Maybe we should go back to try and get Liam Rosenior

tangerine_neil said:
I know people will make the comparison of us just missing out on top 6 and calling for Critchley to go, but it really isn’t the same.
LR has turned Hull into a really entertaining, footballing unit.
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…and nominated for championship manager of the year. I wonder if it’s partly him not liking the budget for next year.
 
Let’s see what the 12th of June brings,Sadler might have to sell,who knows,he’s on record saying if the right person/s come along he will sell.But he’s also on record saying it is not for sale,so what do we believe.
 
EdgeleyTangerine said:
Rosenior turned us down because of our budget. We would have no hope of getting him now because our budget is smaller and he’s just proven himself to be a very good championship manager,

The expectation on here can sometimes be very unrealistic!
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Well maybe just maybe we need to increase our budget so we can compete at the top end of this league as the current strategy certainly isn't working that well
 
He really wanted to come to us as well after his interview. Shame much bigger clubs will be after him now.
 
That's a mental decision. Hull granted missed out on top 6 but they play really good possession based attacking football. Pretty much the exact thing we all hoped for but haven't got. Critch ain't going anywhere but he would be a great appointment now as he would have been then. That fcuk up not getting him last pre season paved the way for a season brimmed full of fcuk ups leading to relegation.
 
PNENIL said:
LR will go on to bigger and better things than Hull City. I was gutted when he seemed nailed on for us and it didn't happen. Major turning point for us as a club and probably the first really poor decision from SS. He's made some more since but that started it all off.
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I thought Rosenior had turned us down. There was speculation he’d used us to get a better deal from Derby.
 
EdgeleyTangerine said:
Yes, let’s just chuck loads of money at it and hope we have some success. That has never caused any financial issues at any other clubs….
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Ahh the old default of chuck money at it myth

You were probably saying the same thing when Oyston didn't spend in the Premier League
 
I’d love to see him at Blackpool (Won’t happen though) … I think Hull may live to regret this (a bit like Birmingham did with Eustace) probably a victim of his own success
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
League one will be tougher next season

For a start there aren't two clubs with a points deductions then there is the new money into Wrexham, Wycombe and Birmingham

Make no mistake unless we have a go we will be left behind
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I totally agree. I think Charlton will be competitive as will Wigan and Reading. Mansfield will be hard to beat and Rotherham look like they are going to come out swinging. I strongly agree with your final para. Play offs should have been a shoe in for us this season.
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Ahh the old default of chuck money at it myth

You were probably saying the same thing when Oyston didn't spend in the Premier League
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Not really. Our relegation from the prem was a direct result of not spending anything and the owners taking as much money out of the club as possible. Relegation was ultimately a blessing in disguise as it eventually started the process for the removal of the oystons.
 
traffordtang said:
I thought Rosenior had turned us down. There was speculation he’d used us to get a better deal from Derby.
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What actually happened who knows but it was going to happen and didn't. Massive mistake not to get it over the line , for me as sure a thing as you could get at the time of being a successful appointment. How they can listen to Rosenior and eventually give it to Appleton is ridiculous. A mistake we are still paying for now and I very rarely criticise Simon Sadler.
 
PNENIL said:
What actually happened who knows but it was going to happen and didn't. Massive mistake not to get it over the line , for me as sure a thing as you could get at the time of being a successful appointment. How they can listen to Rosenior and eventually give it to Appleton is ridiculous. A mistake we are still paying for now and I very rarely criticise Simon Sadler.
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Appleton suddenly appeared out of nowhere possibly giving rise to the assumption Rosenior had turned us down and the Appleton appointment was to save face. Suppose we’ll never know the truth, but I think he was the only name mentioned then or since that really got fans excited and united.
 
EdgeleyTangerine said:
Rosenior turned us down because of our budget. We would have no hope of getting him now because our budget is smaller and he’s just proven himself to be a very good championship manager,

The expectation on here can sometimes be very unrealistic!
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So meet in the middle or keep wasting five million a year treading water? That real enough for you?
 
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Phil_bfc deux said:
Well maybe just maybe we need to increase our budget so we can compete at the top end of this league as the current strategy certainly isn't working that well
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Steady on Phil or you’ll have the happy clappers on your back telling you how many zillions SS has put into the club. As if he came into it thinking he was going to make money. Although I think he’s now finding it a bit rich for his blood.
 
Theoneandonly said:
So meeting the middle keep wasting five million a year treading water? That real enough for you?
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How much do you think we should spend? What happens if, after spending many more millions, we are still in league one. What’s the solution at that point? I’m all for investment and improving the squad, etc but it has to be realistic. Let’s not also forget the spending on the infrastructure which isn’t exactly cheap.
 
EdgeleyTangerine said:
How much do you think we should spend? What happens if, after spending many more millions, we are still in league one. What’s the solution at that point? I’m all for investment and improving the squad, etc but it has to be realistic. Let’s not also forget the spending on the infrastructure which isn’t exactly cheap.
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I wouldn’t spend with this manager because he’s proven himself to be a coach not a manager.

I’d spend a budget that would put us in the top six for the division. Infrastructure has no priority until we are in the championship. What we know is that as is we’re going nowhere next season.
 
EdgeleyTangerine said:
How much do you think we should spend? What happens if, after spending many more millions, we are still in league one. What’s the solution at that point? I’m all for investment and improving the squad, etc but it has to be realistic. Let’s not also forget the spending on the infrastructure which isn’t exactly cheap.
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I will tell what wasn't realistic and that was trying to complete the Championship on the cheap with no fit for purpose defensive midfield players

You simply don't buy a football club unless you are willing to invest in it
 
I’d happily take LR as manager. Even if we didn’t make the playoffs next season you can guarantee that the football would be a lot more entertaining than watching Critchball
 
Theoneandonly said:
I wouldn’t spend with this manager because he’s proven himself to be a coach not a manager.

I’d spend a budget that would put us in the top six for the division. Infrastructure has no priority until we are in the championship. What we know is that as is we’re going nowhere next season.
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So what would your “budget” be? If we had beat Reading we would have finished in the top 6 so there is an argument that the current budget is sufficient.

Infrastructure has no priority? We could increase the capacity of the stadium to contribute towards a higher budget and a better training ground could attract a better quality of player and help bring our own players through who could then be sold for a profit.

We faced years of chronic underfunding from the oystons and now we have an owner willing to spend on and improve the infrastructure of the club for the long term.
 
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