Thoughts on Bowler Poll

Thoughts on Bowler Poll

  • Anything over £3-4 Million then cash in

    Votes: 130 67.0%

  • Keep hold of him and let him go next May as a free agent

    Votes: 28 14.4%

  • Try and retain him until January

    Votes: 36 18.6%
  • Total voters
    194
If he isn't going to sign a new contract then unfortunately we might have to cash in whilst we still can. I wouldn't even entertain anything below £4m though.

One thing's for sure. I'll be very sad to see him go. A tremendous talent.
 
got him on a signing on fee, cash in and go for another similar player. He was really raw when we got him and he needed a lot of patience, not sure he would get the same at a Forest or Fulham.
 
We've only got one season of him and I'm not sure that's worth more than 3m. I wouldn't take less than 3 but I'd take more than 3.

That's just my arbitrary gut feeling though. The club has to weigh up all the variables and that includes potential signings that we can realistically make by next Wed. It's hard to know how much we will miss him tbh. We might be hopeless without him. But with Fiorini and Patino back fit and a settled from three we might be effective in a different way.
 
Really don’t want him to go, but we can’t hold him back and I understand if he goes for a big move.
 
1. Ask for 6/7 million, and whoever his new club is can take him immediately OR

2. They can have him for 2.5 million BUT they must loan him back to us for the season
 
Philbfctrois said:
Why on earth would anyone want to cash in when there is very little chance of us being able to spend the money or improve on Bowler
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The 3/4 mill will be invested in players at some point, keep him a year and no investment for players.
 
With a very heavy heart - let the guy go for £4m, as he's clearly not going to sign a new contract with us. He's ambitious, but never sulked, he's been a pleasure to watch and he's always given his best.
That apology from Josh to the supporters summed him up and it certainly wasn't merited.
My only concern is - the club hasn't yet spent the Judas money on players, so there's no certainty they'll give MA the money from Josh.
 
With three or four EPL clubs interested in him he clearly is a rare talent. £3m is a fraction of his true value and whoever ties him to a long contract is buying a much more valuable asset. An inflation proof investment.
 
FY5_Seasider said:
If he isn't going to sign a new contract then unfortunately we might have to cash in whilst we still can. I wouldn't even entertain anything below £4m though.

One thing's for sure. I'll be very sad to see him go. A tremendous talent.
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Agree, I'd like to think we can keep hold of our best players but there are many of variables that can prevent this. Bowlers future is in known if he leaves but more certain if he stays and helps the pool to the prem which I think I think is possible
 
Judging by the start of the season and looking at the table, there doesn't seem to be 'nailed on' relegation teams this season, unlike previous years. A lot of the teams currently round the bottom won't be there come the end of the season. I think it will be a very tight league and realistically a good portion of the division will be happy to just avoid relegation this year. If bowler goes then I really don't fancy our chances. I'd be keeping him until at least January, and if we are in a decent position then you can look to cash in - even if it will be half of what we could get selling this week.
 
I would love to see him stay as he has the X-factor that is absolutely priceless when it comes to entertainment. In my mind, given the ridiculous transfer fees being paid, £3M is an absolute steal. I would play hardball and say minimum £5M. Let's see how much they really want him. An extra £2.5M is peanuts to an EPL club, especially one like Forest who are spending like there is no tomorrow. Taking a different perspective, I wonder what advice Josh is getting off his agent and whether he may be tempted to see out his contract and bag a large chunk of his market value in a singiing on fee. Of course the danger for him is that he gets injured and the danger for us is that his form drops off once he has signed a pre-contract agreement with someone else in January. What an exciting prospect it would be to see him develop an understanding with the young playmakers we have brought in. Who knows it could see us have a shot at the play-offs. And as we are the undisputed play-off kings, if we get in them we have a very good chance of going up and bagging £150M+. SS may view the risk reward of keeping him this season as being an attractive one....
 
Gone for the over £3-4million option but would prefer some cash n a couple of players in a swap deal….. Leicester could throw Hirst in the deal for example.
 
Something niggles away at me that we let him go for £3m, we don’t spend it and we struggle. He goes to some pompous club that dont play him and he ends up on loan at the nobbers. He could be the difference of us struggling to making the play offs, how much is that worth ?
 
Here's the thing. Lots of you slate players and were banging on about player x, y and z being not good enough. Now you want to flog Bowler. That's madness.

We have got lots of 'good, honest pro' types. That's fine. You need them. They are like the vegetables in a curry..

Bowler is the herbs or the spice that makes the curry what it is.

Without him, the carrots and potatoes taste of nothing.

He was our most important player last year, he's our most important player this year and perhaps even more so as our new style relies more on technical aptitude than our old style did.

I'm the first to defend the likes of Husband, Dougall etc. You need the potatoes to make the curry. You certainly can't make a curry purely out of spice but without the spice, it's just a bland pile of vegetables.
 
td53 said:
Here's the thing. Lots of you slate players and were banging on about player x, y and z being not good enough. Now you want to flog Bowler. That's madness.

We have got lots of 'good, honest pro' types. That's fine. You need them. They are like the vegetables in a curry..

Bowler is the herbs or the spice that makes the curry what it is.

Without him, the carrots and potatoes taste of nothing.

He was our most important player last year, he's our most important player this year and perhaps even more so as our new style relies more on technical aptitude than our old style did.

I'm the first to defend the likes of Husband, Dougall etc. You need the potatoes to make the curry. You certainly can't make a curry purely out of spice but without the spice, it's just a bland pile of vegetables.
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You can make a decent soup with vegetables though. And a stock cube. Is Josh also a stock cube?
 
voyeur said:
You can make a decent soup with vegetables though. And a stock cube. Is Josh also a stock cube?
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He's whatever you want to fit the analogy of your choice. He's the fuse in the appliance, the filament in the lightbulb, the battery in the watch or whatever...
 
td53 said:
He's whatever you want to fit the analogy of your choice. He's the fuse in the appliance, the filament in the lightbulb, the battery in the watch or whatever...
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Where does this leave Gaz? Is he a massive potato? Or some diced chicken? Or something else?
 
td53 said:
He's a big naan bread or a samosa. He's not (this year) a necessary aspect of the curry, but you wouldn't not want it to be available.
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I'm almost convinced. 👍

your stats suggested he IS a necessary ingredient
 
voyeur said:
I'm almost convinced. 👍
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He's got to play tomorrow. I am baffled as to how the fuck we'll look any different to Burnley first half against a team bang in form of he doesn't.

I would otherwise say the boy is the most super of super subs if everyone is fit.
 
td53 said:
He's got to play tomorrow. I am baffled as to how the fuck we'll look any different to Burnley first half against a team bang in form of he doesn't.

I would otherwise say the boy is the most super of super subs if everyone is fit.
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Would you start Gaz and leave Shayne out, or bring Gaz on after an hour? I've been debating it with myself.
 
voyeur said:
Would you start Gaz and leave Shayne out, or bring Gaz on after an hour? I've been debating it with myself.
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I'd play 2 up front or I'd play Jerry withdrawn between midfield and Gaz though I'm sceptical about that. It's just cos Jerry is about the only player with a bit of touch and vision fit, so if he insists on 433 (or 4231) then who the fuck else plays there?

There's no one who can play that 10 role. Corbeaneu maybe able to press and run but his touch is CJ-esque. Virtue can't play it in a month of sundays. Bowler maybe could but you lose Bowler wide and thus it weakens us chronically. Them you're at Rob Apter in terms of who is available and he didn't get a game Vs Barrow, so he ain't playing tomorrow.

Shayne stays wide left.
 
td53 said:
Here's the thing. Lots of you slate players and were banging on about player x, y and z being not good enough. Now you want to flog Bowler. That's madness.

We have got lots of 'good, honest pro' types. That's fine. You need them. They are like the vegetables in a curry..

Bowler is the herbs or the spice that makes the curry what it is.

Without him, the carrots and potatoes taste of nothing.

He was our most important player last year, he's our most important player this year and perhaps even more so as our new style relies more on technical aptitude than our old style did.

I'm the first to defend the likes of Husband, Dougall etc. You need the potatoes to make the curry. You certainly can't make a curry purely out of spice but without the spice, it's just a bland pile of vegetables.
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Would that be a Rogan Josh then?
 
td53 said:
I'd play 2 up front or I'd play Jerry withdrawn between midfield and Gaz though I'm sceptical about that. It's just cos Jerry is about the only player with a bit of touch and vision fit, so if he insists on 433 (or 4231) then who the fuck else plays there?

There's no one who can play that 10 role. Corbeaneu maybe able to press and run but his touch is CJ-esque. Virtue can't play it in a month of sundays. Bowler maybe could but you lose Bowler wide and thus it weakens us chronically. Them you're at Rob Apter in terms of who is available and he didn't get a game Vs Barrow, so he ain't playing tomorrow.

Shayne stays wide left.
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I thought both Shayne and Theo were a bit lacking last week. Poor even. It was like 9 men. So I'd bring Gaz in and leave one of them out. In fact I might leave both out. I actually think CJ might offer more than those two have done so far.

I might be in a minority here! CJ is incredibly hit and miss and a lot miss but he has good moments. Apart from his tap in Lavs did nowt last week really. Lots of running I suppose. Similar with Corbs. I wasn't there though so I'd listen to people who went and were reasonably sober. :)

There's always Virtue too I guess! Could he do a job? And Apter, as you say. It's a clear opportunity to take a gamble and see what he can do in a position he is suited to.
 
voyeur said:
I thought both Shayne and Theo were a bit lacking last week. Poor even. It was like 9 men. So I'd bring Gaz in and leave one of them out. In fact I might leave both out. I actually think CJ might offer more than those two have done so far.

I might be in a minority here! CJ is incredibly hit and miss and a lot miss but he has good moments. Apart from his tap in Lavs did nowt last week really. Lots of running I suppose. Similar with Corbs. I wasn't there though so I'd listen to people who went and were reasonably sober. :)

There's always Virtue too I guess! Could he do a job? And Apter, as you say. It's a clear opportunity to take a gamble and see what he can do in a position he is suited to.
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Apter *might* make the bench.

For me, CJ seriously lacks the touch to play Appletonball long term.
 
Also, Virtue might have to play as I believe Gabriel might be out because of a bereavement, which means Connolly at right back and leaves us even weaker in midfield...
 
Bowler is the type of player who makes you want to watch professional football. As the modern game becomes increasingly choreographed he is old school, taking on defenders, breaking the lines of defence, weaving his magic. He is far from the finished article and needs to work on his decision making and finishing.

But he is one of the top young talents in the Championship and 3-4M seems way below market value. Yes, he is in the final year of his contract but so is Brereton-Diaz at Blackburn and he is being valued at 12M+. Why are we viewed as a soft touch desperate for money? Every time we unearth a talent will we only get to watch them for a max of 1-2 seasons at most. I am thinking Charlie Adam, Wes Hoolahan etc I guess football has always been dog eat dog.
 
I called it last week Josh as the 10

Didn't quite work out, so this week I agree with that TD bloke Jerry as the 10
 
We sell him and they loan him back for the season is the only win we can have, he is going to on the bench there or maybe not even for some games with the squad they have got, that would impair his development, secure him and give him back to us for the season is the only good outcome for me, but of course I'm being an unrealistic fan.
 
I’d say with a heavy heart. Sell for 4 million plus add ons. Loan back for the season and also as above a 20% sell on clause
 
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