Peter Murrell (Mr Nicola Sturgeon) arrested

TSSeasider said:
Police Scotland looking into the handling of SNP finance arrest him.

Obviously innocent until proven guilty and all that; I dare say Nicola Sturgeon 'won't recall' or have any inkling that her husband's personal finances and the Party she led for years might have not been all the seemed.
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A lot of people have been waiting for this.
 
I'm a bit torn in some ways as she can't be blamed for his behaviour.

But I do wonder, given her role in the party how she wouldn't know from one of her domestic or professional perspective.

Still, a little way to go and we've seen lots of potential wrong doing being found innocent.
 
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TSSeasider said:
Police Scotland looking into the handling of SNP finance arrest him.

Obviously innocent until proven guilty and all that; I dare say Nicola Sturgeon 'won't recall' or have any inkling that her husband's personal finances and the Party she led for years might have not been all the seemed.
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...and of course its nothing to do with the timing of her resignation.
 
And to think of the moral high ground she constantly claimed time and time again. Are there no good ones at all left ?

Not that I was a fan of hers in general but jeez…..
 
Archibald Knox said:
And now the police have taken in spades and shovels to dig up Nicola’s back garden. Have they had a tip-off as to where to find the Ormerod money?
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They've actually got shovels.

They don't seriously expect to find literal buried cash/info etc. Surely it's just for show.
 
He or they may have hidden or buried documents that incriminate them.

I must admit the shovels bit got me at first but I suppose it’s feasible, and if they have been tipped off they may know more about where and what they are looking for, evidence wise.
 
Various media reporting at Murrell's mother's home a £110,000 campervan was towed away by police.It was the first time it had moved since it arrived over 2 years ago at his 92 year old mum's place.🤔
 
Trammo said:
Various media reporting at Murrell's mother's home a £110,000 campervan was towed away by police.It was the first time it had moved since it arrived over 2 years ago at his 92 year old mum's place.🤔
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....which would tie in to the assessment in the latest issue of Private Eye that Police Scotland's investigation is focused on possible misappropriation of funds and several high-value transactions, including purchase of more than one motor vehicle.
 
£110,000 campervan - that's some campervan.

There's an argument to be said it's potentially better value than hotel stays whilst touring Scotland campaigning for independence - which is what I expect they will say.
 
TSSeasider said:
£110,000 campervan - that's some campervan.

There's an argument to be said it's potentially better value than hotel stays whilst touring Scotland campaigning for independence - which is what I expect they will say.
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Except the neighbours say it hasn't moved in 2 years, and it's too small to house more than a couple of people anyway.
 
Campervan seized at Nicola Sturgeon's mother-in-law's house was 'bought as SNP battle bus'
A luxury campervan reportedly seized by police from the home of Nicola Sturgeon's mother-in-law was bought to be used as an SNP election battle bus, it has been reported.

Party insiders told the Daily Record that the vehicle, which is thought to have cost around £110,000, was purchased during the pandemic for use in the spring 2021 Holyrood election campaign.

But it is understood the Niesmann + Bischoff motorhome was never used for that purpose after Covid restrictions were lifted by Ms Sturgeon.


That seems implausible to me, it's too small to work as a "battle bus", and a quick Google reveals rental rates for the very largest vans at about £100/day, or less than £5,000 for the whole campaign, probably far less if they can get a discount for the extended hire.
 
Lost Seasider said:
Campervan seized at Nicola Sturgeon's mother-in-law's house was 'bought as SNP battle bus'
A luxury campervan reportedly seized by police from the home of Nicola Sturgeon's mother-in-law was bought to be used as an SNP election battle bus, it has been reported.

Party insiders told the Daily Record that the vehicle, which is thought to have cost around £110,000, was purchased during the pandemic for use in the spring 2021 Holyrood election campaign.

But it is understood the Niesmann + Bischoff motorhome was never used for that purpose after Covid restrictions were lifted by Ms Sturgeon.


That seems implausible to me, it's too small to work as a "battle bus", and a quick Google reveals rental rates for the very largest vans at about £100/day, or less than £5,000 for the whole campaign, probably far less if they can get a discount for the extended hire.
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If they were willing to rent one, I’m sure they would have had one donated by a supporter for the duration.
 
Lost Seasider said:
Campervan seized at Nicola Sturgeon's mother-in-law's house was 'bought as SNP battle bus'
A luxury campervan reportedly seized by police from the home of Nicola Sturgeon's mother-in-law was bought to be used as an SNP election battle bus, it has been reported.

Party insiders told the Daily Record that the vehicle, which is thought to have cost around £110,000, was purchased during the pandemic for use in the spring 2021 Holyrood election campaign.

But it is understood the Niesmann + Bischoff motorhome was never used for that purpose after Covid restrictions were lifted by Ms Sturgeon.


That seems implausible to me, it's too small to work as a "battle bus", and a quick Google reveals rental rates for the very largest vans at about £100/day, or less than £5,000 for the whole campaign, probably far less if they can get a discount for the extended hire.
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Must have read my suggestion!
 
Now allegations are being investigated that Sturgeon, as leader, shut down efforts by the SNP National Executive Committee to install a senior manager to take over oversight of donations / subscriptions / funds and the allocation of such to party activities. I wonder why? Was that part of the CEO’s responsibility?

There is video and email evidence that she blocked such planned oversight and ordered that the recommendation be removed from an internal report prepared for the SNP NEC. The result was multiple resignations from various SNP positions, including the finance administration.

And recently it has emerged that the accountancy firm responsible for auditing SNP financial accounts resigned 6 months ago and they have not been able to appoint a replacement.

www.independent.co.uk

Nicola Sturgeon faces call to be suspended from SNP after fundraising leak

Leaked video shows former SNP leader angrily denying any problem with finances
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk
 
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Curiouser and curiouser!” Cried Nicola (she was so much surprised, that for the moment she quite forgot how to speak good English).” or did she know? That is the question.

Reading the piece above also begs the question, what did Ian Blackford know? His was another sudden departure!
 
Archibald Knox said:
Now allegations are being investigated that Sturgeon, as leader, shut down efforts by the SNP National Executive Committee to install a senior manager to take over oversight of donations / subscriptions / funds and the allocation of such to party activities. I wonder why? Was that part of the CEO’s responsibility?

There is video and email evidence that she blocked such planned oversight and ordered that the recommendation be removed from an internal report prepared for the SNP NEC. The result was multiple resignations from various SNP positions, including the finance administration.

And recently it has emerged that the accountancy firm responsible for auditing SNP financial accounts resigned 6 months ago and they have not been able to appoint a replacement.

www.independent.co.uk

Nicola Sturgeon faces call to be suspended from SNP after fundraising leak

Leaked video shows former SNP leader angrily denying any problem with finances
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk
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Salmond seems like a dubious character and his behaviour whilst first minister sounds questionable at best. However, during the court case where he was cleared, it appeared that there had been a plot by Sturgeon's gang to 'kill the king' so to speak. If there was such a plot it worked tbf, as Salmond, despite the not guilty verdict, is a tarnished figure and his Alba party are fringe at best.
It's a great opportunity for Labour to gain back some ground in Scotland - the SNP is starting to look like a criminal organisation.
 
Why on earth did Peter Murrell (CEO of the SNP for the last 20 years and Sturgeon’s husband) lend his employer £107,620 just two weeks after Sturgeon, pressured by internal enquiries, assured the NEC that party finances were healthy and threatened her committee members to stay quiet and not to say anything critical to anyone else? It seems a very precise sum for an ad-hoc loan and the timing is rather suspicious?

You would not catch me giving my employer an unsecured loan of that size, even if I had ten times the amount (which I don’t!). Unless, of course... might the loan have been secured by the luxury camper van? Hence it being seized by the police if ownership is in dispute?

Was the loan perhaps a very clumsy attempt to regularise the odd and secretive purchase of said luxury camper van, which benefited the SNP not one jot, but was sitting on Murrell’s mother’s drive for two years?

After potting Salmond semi-successfully, it appears that Sturgeon and Murrell regarded the SNP as their own personal fiefdom which seems to have raised hackles among other SNP ministers? Hence the questioning over financial transparency?
 
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Archibald Knox said:
Why on earth did Peter Murrell (CEO of the SNP for the last 20 years and Sturgeon’s husband) lend his employer £107,620 just two weeks after Sturgeon, pressured by internal enquiries, assured the NEC that party finances were healthy and threatened her committee members to stay quiet and not to say anything critical to anyone else? It seems a very precise sum for an ad-hoc loan and the timing is rather suspicious?

You would not catch me giving my employer an unsecured loan of that size, even if I had ten times the amount (which I don’t!). Unless, of course... might the loan have been secured by the luxury camper van? Hence it being seized by the police if ownership is in dispute?

Was the loan perhaps a very clumsy attempt to regularise the odd and secretive purchase of said luxury camper van, which benefited the SNP not one jot, but was sitting on Murrell’s mother’s drive for two years?

After potting Salmond semi-successfully, it appears that Sturgeon and Murrell regarded the SNP as their own personal fiefdom which seems to have raised hackles among other SNP ministers? Hence the questioning over financial transparency?
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All this started when SNP donors went to the police to find out where the £600,000 donations, supposedly ring-fenced for the next independence campaign, had disappeared too. More and more is coming to light daily. The resignations of those tasked with squaring the accounts happened ages ago but the SNP have been given an easy ride with little scrutiny by the media. It appears to be independence supporters themselves who have kick-started all this in frustration at the lack of any obvious attempts at taking it forward. Meanwhile, Scotland is in a mess internally. Just look at the ferry fiasco for an example.
 
SNP treasurer Beattie arrested by police today re investigation into the party's finances.Sky news breaking.
 
Big winner here is as others have suggested is possibly Labour. I think SNP is so heavily tarnished that even strong nationalists will be loathe to offer support
 
Beattie’s arrest sheds new light on the resignation of the previous Treasurer saying that he did not have the information to do his job, last autumn. Beattie was beaten in an election, then took over again after the resignation. This really isn’t looking good for the SNP.
 
tangysider said:
Big winner here is as others have suggested is possibly Labour. I think SNP is so heavily tarnished that even strong nationalists will be loathe to offer support
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I would hope so. Unfortunately, I think there are still too many people prepared to hold their noses whilst putting the X against the SNP candidate.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
I would hope so. Unfortunately, I think there are still too many people prepared to hold their noses whilst putting the X against the SNP candidate.
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This story will run and run I would guess, it's a steady drip, drip, drip of revelations which, like the UK government, gives an overall impression of sleaze and deceit. The nationalist vote, as a result, could be split between the SNP and Alba giving Labour a better chance of picking up a few seats.
 
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This story will run and run I would guess, it's a steady drip, drip, drip of revelations which, like the UK government, gives an overall impression of sleaze and deceit. The nationalist vote, as a result, could be split between the SNP and Alba giving Labour a better chance of picking up a few seats.
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Yep, this is bad news for the Tories, so good news for common decency.
 
Rumours are Sturgeon herself is next in the police's sights, which could raise questions over Yousaf's legitimacy as the "continuity candidate".
 
Lost Seasider said:
Rumours are Sturgeon herself is next in the police's sights, which could raise questions over Yousaf's legitimacy as the "continuity candidate".
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Sturgeon is bound to be arrested and interviewed under caution soon. She was one of the three approved signatories for SNP finances... along with Murrell and Beattie. But the cops will want to get this perfect in terms of procedure, no embarrassment over improper arrest etc, which is why it stretches out.

This is the way the police work on potential complex fraud cases... they start interviewing the small fry on the outside edges as purely witnesses, in order to build the case and finally move on the big fish at the centre treating them as suspects.

The SNP Gang of Three will be wriggling under questioning trying desperately to remember all their twists and turns and reasons for spending the cash. While the police will have already accumulated a fair mountain of evidence. I wonder who the chief grass will be? One of them may try it.
 
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And if Humza Yousaf becomes implicated... we get the traditional and historic moniker “The Gang of Four”.
(personally, I quite liked the band and their music)

But I reckon it might spread wider than that, with quite a few minor “enablers”.
 
Archibald Knox said:
Sturgeon is bound to be arrested and interviewed under caution soon. She was one of the three approved signatories for SNP finances... along with Murrell and Beattie. But the cops will want to get this perfect in terms of procedure, no embarrassment over improper arrest etc, which is why it stretches out.

This is the way the police work on potential complex fraud cases... they start interviewing the small fry on the outside edges as purely witnesses, in order to build the case and finally move on the big fish at the centre treating them as suspects.

The SNP Gang of Three will be wriggling under questioning trying desperately to remember all their twists and turns and reasons for spending the cash. While the police will have already accumulated a fair mountain of evidence. I wonder who the chief grass will be? One of them may try it.
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Also procedural Police work is different in Scotland to England
 
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