Prince Harry

Archibald Knox said:
To be blunt, Harry wanted to keep his cake and to eat it. He wanted to continue being a Royal, with part-time duties on his own terms, after he and Meghan found they were a long way down the pecking order after Wills and Kate and their family.

When HMQ said “no” to that, and said that H&M had to be full-time working Royals being told what to do by his father and brother with little funding, or not at all with zero funding, they threw their toys out of the pram.

I think at that stage, after HMQ had lost her principal adviser with the death of Phillip, and with her now-known terminal illness, she was losing control of the Royal Family and was being firmly directed by Chaz and Wills in her decisions. Which Harry soon noticed when he was refused direct access to HMQ and so felt “betrayed”.

At that point, with Meghan’s prompting, he probably decided to give up his jostling for Royal position but had not yet realised the full and heavy consequences that baling out would mean. He was naive and has continued to be so in thinking that lashing out with his life story in retaliation would bring any real benefits. Apart from the many tens of millions of dollars, that is.
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Good post, totally agree with that summary.
 
Archibald Knox said:
He can’t. Such are the conditions and rules that allows a hereditary monarchy to exist.
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Of course he can… He’s the King ffs.. He just needs to grow a pair and start acting like one… He’s been a right Fanny all his life. Now he’s throwing his kids under the bus and taking their homes away.
 
No doubt this will inevitably lead to the publication of WAAAH! 2.

Go and live somewhere out of the way from everything if you want to the pair of you but don’t keep on with your ‘we want privacy world tour.
 
Chaz might be King for a while, but we know that any such power is relatively limited. His two sons have quite different levels of importance for the monarchy simply because of the order of their births. William will succeed as monarch while Harry has become even more secondary now, as William himself has heirs.

So William gets first choice of everything while Harry gets what’s left over. Even if Chaz wanted them to receive equally in everything the Palace machinery would soon change that in William’s favour. Chaz may be King but the Palace machinery tends to operate him rather than the other way around. As Harry has said, Charles is “trapped”.

Of course Chaz could have handled things that much better by giving Harry jobs that boosted his self-importance as compensation. But Chaz is very emotionally stunted because of his neglected upbringing and I doubt he has it in him to “grow a pair”.

He seems to have become totally dependent on Camilla now in making family decisions, and she seems to be the puppet mistress. He’s got a fair few problems to deal with. Andrew was the main problem because he would not go quietly away and lock himself in a cupboard for the rest of his life. Chaz’s reported opinion is that “the problem with Andrew is that he thinks he should be me”.

I doubt that Anne gives Chaz any support either, she probably treats him as Phillip did... and ignores the “stupid soft elder brother”. And Edward is as irrelevant as ever but at least he keeps his head down and does not cause problems. Edward knows he has a cushy life in Bagshot Park and is not looking for more. But Harry is now like the cartoon Tasmanian Devil, totally unpredictable and wild.
 
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Wilburrabbit said:
No doubt this will inevitably lead to the publication of WAAAH! 2.

Go and live somewhere out of the way from everything if you want to the pair of you but don’t keep on with your ‘we want privacy world tour.
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To be fair I don’t think it’s Harry and The Delectable Megs who are making all the noise about this so called “eviction”. Apart from confirming they’ve been asked to vacate Frogmore Cottage I think they’ve been admirably quiet about the whole thing.

The news has presumably been leaked (as usual) by Chaz and his bit on the side and all the noise is now coming from the usual bloviating blowhards in the media and on avftt.
 
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Mexboroseasider said:
I agree.

Shocking husband and an even worse father.
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Absolutely appalling... If that is what is supposed to constitute an 'example for the rest of us to aspire to follow' it's no wonder the Country is absolutely fucked.... Maybe he could make himself useful and turn his hand to growing tomatoes instead.
 
Archibald Knox said:
Chaz might be King for a while, but we know that any such power is relatively limited. His two sons have quite different levels of importance for the monarchy simply because of the order of their births. William will succeed as monarch while Harry has become even more secondary now, as William himself has heirs.

So William gets first choice of everything while Harry gets what’s left over. Even if Chaz wanted them to receive equally in everything the Palace machinery would soon change that in William’s favour. Chaz may be King but the Palace machinery tends to operate him rather than the other way around. As Harry has said, Charles is “trapped”.

Of course Chaz could have handled things that much better by giving Harry jobs that boosted his self-importance as compensation. But Chaz is very emotionally stunted because of his neglected upbringing and I doubt he has it in him to “grow a pair”.

He seems to have become totally dependent on Camilla now in making family decisions, and she seems to be the puppet mistress. He’s got a fair few problems to deal with. Andrew was the main problem because he would not go quietly away and lock himself in a cupboard for the rest of his life. Chaz’s reported opinion is that “the problem with Andrew is that he thinks he should be me”.

I doubt that Anne gives Chaz any support either, she probably treats him as Phillip did... and ignores the “stupid soft elder brother”. And Edward is as irrelevant as ever but at least he keeps his head down and does not cause problems. Edward knows he has a cushy life in Bagshott Park and is not looking for more. But Harry is now like the cartoon Tasmanian Devil, totally unpredictable and wild.
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Charles is independently wealthy in his own right... Who sits on the throne is an irrelevance really... It's the way in which the family interact with each other that is at issue, not how they perform on stage.

Don't bring kids into the world if you haven't got basic parenting skills
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Absolutely appalling... If that is what is supposed to constitute an 'example for the rest of us to aspire to follow' it's no wonder the Country is absolutely fucked.... Maybe he could make himself useful and turn his hand to growing tomatoes instead.
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👍 He could talk to them.

“Come on my plump little vegetable…errr fruit….err….whatever you are. Time to turn from green to red”.
 
It amazes me all this criticism of the relationship problems with the royal family, I’d gues it’s no different than any other family, the only difference is they’re in the spotlight and Harry chose to wash the dirty laundry in public.
 
Matesrates said:
It amazes me all this criticism of the relationship problems with the royal family, I’d gues it’s no different than any other family, the only difference is they’re in the spotlight and Harry chose to wash the dirty laundry in public.
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I don’t think Harry and The Fragrant Megs have relationship problems? They seem quite devoted and I’ve not heard any rumours of them cheating (I’m sure the fair minded Piers would let us know if there were).

By contrast our King is a known adulterer.

Uncle Andrew……well least said the better.

Auntie Anne played away.

Even the Blessed Wills has attracted less than flattering gossip. Something to do with pegs and washing lines I think.

But it’s Hazza and his gorgeous wife who get pelters.

The world (well the U.K. really) has genuinely gone bonkers.
 
Mexboroseasider said:
To be fair I don’t think it’s Harry and The Delectable Megs who are making all the noise about this so called “eviction”. Apart from confirming they’ve been asked to vacate Frogmore Cottage I think they’ve been admirably quiet about the whole thing.

The news has presumably been leaked (as usual) by Chaz and his bit on the side and all the noise is now coming from the usual bloviating blowhards in the media and on avftt.
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Time will tell
 
Matesrates said:
It amazes me all this criticism of the relationship problems with the royal family, I’d gues it’s no different than any other family, the only difference is they’re in the spotlight and Harry chose to wash the dirty laundry in public.
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😂

They’ve all been washing their dirty linen in public for years… Harry has simply hung the rest of them out to dry … And every credit. 👍

Don’t fuck with the Ginger Heir
 
Curryman said:
No family is perfect, and I include my own. However, what goes on behind closed doors is between the relevant parties and should remain behind those closed doors. Forgetting the Royalty bit for a moment, family, is sacrosanct and is not for broadcasting about disagreements, squables, or even fisticuffs. Harry has broken the first rule of being a family member, and I see no way back for him once his book of allegations is made public.
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Must be a bit harder if you're still considering whether your dad and grandad conspired to kill your mum.
 
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