MOTD

Mark_GT said:
Watching this on playback. All pretty dull tbf. Give it Tuesday night vs Port Vale for me every time.
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I mainly watch it just to see what the pundits are wearing, Shearer’s white top with the lob sided collar was hideous, looked like he bought it on his hols in a Turkish market. Gary, no, no, no. sockless with white footwear, soooh 2015/16 dahling! Look forward to the rest of this season’s sartorial abominations!
 
Levi501 said:
I mainly watch it just to see what the pundits are wearing, Shearer’s white top with the lob sided collar was hideous, looked like he bought it on his hols in a Turkish market. Gary, no, no, no. sockless with white footwear, soooh 2015/16 dahling! Look forward to the rest of this season’s sartorial abominations!
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Yup - but will this finally see the demise of half zip knitwear?
 
Mark_GT said:
Yup - but will this finally see the demise of half zip knitwear?
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Hopefully, i charity shopped mine years ago. I always look forward to the big FA Cup games, when the serious suits and ties make an appearance, hardcore!
 
Levi501 said:
Hopefully, i charity shopped mine years ago. I always look forward to the big FA Cup games, when the serious suits and ties make an appearance, hardcore!
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My mum used to buy me one every Christmas from B&M. I could have opened a shop at one stage 😅
 
Threepeaksphil said:
I usually switch the sound off in between games. The standard of football is breathtaking and amazing to watch: the best league in the world
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The pace of games is insanely fast now. I wonder if any coach will ever go back to slow and measured. Probably too late now with all the sports science that is available.
 
If you watch tonight you'll see that Spurs will start with twice as many English players than Liverpool. Remarkably, Chelsea have more Englishmen starting than both Spurs and Liverpool put together.
 
philmus said:
The disallowed Everton goal was a joke.

VAR is destroying football.

As every season goes by I hate the Premier League more and more.
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Same.

It's absolute shit is VAR. It's made more issues than it solved and it's a product of self importance. 'Decisions have to be right because it's so important' - no, it's a ** game you loons and as long as the ref isn't bent, then we get on with it and make the best of it. 'Oh, but there's so much money riding on it' - literally, fuck off. It's a ** GAME. Kids play on parks all the time without any refs at all.

I've no problem with stuff that doesn't interfere with the actual flow of the game - touchline tech, or referring players for spitting or stamping that refs didn't see or whatever. That's fine. But VAR is madness. It's reducing the game to a paranoid state whereby what does and doesn't get referred is way more political than refs decisions ever were, there's no consistency and you have ever weirder debates going on for ** days and weeks about who drew what line where and all that.

It's all about making the TV viewer in a superior position to the actual matchday fan in my opinion so that the broadcaster can pore over those moments in super slow mo in a way the spectator in the stadium can't really appreciate (do they show them on the big screen, I don't know - but even if they do, you're often miles away)

You get fans in grounds staring at their sky go on their mobile phones trying to work out what happened in front of them - it's about the position of TV in the game and the need for it to be central because it's a source of money...

I reckon if you polled every football supporter in the country, there'd be a clear negative response to VAR. But I obviously don't know that for sure!
 
td53 said:
Same.

It's absolute shit is VAR. It's made more issues than it solved and it's a product of self importance. 'Decisions have to be right because it's so important' - no, it's a ** game you loons and as long as the ref isn't bent, then we get on with it and make the best of it. 'Oh, but there's so much money riding on it' - literally, fuck off. It's a ** GAME. Kids play on parks all the time without any refs at all.

I've no problem with stuff that doesn't interfere with the actual flow of the game - touchline tech, or referring players for spitting or stamping that refs didn't see or whatever. That's fine. But VAR is madness. It's reducing the game to a paranoid state whereby what does and doesn't get referred is way more political than refs decisions ever were, there's no consistency and you have ever weirder debates going on for ** days and weeks about who drew what line where and all that.

It's all about making the TV viewer in a superior position to the actual matchday fan in my opinion so that the broadcaster can pore over those moments in super slow mo in a way the spectator in the stadium can't really appreciate (do they show them on the big screen, I don't know - but even if they do, you're often miles away)

You get fans in grounds staring at their sky go on their mobile phones trying to work out what happened in front of them - it's about the position of TV in the game and the need for it to be central because it's a source of money...

I reckon if you polled every football supporter in the country, there'd be a clear negative response to VAR. But I obviously don't know that for sure!
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Said from Varday one, a ludicrous new addition to footy rules, it still relies on human interpretation however one looks at it.
 
Levi501 said:
Said from Varday one, a ludicrous new addition to footy rules, it still relies on human interpretation however one looks at it.
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Absolutely. Back in the day, there was such a concept as 'level' - i.e. if an offside call was tight, you weren't arsed. You accepted that if there wasn't day light, then it could go either way. It's completely binned that off and that's no good in a chaotic game.

People say 'ah, but it will rid us of the howlers' - I've got an idea for that - give every team ONE VAR appeal that the manager can play PER SEASON - they wave a big flag or whatever. The game stops - the ref comes over and asks what the objection is (maybe going back 60 seconds maximum). If the VAR can back that up inside 45 seconds, then the manager gets to keep the card and can play again. If they can't (i.e. it's a close call or unclear) then you lose that card and you've no more appeals for the entire season.

At least then (like in Cricket where it works fine) there'd be an element of sporting strategy about it.

As it is, the random eye in the sky - nah, it's like having a director walk on stage and making the actors redo lines or rework a scene - yeah, technically the scene COULD be better for it, but the whole flow of the drama is destroyed.
 
td53 said:
Absolutely. Back in the day, there was such a concept as 'level' - i.e. if an offside call was tight, you weren't arsed. You accepted that if there wasn't day light, then it could go either way. It's completely binned that off and that's no good in a chaotic game.

People say 'ah, but it will rid us of the howlers' - I've got an idea for that - give every team ONE VAR appeal that the manager can play PER SEASON - they wave a big flag or whatever. The game stops - the ref comes over and asks what the objection is (maybe going back 60 seconds maximum). If the VAR can back that up inside 45 seconds, then the manager gets to keep the card and can play again. If they can't (i.e. it's a close call or unclear) then you lose that card and you've no more appeals for the entire season.

At least then (like in Cricket where it works fine) there'd be an element of sporting strategy about it.

As it is, the random eye in the sky - nah, it's like having a director walk on stage and making the actors redo lines or rework a scene - yeah, technically the scene COULD be better for it, but the whole flow of the drama is destroyed.
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Bob on, re one var appeal. 2 examples of the VAR interpretation in the same game today, Saleh’s ‘goal’ chalked off for a little fingernail (level) offside, whilst the Chelsea ‘goal’ was chalked off for a full body offside!
 
100 percent agree on the atmosphere killer that is var. As for motd, must admit I'm enjoying tonight's show more. I think that's down to the presenters. The personable Chappers, Danny Murphy so much better than dull dull dull Shearer, Shay Given the best player we never quite signed.
 
Mark_GT said:
100 percent agree on the atmosphere killer that is var. As for motd, must admit I'm enjoying tonight's show more. I think that's down to the presenters. The personable Chappers, Danny Murphy so much better than dull dull dull Shearer, Shay Given the best player we never quite signed.
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Surely that's the lad Ollie always bangs on about who went to Juve?
 
Mark_GT said:
100 percent agree on the atmosphere killer that is var. As for motd, must admit I'm enjoying tonight's show more. I think that's down to the presenters. The personable Chappers, Danny Murphy so much better than dull dull dull Shearer, Shay Given the best player we never quite signed.
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We thought Chappers was looking a bit on the skinny side tonight.
 
Wizaard said:
One given for striking an elbow at point blank range, then Declan Rice does a shovel pass back to the keeper and that's OK.
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It devalues every other type of goal and the purpose of the whole game to give a penalty for that.
We’ve seen similar in World Cup Finals already.
They have to bring back the concept of accidental handball surely?
I don’t understand why people in and around the game are just accepting it.
 
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