliant, we've scored a goal.

In the PL, every time a team scores the fans can't celebrate as time after time they know a 'goal check" sign lights up and they end up waiting for what seems like an age for a decision to be made, it's absolute bullshit.

Invariably when the ref is asked over to review a decision, the pressure is on him to change his mind as the people at VAR are telling him "you've got this one wrong, review it".

At the end of the day whether it be a ref, linesman or VAR the game is all about opinions, one ref may deem a certain challenge to be a foul or contact with an arm handball, another ref may feel its not worthy of a foul or the player didn't intend to handle the ball, the ref and VAR may well differ in their opinions same as every football fan at the ground or watching on TV may do too, that's why the game is what it is, we all think differently.

After tonight Gary O'Neil will feel hard done by VAR and as he said on interview, they seem to be getting their fair share of tight calls against them right now, hopefully for everyone it will even itself out over the season.

What is for sure, VAR cost Wolves at least one point tonight and maybe all three, and that shouldn't be happening.
 
It's not the VAR technology that's the problem but the people that operate it. The well publicised Spurs Liverpool farce is the prime example. On that occasion the use of VAR added no value at all but it didn't make things any worse, as without it the outcome would have been the same - a wrongly disallowed goal.
Let's not forget the constant whingeing on here about crap refereeing - VAR is supposed to help overturn some of those crap decisions. It just needs to be used properly by suitably qualified people and above all people with integrity.
 
And to make it even better, they're now looking at VAR for corners and throw-ins. What they fail to understand is that by taking the human element out of it, they're ruining the reason we enjoy the game - the passion and emotion gets destroyed.

Do what they have in cricket - give each team so many VAR reviews in the match for big decisions, but once they're used, it's down to the ref on the field to deal with decision making.
 
Murciaseasider said:
It's not the VAR technology that's the problem but the people that operate it. The well publicised Spurs Liverpool farce is the prime example. On that occasion the use of VAR added no value at all but it didn't make things any worse, as without it the outcome would have been the same - a wrongly disallowed goal.
Let's not forget the constant whingeing on here about crap refereeing - VAR is supposed to help overturn some of those crap decisions. It just needs to be used properly by suitably qualified people and above all people with integrity.
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We keep getting told this but nah - not interested who is using it or how. It's still ruining the game.
 
Yes, I think if you took VAR out now the vast majority of fans would say "Good Riddance" and at the end of the day what the fans want is the most important thing there is, come to think of it I think the players would agree too.

FIFA, for once do what people want and f@ck it off.
 
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Macseasider said:
We keep getting told this but nah - not interested who is using it or how. It's still ruining the game
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I'm happy with it because the technology corrects far more than those VAR officials get wrong. What the VAR officials need to get a grip on is that not every slight contact in the area is a penalty and not every ball touching the arm/hand is handball.
 
20togo said:
I'm happy with it because the technology corrects far more than those VAR officials get wrong. What the VAR officials need to get a grip on is that not every slight contact in the area is a penalty and not every ball touching the arm/hand is handball.
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But they won't and it will and is getting worse.

We are getting to the realms of incorrectly placed goal kicks, exact spots where throw ins should be taken, people infringing the centre circle at kick off, the ball not on the spot in the centre circle at kick off. It's never ending and it's fcking boring.
 
Macseasider said:
But they won't and it will and is getting worse.

We are getting to the realms of incorrectly placed goal kicks, exact spots where throw ins should be taken, people infringing the centre circle at kick off, the ball not on the spot in the centre circle at kick off. It's never ending and it's fcking boring.
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Yep, more and more poor decisions are being made and it needs to get better. But if VAR were to be discarded how long before every single manager bemoans a bad decision in every single game.
 
20togo said:
Yep, more and more poor decisions are being made and it needs to get better. But if VAR were to be discarded how long before every single manager bemoans a bad decision in every single game.
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I take your point but managers moaning was ever thus before VAR and survived quite well. I dare say it would survive after VAR.

Every other league in England seems to survive without it.
 
3 VAR reviews for each team per match, otherwise let the ref and linesmen get on with it. Use the technology to only check ref decisions the teams want reviewing.

It’s common in a lot of sports though now, that with sports science, data etc we’re making sports people more and more robotic, with less human tolerances which is why people get so hooked into sport in the first place. Now with technology, this is compounded. Sad really.
 
I actually thought it would help teams like us who often get the shïtty end of the referee decisions.
However, the idiots in charge have found a way to make it way OTT and yet still favouring the bigger clubs’

More than happy to bin it completely.
 
It's a shame offsides can't be more automated like the goalline buzzer. I thought that is where it was heading with VAR.

You know Hawkeye isn't 100%, we've benefitted from that when Dan Grimshaw managed to shithouse a robot, but it's trusted enough that it does the job intended and allows the game to flow.

I don't know how you'd go back to the on field decision being final though about everything else. Lazy refs now. Just there to be part of the show like the pitchside monitor.
 
FIFA first introduced VAR (and formulated as goal line technology) as a direct result of Blatter’s embarrassed reaction to Frank Lampard’s “goal” not given by an incompetent Ref and Lino against Germany in the 2010 WC in South Africa. That was meant to be the full extent of it.

But the Prem has extended VAR simply because of the huge financial consequences at the end of the season of every point given or denied. It’s not VAR that has taken over on its own to help Refs, it’s the Money Men covering their arses against the increasing risk of multiple High Court cases. That’s the real driving force; as they say… “follow the money”.
 
VAR is a joke and if I could, I'd bin it straight away

1. SKY loves VAR as it creates controversial decisions meaning more attention, phone ins, ref watch programmes etc. Also, I am convinced SKY influences VAR. Look how many times Neville and that scouse git scream for reviews.

2. The actions of certain managers influence VAR reviews. See Klopp post Spurs and Arteta post Newcastle.
 
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