Simon Sadler: A New Year's Message

Recidivist3 said:
‘I do feel that at times some of the comments levelled at players and staff can be a bit harsh and ultimately unhelpful.’

Hear, hear!

Simon Says

Feck off you whinging cnts
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Football fans at all clubs whinge after a defeat
It’s what we do and it’s what makes the game so compelling
I don’t understand why anyone would have an issue with that
 
TwelveAngryMen said:
Football fans at all clubs whinge after a defeat
It’s what we do and it’s what makes the game so compelling
I don’t understand why anyone would have an issue with that
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Yeah, I can't imagine the content of Pool fans' posts on social media are any different to fans of the other 91 clubs tbh.

That's a couple of times this season that official club statements have referenced fans negative opinions online though. Unless the comments are against the law then I'm not really sure why they've done it as it just gives them greater importance than they deserve imo.
 
RossendaleSeasider said:
Yeah, I can't imagine the content of Pool fans' posts on social media are any different to fans of the other 91 clubs tbh.

That's a couple of times this season that official club statements have referenced fans negative opinions online though. Unless the comments are against the law then I'm not really sure why they've done it as it just gives them greater importance than they deserve imo.
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My thoughts exactly
Yes some are critical but that’s not unusual
Liverpool / Utd / Arsenal / Chelsea forums will contain the same
 
Clearly a good man with his heart in the right place. What a contrast to what we had to put up with for so long and so often cringed about before Simon emerged as our club`s saviour.

I would just wish him and our club and all our supporters a happy and healthy New Year, hopefully culminating in due course in the kind of success for our team that all of us dream of and that Simon works so hard for and surely dreams of too.
 
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Mark_GT said:
There are so many good things about our new custodian. One of the best of these is how little we hear from him directly considering the scale of his commitment. I reckon when he speaks we should listen 👍
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He’s just tweeted on social media that Allez is a tool.
 
Anyone have any idea where the 5 potential sites are for the training ground ?
 
TwelveAngryMen said:
For every negative comment there are positives
I think you have to take the rough with the smooth on social media
If the players can’t take constructive criticism I’d recommend that they stay away from social media and let’s be right many do
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Let's not confuse constructive criticism and destructive criticism. There's lots of the latter, and that is why SS obviously felt compelled to put that paragraph in his message. And I agree with him. People on here and on Twitter should maybe think twice and count to ten before ranting about individuals in the way they far too often do. It's grim to read as a bystander, at times, never mind if you were the unfortunate subject. I'm back to avoiding these places during and after a game we don't win. The level of comment is embarrassing at times, predictable, ill informed mostly, and unhelpful. As Sadler implies. He's right. We are very lucky to have him, and Critchley and the other staff, and the players. There's healthy discussion, and unhealthy discussion. We see plenty of both.

Happy new year everyone! 😊
 
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Thank you Simon Sadler for everything you and your team do for our club. May I wish everyone at the club a Happy New Year and hope and pray everything will come right soon and we can get back supporting our team live rather than watching screens. Add to say, this Ifollow has been great and have seen more away matches this winter than I would have been able to get to. UTMP.
 
Really is chalk and cheese when compared to the last lot. Positivity combined with realistic views of where we are and where we want to go. No mention of floating pitches or agents being the offspring of Satan. It genuinely makes me comfortable with our club and willing to accept the rough with the smooth. We’re trying to be as good as we can in all elements of the club and that’s all anyone can ask for.
 
What a great message from Simon. Information, in general, as to what is and hopefully will be happening in the future. Careful Mr Sadler we're not used to this sort of openness and honesty.

A very happy new year to you your family as well as the management, staff and the players.
 
RossendaleSeasider said:
Yeah, I can't imagine the content of Pool fans' posts on social media are any different to fans of the other 91 clubs tbh.
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I have no doubt you are correct, but that doesn't make it right.

Like voyeur, I've learned to just avoid this place when we lose, and I completely blank all other forms of BFC-related social media as well, because I know exactly what it will be like.

Constructive criticism in one thing. Abuse and plain contrariness are another thing altogether. The people who run the club don't make a fuss about it, but they inherited the most horrendous mess ; the Interim Board had managed to stop getting it any worse, but hadn't had the time or the resources to make more than limited progress (no criticism at all, theirs was a sterling effort). I think it is a minor miracle that the we are still functioning as a competitive club when you consider how far back Mr. Sadler and his team started.

Many of the moaners nod sagely when you point all this out. But they don't actually know what the reality of it is, they don't have a clue about how much thought and effort goes into the positioning of the club these days and they most certainly don't stop to think before they share their dubious "wisdom" with the rest of us.
 
I like SS and I like his message

Social media just polarisers and amplifies and is designed to make you stick on it. The differing of opinion is no better or worse than it used to be, the passion of those beliefs are the same; we just have vehicles to let more people hear them.

Where historically it was just you and your mates disagreeing and taking nonsense; we now have the chance to share it with thousands. Add into the mix that loads of people block/ignore and you are creating the conditions where what I think is always right, ergo if you disagree you wrong and we end up squabbling like 7 year olds!!

Nuance is sadly lacking and has very little traction as you don't get enough responses to feed your ego.

Meanwhile all the best for 2021; full of joy and happiness!
 
Thank you for sharing your message with us Simon, it really is good to know that we have caring and professional people in charge of the club which means so much to all of us.

Happy New Year to you and your family and to everyone associated with the club
 
So good to have a man like Simon to own, and invest in, our club.
He makes the point about heartless criticism of NC and some of the players.
I have been one of the ones criticising, who hasn't felt the need at times?
However, he makes the point about constructive criticism, which I agree with wholeheartedly.
No more slagging players and management off, if you want to criticise make it constructive.
I know some couldn't care less but lets give the lads, and the management, real support and accept that we won't win every match.
 
voyeur said:
Let's not confuse constructive criticism and destructive criticism. There's lots of the latter, and that is why SS obviously felt compelled to put that paragraph in his message. And I agree with him. People on here and on Twitter should maybe think twice and count to ten before ranting about individuals in the way they far too often do. It's grim to read as a bystander, at times, never mind if you were the unfortunate subject. I'm back to avoiding these places during and after a game we don't win. The level of comment is embarrassing at times, predictable, ill informed mostly, and unhelpful. As Sadler implies. He's right. We are very lucky to have him, and Critchley and the other staff, and the players. There's healthy discussion, and unhealthy discussion. We see plenty of both.

Happy new year everyone! 😊
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I agree with this , I can moan at times , but I only moan what I see , I still think pool are lacking in certain areas , striker and left sided player and neil needs to stick to his fullbacks , not to keep changing them all the time , my opinion thou lol
see that’s construction criticism 😉 , what I don’t like seeing is , the threatening comments , fellow pool fans wanting to fight 🤷 what’s this all about , we can all see Neil and the players are trying and Simon is laying the foundation, but pool fans wanting to fight with each other needs to stop , so toxic
 
TwelveAngryMen said:
Football fans at all clubs whinge after a defeat
It’s what we do and it’s what makes the game so compelling
I don’t understand why anyone would have an issue with that
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I think it was the unwarranted criticism Mansford got a few months back that probably upset him and I don’t blame him. Ridiculous when he doesn’t have any input on team selection or tactics.
Happy New Year Simon. What would we have done without him.
 
voyeur said:
Let's not confuse constructive criticism and destructive criticism. There's lots of the latter, and that is why SS obviously felt compelled to put that paragraph in his message. And I agree with him. People on here and on Twitter should maybe think twice and count to ten before ranting about individuals in the way they far too often do. It's grim to read as a bystander, at times, never mind if you were the unfortunate subject. I'm back to avoiding these places during and after a game we don't win. The level of comment is embarrassing at times, predictable, ill informed mostly, and unhelpful. As Sadler implies. He's right. We are very lucky to have him, and Critchley and the other staff, and the players. There's healthy discussion, and unhealthy discussion. We see plenty of both.

Happy new year everyone! 😊
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This is bang on. Agree 100 per cent.

This board and other social media outlets will inevitably be something the players and management will look at.

It’s natural for every normal human being to want to know what others think about them if they care about how they are perceived .

Some of the stuff put on here was awful re Critch and some of the other players when we going through our bad run and I suspect it was pretty demoralising and won’t have helped . At the end of the day you don’t really want to run through brick walls for people who don’t support you and attack you personally .

It has to be accepted that the management are going to read this board. The players are going to read this board. This will continue .

It is normal for football fans to vent their frustrations on the forums and critiscm has its place.

It’s great that we have this board where we can blow off a bit of steam when the performances have been rubbish and well below what we expect . The club will understand that this this is perfectly normal.

I think the majority of the posts on here are in fact constructive even those which are critical.

However I just wish the wind up merchants would bugger off. Hopefully the players understand that these types of people appear on all message boards not just ours.
 
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AngelBFC said:
This is bang on. Agree 100 per cent.

This board and other social media outlets will inevitably be something the players and management will look at.

It’s natural for every normal human being to want to know what others think about them if they care about how they are perceived .

Some of the stuff put on here was awful re Critch and some of the other players when we going through our bad run and I suspect it was pretty demoralising and won’t have helped . At the end of the day you don’t really want to run through brick walls for people who don’t support you and attack you personally .

It’s has to be accepted that the management are going to read this board. The players are going to read this board. This will continue .

It is normal for football fans to vent their frustrations on the forums and critiscm has its place.

It’s great that we have this board where we can blow off a bit of steam when the performances have been rubbish and well below what we expect . The club will understand that this this is perfectly normal.

I think the majority of the posts on here are in fact constructive even those which are critical.

However I just wish the wind up merchants would bugger off. Hopefully the players understand that these types of people appear on all message boards not just ours.
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A great reply to a great post. I hope the main protagonists who vented their spleens in such an unfortunate manner might just wait an hour or two before they go on social media after a bad result or if a players performance has been particularly poor?
 
Voy, Bas, Angel - not that there are many other days to take into account at this stage, but joint post of the year winners to date all the same.
 
TwelveAngryMen said:
For every negative comment there are positives
I think you have to take the rough with the smooth on social media
If the players can’t take constructive criticism I’d recommend that they stay away from social media and let’s be right many do
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I don’t think his comments are aimed at criticism or even negative comments in general but those who go way over the top.
As the club owner and an employer he has a responsibility for the wellbeing of his employees and I can fully understand his remarks especially as he comes across as someone who treats everyone with respect whether he agrees with them or not.
 
It's weird how he mentions Neil Critchley as the head coach when all the dimwits are telling me it's Colin Calderwood 🤨
 
Just read it , makes me proud to be a BFC supporter. He will understand our passion and sometimes our mis guided but unintentional comments which we are all prone to make when we lose. I haven’t felt this way about my beloved club since the late 80,s and Billy,s days . My dad survived the Ismails and the Cartmels ,us the O,s , so all we have to do is Support!! The easy bit UTMP!!
 
basilrobbie said:
I have no doubt you are correct, but that doesn't make it right.

Like voyeur, I've learned to just avoid this place when we lose, and I completely blank all other forms of BFC-related social media as well, because I know exactly what it will be like.

Constructive criticism in one thing. Abuse and plain contrariness are another thing altogether. The people who run the club don't make a fuss about it, but they inherited the most horrendous mess ; the Interim Board had managed to stop getting it any worse, but hadn't had the time or the resources to make more than limited progress (no criticism at all, theirs was a sterling effort). I think it is a minor miracle that the we are still functioning as a competitive club when you consider how far back Mr. Sadler and his team started.

Many of the moaners nod sagely when you point all this out. But they don't actually know what the reality of it is, they don't have a clue about how much thought and effort goes into the positioning of the club these days and they most certainly don't stop to think before they share their dubious "wisdom" with the rest of us.
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I think you might be on thin ground attacking other fans' dubious "wisdom" about the way our football club is run, tbh...

Like I said, I think they are giving throw-away tweets/posts far too much credence. They are the sort of thing that would get said in frustration to your mates whilst walking out of the ground, or in the pub post-match, and be forgotten about minutes later. Let's not pretend we all haven't heard a lot worse within earshot of players/managers in the west or south paddocks over the years. It's not a new thing. I would just quietly think 'nobhead' and pay no more attention to it if it was me. Unless what is said is illegal, then I am surprised to see the issue feature in official club minutes and statements tbh.

It's a side issue though, and it was a really great statement for Pool fans to read from the great man.
 
Just had a re-read as I was already on the beers when I read last night.

Love the sentiment of building for the future, making us a "progressive football club". Not only are we in good hands with Sadler at the minute, he's laying the groundwork for us to be successful even after he's been here. Now that is the sign of not only a good owner, but a good man! It really does make the sacrifices in our recent history worth it.
 
Happy new year to you and yours Simon we all owe you a great deal so looking forward to the next few years we are on the way back!!!
UTMP
 
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