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Isn't that exactly what you and yours have been advocating we do, with the British first policy? Get everyone vaccinated here then help out elsewhere?
No. I posted a similar post regards Finland and asked if we should help them out.Isn't that exactly what you and yours have been advocating we do, with the British first policy? Get everyone vaccinated here then help out elsewhere?
Hang on. If Johnson stopped a shipment because they were needed here first, would the vote leave wolfhounds on here be giving him the bird. I don't think so.
I've just reread that thread, and nearly everyone was saying put our own house in order first, plus pointing out your post was misleading as they neither want nor have asked for helpNo. I posted a similar post regards Finland and asked if we should help them out.
So you read it and decided that it was misleading. What part of what I posted didn’t luxe to helping another county ? I know it’s tough for you wiz, in your head you want me to be a nasty bigot/facist/gammon/racists/xenophobic horror. Sorry to disappoint.I've just reread that thread, and nearly everyone was saying put our own house in order first, plus pointing out your post was misleading as they neither want nor have asked for help
I think there will be a law suit from the EU against AZ. This goes back to AZ not honouring their contract with the EU.Australia don't the same scale of difficultbut they still need the vaccine and they placed orders in good faith.
There will be court action at some point against the EU as they will have breached some trade law or other.
Inevitable global reputational harm alongside, our local differences. Long term, investment and relationships are going to be strained.
I don't blame the Italians, but there will be consequences.
The EU is a joke organisation run by criminals let's hope they reap what they sow with their non recognition of our brilliant scientific achievements.
And the EU will lose just read the contract no way AZ promised shit.I think there will be a law suit from the EU against AZ. This goes back to AZ not honouring their contract with the EU.
I think AZ would fancy their chances from the "best efforts" clause.I think there will be a law suit from the EU against AZ. This goes back to AZ not honouring their contract with the EU.
We've left the EU why are people so obsessed with trying to resurrect the past..the UK has propped up this corrupt organisation for 40 years with the same reward as the nations who have given very little...were out so let's move on.And the EU will lose just read the contract no way AZ promised shit.
They can try.I think there will be a law suit from the EU against AZ. This goes back to AZ not honouring their contract with the EU.
Whilst I agree that Europe - especially Italy - would appear to have a greater need, what they’ve done is basically wrong and will undoubtedly lead to repercussions.Just 13 new cases in the whole of Australia in the last 24 hours and no deaths as per this dashboard -
https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/359bca83a1264e3fb8d3b6f0a028d768
I think Europe needs those vaccine doses a hell of a lot more than Australia.
Just 13 new cases in the whole of Australia in the last 24 hours and no deaths as per this dashboard -
https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/359bca83a1264e3fb8d3b6f0a028d768
I think Europe needs those vaccine doses a hell of a lot more than Australia.
Never mind Australia. The EU has blocked the shipment of vaccines to everywhere including the UK. The EU's Internal Market Commissioner Thierry Breton said the Netherlands based AstraZeneca subcontractor Halix had not sent any doses of the vaccine to the UK since the bloc implemented export controls.
I wouldn’t mind if they had some of our excess stock.Should we send Australia some of ours then?
I wouldn’t mind if they had some of our excess stock.
Australia have done so well because they locked down early and controlled their borders. At some point they are going to have to ease their restrictions, and that means a vaccination programme. So who will be producing their supply? AZ?
Well that’s what they need to do then.On the subject of vaccine, I believe AZ has the facilities to produce 50m doses within Aus.
Well that’s what they need to do then.
And they don’t have to dance to the EU’s tune / sale of contract law breaking.
The EU don't have excess stock so looks like you agree with their stance.I wouldn’t mind if they had some of our excess stock.
I meant the U.K. excess stocks. Of which there is a lot. I certainly don’t agree with the EU approach here. It’s not the right way to go about things.The EU don't have excess stock so looks like you agree with their stance.
So if the UK was short of stocks and still had thousands of new cases a day, like the EU is experiencing, would you still advocate the UK sending Australia 250,000 vaccines even though it only gets 13 new cases a day?I meant the U.K. excess stocks. Of which there is a lot. I certainly don’t agree with the EU approach here. It’s not the right way to go about things.
There’s a difference between giving up your own vaccine and stealing someone else’s...So if the UK was short of stocks and still had thousands of new cases a day, like the EU is experiencing, would you still advocate the UK sending Australia 250,000 vaccines even though it only gets 13 new cases a day?
That’s not the real life scenario though, is it.So if the UK was short of stocks and still had thousands of new cases a day, like the EU is experiencing, would you still advocate the UK sending Australia 250,000 vaccines even though it only gets 13 new cases a day?
Fuc, the EU why should we help these lame dogs theh tried to scupper our vaccine programme but failed.
They are only on the other side of the world from us and Europe, there’s plenty of countries on their doorstep including China, Japan and believe it or not the USA is t that far away.Australia have done well because they're on the other side of the world, most of the major population centres are 2000 miles away from anywhere and the climate doesn't suit the virus anyway.
On the subject of vaccine, I believe AZ has the facilities to produce 50m doses within Aus.
That’s not the real life scenario though, is it.
When it goes to court, as it most likely will, they will deal with real life rather than hypothetical ethics.
They are only on the other side of the world from us and Europe, there’s plenty of countries on their doorstep including China, Japan and believe it or not the USA is t that far away.
Look don’t be so facetious, I’ve lived there I know where it is. The world is round you know.Nearest land is Papua New Guinea ~ 200 km or so away, but that part of Aus is virtually unpopulated, the big cities are located about 2,000 km from anywhere overseas, and a pretty big distance from each other as well.
China/Japan is 5,000 - 6,000 km (further to anywhere actually populated), US is more like 12,000 km, so only about 2,000 km closer than the UK.