Loyalty to Simon Sadler and from Simon Sadler is what is needed now.

Would leave them to it,read somewhere Mansford was confident the foundations had been laid before he left Leeds and they are now in the PL. It wont happen overnight or a few weeks like some woud want.
 
Stanah said:
Clearly all those losing faith have never been involved in a turnaround project..

Results in any business that require change are rarely instant, they take time to get people to embrace the changes, gain confidence in them and implement them fully before they are embedded in habit and start to produce positive results.

I disagree with all those who say you should knee jerk into more change, keep faith with your philosophy and work through the pain.
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Football isn't just "any business".

And a turnaround project (as you like to call it) requires a spark of light. How can you have faith when we never change or attempt to change the losing format?
 
Rektseasider said:
If someone’s about to drive you off a cliff edge, you’re probably going to ask them what they’re doing. Especially when they’ve missed a few opportunities to change direction.
Your protestations are going to get louder and more quizzical the closer you get to the edge and the more opportunities they miss to turn off and avoid the cliff edge.

If they don’t turn the wheel in enough time you’re likely to think you’ll crash and dive out of the car thus saving yourself.

If they do turn the wheel and you both survive and travel down a different road, you’ll likely say “thank god you turned the car around, this is better than falling off that cliff”.

The more chances to turn we miss will increase the voices asking why we’re not changing direction from the cliff edge.
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I agree with what you're saying, but what is the correct action to bring about change?
Look at what is going wrong and fix it internally, or burn the whole thing to the ground again.

At this moment in time I think the best thing is to work with what we have and look to resolve the issues that clearly exist; we can't just keep firing managers and building new teams every transfer window.
 
Rektseasider said:
If someone’s about to drive you off a cliff edge, you’re probably going to ask them what they’re doing. Especially when they’ve missed a few opportunities to change direction.
Your protestations are going to get louder and more quizzical the closer you get to the edge and the more opportunities they miss to turn off and avoid the cliff edge.

If they don’t turn the wheel in enough time you’re likely to think you’ll crash and dive out of the car thus saving yourself.

If they do turn the wheel and you both survive and travel down a different road, you’ll likely say “thank god you turned the car around, this is better than falling off that cliff”.

The more chances to turn we miss will increase the voices asking why we’re not changing direction from the cliff edge.
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A poor analogy

A better analogy would be go for a walk with a novice who has no sense of direction, when you are making tough headway towards your destination, you listen to them and change direction to keep them happy, will you ever get where you want to be?
 
BlackpoolsFinest said:
There is nothing wrong with screaming for change if the time is right and absolutely necessary.

I would argue that wanting the managers head after 6 games of a clearly long term project is not that correct time.
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Short term, you want stability- it isn't there and doesn't look like it will be.

Medium term, you want progress and long term, success.

I don't think the stability part is something NC can achieve. I'm not calling for his sacking for a number of reasons, a couple being the larger Club picture and another that it will be hard to bring in a manager as you'd assume the 'long term' isn't really what a manager wants given he knows he does well he gets poached, he fails, he gets a nice pay off. Not mentioning the potentials that turned down the project in the summer.

Just somebody (who??) grab hold of the problem and sort it out.
 
fcblackpool said:
Short term, you want stability- it isn't there and doesn't look like it will be.

Medium term, you want progress and long term, success.

I don't think the stability part is something NC can achieve. I'm not calling for his sacking for a number of reasons, a couple being the larger Club picture and another that it will be hard to bring in a manager as you'd assume the 'long term' isn't really what a manager wants given he knows he does well he gets poached, he fails, he gets a nice pay off. Not mentioning the potentials that turned down the project in the summer.

Just somebody (who??) grab hold of the problem and sort it out.
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I also genuinely think if we pot Critchley and begin looking for our 4th manager in 18th months, plenty of potential managers won't touch us with a barge pole.
You just know that if someone comes in and doesn't immediately turn around the fortunes and sustain it, the exact same thing will happen again.

I've said it before and I'll keep saying it, I don't know when so many of our fans became so precious.
We have been utter shite for easily 23 or so of the last 30 years I've watched us, where has this sense of entitlement now come from amongst some of our fans?

We would never have achieved anything we did under McMahon, Grayson or Holloway if the fans had been carrying on back then like they do nowadays.
 
BlackpoolsFinest said:
I agree with what you're saying, but what is the correct action to bring about change?
Look at what is going wrong and fix it internally, or burn the whole thing to the ground again.

At this moment in time I think the best thing is to work with what we have and look to resolve the issues that clearly exist; we can't just keep firing managers and building new teams every transfer window.
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Well, you have to see if there is anything worth salvaging from what you currently have. Players - yes I think so, Club Management - Possibly, player and coaching acquisitions is still in the balance, but the commercial side of the club is the best it's ever been. Ownership - is brilliant.

The problem as I see it is, what's produced on the pitch is a million miles away from our stated aims and objectives, like Stanah said it's the start of a new era so do you have to give it time, yes I'd say you do. However if something is actually harming the new era (in this case the formation and style of play) and that harm could lead us to drop a division, surely you have to replace that part of things for something that a. works and b. adapts if it isn't working.

So the big question is now how much time do you give it to adapt or evolve to succeed?


Stanah said:
A poor analogy

A better analogy would be go for a walk with a novice who has no sense of direction, when you are making tough headway towards your destination, you listen to them and change direction to keep them happy, will you ever get where you want to be?
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Well the end of the season will tell us if it's a poor analogy or not.

If the person you're going for a walk with comes to you before hand and says they have a gold plated map, and have worked with the best ramblers for a few years it probably seems a great thing to go for a walk with them to the top of a mountain.

If after a few miles you realise that the map is a knock off photocopy and its smearing in the rain, you now appear to be walking sideways in the wrong direction and its actually taking you slowly down hill I think you'd say, "hey mate why are we walking sideways down hill? I thought we were going up hill"?

He then says "No honestly it's ok. The steps just come thick and fast you've just got to keep going, I had a really good stride a few minutes ago it'll be alright"

You might give him a funny look.
 
Finest McMahon used to get pelters on here- I defended him- people calling him McMoan and oddly some of those became influential. Grayson got the same, from me too, because he had a worse record that Hendry until Parkes came in.

Fans just want to see some sort of idea that they know what they are doing.
 
Rektseasider said:
Well, you have to see if there is anything worth salvaging from what you currently have. Players - yes I think so, Club Management - Possibly, player and coaching acquisitions is still in the balance, but the commercial side of the club is the best it's ever been. Ownership - is brilliant.

The problem as I see it is, what's produced on the pitch is a million miles away from our stated aims and objectives, like Stanah said it's the start of a new era so do you have to give it time, yes I'd say you do. However if something is actually harming the new era (in this case the formation and style of play) and that harm could lead us to drop a division, surely you have to replace that part of things for something that a. works and b. adapts if it isn't working.
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At this point I'd be willing to give this a fair few more games yet, relegation is still a long way off.
So, if after another 8 or so games there wasn't marked improvement in performances with results following I'd be looking in to bringing in an experienced coach to work alongside Critch.
It would have to be clear from the start that whoever it was would be someone who he trusted implicitly so the threat of this hired help taking his job didn't exist.

We are undoubtedly in a very tricky place at the moment, one which could be immediately resolved should we see an upturn in performances; what worries me is that I don't think we're seeing enough to suggest it will all fall in to place any time soon.

I hope I'm wrong.
 
fcblackpool said:
Finest McMahon used to get pelters on here- I defended him- people calling him McMoan and oddly some of those became influential. Grayson got the same, from me too, because he had a worse record that Hendry until Parkes came in.

Fans just want to see some sort of idea that they know what they are doing.
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There was of course fans who gave them grief, such is football, but I'm convinced they were never as vocal or in such high numbers as what we're seeing now.

Maybe we have the O's to thank for not succumbing to the pressure of firing them.
 
Maybe all just trust in Saddler and what he is trying to do and show some fookin patience as he turns round what was a car crash of a club,
Too many know it alls now that think they are far more important than they are.
 
I've watched every game we've played so far - the players are obviously good or they wouldn't be playing football for a living so I am not knocking them for one minute, however League one is better than people think and maybe our boys as a group are just not up to it.
I hope they can turn it round but it's hard to see how - I was much more confident that we'd get a result last year than this, worrying.
 
Insider said:
As disappointed as am I with lots of aspects of Critchley and his team and the performances on the pitch it's too soon for a change. That's my head ruling my heart btw.
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Insy, imagine the conversation.

Ben, we need to change things.

I know, I know.

Suggestions? Oh hang on! You and the HoR f'd this one up.

Yeah, but it looked promising and absolutely the right way to go.

So how do I trust you now?

Err....

That conversation isn't happening.

More like-

Ben, we need to change things.

Too damn right! Neil is out of his depth. Leave it to me and I'll come up with names that can help Neil, because believe me Sadders he WILL come good. I'll explain to Neil this is a bridge thing we're doing and he'll be great.

Thanks Ben, I knew all those hours on EA's DoF 2021 would come in useful. Oh, and do we need more custard creams for the boardroom?

Err, I'll check in the DoF manual.
 
I think the 1st scenario is more likely:

Ben, we need to change things.

I know, I know.

Suggestions? Oh hang on! You and the HoR f'd this one up.

Yeah, but it looked promising and absolutely the right way to go.

So how do I trust you now?
Get me Insider's number and shut the door on your way out.
 
BlackpoolsFinest said:
At this point I'd be willing to give this a fair few more games yet, relegation is still a long way off.
So, if after another 8 or so games there wasn't marked improvement in performances with results following I'd be looking in to bringing in an experienced coach to work alongside Critch.
It would have to be clear from the start that whoever it was would be someone who he trusted implicitly so the threat of this hired help taking his job didn't exist.

We are undoubtedly in a very tricky place at the moment, one which could be immediately resolved should we see an upturn in performances; what worries me is that I don't think we're seeing enough to suggest it will all fall in to place any time soon.

I hope I'm wrong.
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I think what you say has merit, in that he may just need more time. I’m not completely writing him off yet. 6 points in the next two games and He’d have probably shown me and all of us he’s making it work.

Where id disagree is the appointment of a coach to help him. I’m not sure what another coach is going to be able to do with out under mining him and the club admitting they advertised all this as something it wasn’t.

Also didn’t we make that decision rightly or wrongly already by brining Garrity in? I think I’m right in saying that was NC’s choice, so you can’t have it both ways. You have to live or die with your decisions in professional life.


I’m probably slightly more hawkish than you currently (again I could be wrong here and hope I am), largely due to the fact of what I’ve seen on the pitch. Personally this has been far worse than any of the other ‘shaky’ starts we’ve had.

Believing in what your doing is something I can admire. But there must come a point if it’s not working, where you realise this and adapt. I’d say we’re a couple of weeks away from that point, and NC or the people above him will have to act.
 
Wasn’t NC third choice? What makes some of you think some experienced L1/championship manager will ride in on a white horse and save us ? You do realise it could go disastrous wrong again and we go again. What’s the point ffs there’s no guarantees in football.
 
Rektseasider said:
I think what you say has merit, in that he may just need more time. I’m not completely writing him off yet. 6 points in the next two games and He’d have probably shown me and all of us he’s making it work.

Where id disagree is the appointment of a coach to help him. I’m not sure what another coach is going to be able to do with out under mining him and the club admitting they advertised all this as something it wasn’t.

Also didn’t we make that decision rightly or wrongly already by brining Garrity in? I think I’m right in saying that was NC’s choice, so you can’t have it both ways. You have to live or die with your decisions in professional life.


I’m probably slightly more hawkish than you currently (again I could be wrong here and hope I am), largely due to the fact of what I’ve seen on the pitch. Personally this has been far worse than any of the other ‘shaky’ starts we’ve had.

Believing in what your doing is something I can admire. But there must come a point if it’s not working, where you realise this and adapt. I’d say we’re a couple of weeks away from that point, and NC or the people above him will have to act.
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Rekt.
We are still a coach down because we never replaced Dunn. There is a world of difference between a coach and a number 2 though, of course.
 
Insider said:
Rekt.
We are still a coach down because we never replaced Dunn. There is a world of difference between a coach and a number 2 though, of course.
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Garrity is the number two, “Assistant Head Coach”

Dunn’s relationship with the club was a bit of an odd one from what I’ve heard.

Not being obtuse but I’m not sure what another coach brings?
 
In the glory days of Holloway, Steve Thompson brought a lot to the party as a coach (and No.2). I don't know what Garrity skills are but his background would suggest he's similar to Critchley. I'm probably being harsh but I do wonder if Garrity is just a "yes" man.
I think Critch needs someone to question him and a Coach with a strong personality could do that.
I can't see it happening though because, if what Charlie's says about Critch is true, he doesn’t even want experienced players in the changing room.
Sadler/Mansford putting someone in would just cause even more disruption.
So for the time being we just have to trust Critchley to get it right.
 
Hazi said:
Maybe all just trust in Saddler and what he is trying to do and show some fookin patience as he turns round what was a car crash of a club,
Too many know it alls now that think they are far more important than they are.
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Exactly Hazi 👍🏼 About time the critics looked at their own lives and realised none of us are perfect but would we accept others criticising us like we do football employees???
 
Martonmosser said:
From us as fans to stop questioning and criticising everything that is going on behind the scenes and from Simon to Neil Critchley to give him all the support he needs to turn things round. Unless any of us suddenly turn up with £20 million to put where our mouths are I suggest we get on with supporting our team where possible and getting on with enjoying our own lives cos all the moaning in the world isn’t going to make a difference.
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Sorry don't agree you have your opinion and i have mine .
The criticism is founded the signing are woefully poor none have a goalscoring record.
Take a look at Wikipedia stats and tell me where the goals will come from ??
Unless we get proven goalscorer in at this level we will be around the bottom of the table this season.
 
Martonmosser said:
Exactly Hazi 👍🏼 About time the critics looked at their own lives and realised none of us are perfect but would we accept others criticising us like we do football employees???
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What on earth is this post all about?

Mine nor anyone else’s life has got sweet f all to do with our thoughts on the current state of Blackpool FC.

I think you’ve missed the point of a message board.

I’m not even sure you understand your own thread. No one to a man has shown disloyalties to Sadler, far from it.

If the last decade has shown us anything it’s that we as fans have a duty to hold the custodians of the club to account over the handling of the club.

Now this has to be within reason of course, and if you take out the odd WUM, the critics of the current showings on the pitch, are very measured, very reasoned and quiet rightly asking some questions of the current affairs.

No ones mentioned Sadler‘s handling of the club.
 
Rektseasider said:
What on earth is this post all about?

Mine nor anyone else’s life has got sweet f all to do with our thoughts on the current state of Blackpool FC.

I think you’ve missed the point of a message board.

I’m not even sure you understand your own thread. No one to a man has shown disloyalties to Sadler, far from it.

If the last decade has shown us anything it’s that we as fans have a duty to hold the custodians of the club to account over the handling of the club.

Now this has to be within reason of course, and if you take out the odd WUM, the critics of the current showings on the pitch, are very measured, very reasoned and quiet rightly asking some questions of the current affairs.

No ones mentioned Sadler‘s handling of the club.
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Probably have missed or more likely got fed up with the point of this fans message board when it mainly seems to consist of habitual moaners trying to bring others down. FFS it’s not as if any of you had a spare £20 million lying around several months ago to save the club you’re all supposed to love 🙄 Sadlers handling of the club comes down to every football employee who works there and posters like you only seem to want to pull them apart.
 
Martonmosser said:
Probably have missed or more likely got fed up with the point of this fans message board when it mainly seems to consist of habitual moaners trying to bring others down. FFS it’s not as if any of you had a spare £20 million lying around several months ago to save the club you’re all supposed to love 🙄 Sadlers handling of the club comes down to every football employee who works there and posters like you only seem to want to pull them apart.
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Yeh ok none of us have £20 million quid laying around therefore it’s all null and void.

Winning argument that.

Sorry I even bothered you.
 
TwelveAngryMen said:
It’s natural for fans to question what’s going on when we play the way we have been doing pretty much since the start of the season and when it’s so far removed from the vision we’ve been sold
Indeed I’d suggest it would be very weird if we were not to
As it stands the performances are a cause of great concern - no doubt to Critch and the Board as much as to us not least because the opposition gets a whole lot tougher as we move towards Xmas
There’s a lot of money been spent seemingly for little or no tangible return right now - indeed in the short term at least we appear to have regressed
Something isn’t right - be it selection, recruitment, motivation, tactics or the direction being given to the players
The club as a collective need to address the core issues and address them quick otherwise we will find ourselves in a very perilous position by Xmas
Blind faith that things will change for the better if we keep doing the same things we are doing now isn’t I’d suggest an option
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Correct, it simply isn’t what we expected and it isn’t working. I can’t see someone with the success in business Simon Sadler has had, letting it carry on without at least giving Critchley timescales to get things right.
 
Insider said:
In the glory days of Holloway, Steve Thompson brought a lot to the party as a coach (and No.2). I don't know what Garrity skills are but his background would suggest he's similar to Critchley. I'm probably being harsh but I do wonder if Garrity is just a "yes" man.
I think Critch needs someone to question him and a Coach with a strong personality could do that.
I can't see it happening though because, if what Charlie's says about Critch is true, he doesn’t even want experienced players in the changing room.
Sadler/Mansford putting someone in would just cause even more disruption.
So for the time being we just have to trust Critchley to get it right.
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That’s my issue...There’s not one but two kids coaches at the helm.
Their ideas don’t work in League One...at least I doesn’t like it.
 
clappers said:
It might not be working yet...but Sadler is the man for us👍
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Let's hope it stays that way. As I said elsewhere it must be nigh on impossible to properly run a FC from abroad; he simply can't pull someone aside, like a shop employee, a player, even the asst. coach and have an 'off the record' chat. So in that respect it can't be easy to get to the feeling around the Club.
 
Rektseasider said:
What on earth is this post all about?

Mine nor anyone else’s life has got sweet f all to do with our thoughts on the current state of Blackpool FC.

I think you’ve missed the point of a message board.

I’m not even sure you understand your own thread. No one to a man has shown disloyalties to Sadler, far from it.

If the last decade has shown us anything it’s that we as fans have a duty to hold the custodians of the club to account over the handling of the club.

Now this has to be within reason of course, and if you take out the odd WUM, the critics of the current showings on the pitch, are very measured, very reasoned and quiet rightly asking some questions of the current affairs.

No ones mentioned Sadler‘s handling of the club.
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But fans questioning everything Mansford should be sacked Tommy Johnson got to go Sack Critch and his assistant and get rid of all the woefully poor players, is not helping Saddler who has ultimately put this team of staff together. If at Christmas no signs of improvement then that would be the time to question and I am sure Saddler will. I just think after still a relatively short period to re build the club with a disruptive pandemic thrown in, we should all get behind the team and do our bit rather than crank up the pressure every game which can’t be helping such a young team and coaching staff.
 
BigHandsOliverKahn said:
I think one thing people are overlooking is that we don't have a MANAGER. We have a COACH. The model at the club is different nowadays and you don't just get rid of a coach so quickly as it takes time to coach and improve players.
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So a manager is responsible for results but a coach isn't? In that case who is responsible for results? The owner? The fans?
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Exactly Hazi 👍🏼 About time the critics looked at their own lives and realised none of us are perfect but would we accept others criticising us like we do football employees???
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Like it or not, their lives are played out in the spotlight. You will never get away from that.
Hazi said:
But fans questioning everything Mansford should be sacked Tommy Johnson got to go Sack Critch and his assistant and get rid of all the woefully poor players, is not helping Saddler who has ultimately put this team of staff together. If at Christmas no signs of improvement then that would be the time to question and I am sure Saddler will. I just think after still a relatively short period to re build the club with a disruptive pandemic thrown in, we should all get behind the team and do our bit rather than crank up the pressure every game which can’t be helping such a young team and coaching staff.
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That's the theory but all football fans don't work or think like that. As I said on another post it's fine and acceptable to lavish praise when things are going well so by the same token it's only fair that constructive criticism can be made when things aren't going well which is clearly the case now. I think you have to find the right balance. Clearly talk of sackings is way too premature but I think you yourself should be able to distinguish between the nonsense posted against some peoples valid concerns.
 
Many posters are saying that it's too soon to think about sacking, implying that some want NC sacked.
I agree, however is he too short sighted to see that he definitely needs help from an older, wiser head?
I think he needs help.
 
Hazi said:
But fans questioning everything Mansford should be sacked Tommy Johnson got to go Sack Critch and his assistant and get rid of all the woefully poor players, is not helping Saddler who has ultimately put this team of staff together. If at Christmas no signs of improvement then that would be the time to question and I am sure Saddler will. I just think after still a relatively short period to re build the club with a disruptive pandemic thrown in, we should all get behind the team and do our bit rather than crank up the pressure every game which can’t be helping such a young team and coaching staff.
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Well I agree with you that just shouting about sackings is pointless. But only a few have done that, rightly or wrongly.

I will always support the Manager and the boys during a match, like 99% of us do we always want BFC to succeed.

However in between matches, and we may differ here I don’t think it’s our job to just blow smoke up the clubs arse without thought. Similar to what 20’s has just posted, the last ten years have shown that if we think somethings going bad we need to raise and discuss it.

To our point, the showings on the pitch have been atrocious to date. So every Saturday or Tuesday night I’m still 100% behind man and manager, but between these I feel we should all be able to comment on tactical deficiencies, lessons not learned and strange comments from the manger. Don’t you think that between games this should be the case?

Probably where we differ is, I think in the next 3/4 weeks we’ll have to have seen some major improvements for him to still warrant his place as head coach.

You might think 2/3 months, which is fair enough that’s your opinion and thoughts, something which Mosser forgot other people are welcome to with out being slated.

Time will only tell which opinion turned out to be right, I hope I’m wrong.
 
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Rektseasider said:
Well I agree with you that just shouting about sackings is pointless. But only a few have done that, rightly or wrongly.

I will always support the Manager and the boys during a match, like 99% of us do we always want BFC to succeed.

However in between matches, and we may differ here I don’t think it’s our job to just blow smoke yo the clubs arse without thought. Similar to what 20’s has just posted, the last ten years have shown that if we think somethings going bad we need to raise and discuss it.

To our point, the showing on the pitch has be atrocious. So every Saturday or Tuesday night I’m still 100% behind man and manager, but between these I feel we should all be able to comment on tactical deficiencies, lessons not learned and strange comments from the manger. Don’t you think that between games this should be the case?

Probably where we differ is, I think in the next 3/4 weeks we’ll have to have seen some major improvements for him to still warrant his place as head coach.

You might think 2/3 months, which is fair enough that’s your opinion and thoughts, something which Mosser forgot other people are welcome to with out being slated.

Time will only tell which opinion turned out to be right, I hope I’m wrong.
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Hard to argue with this post. Bizarre that people think we are not allowed to post our opinions about the club on a fans forum.

If we were top of the league, people on here would be rightly praising everybody. However, we're not, so we are discussing the reasons we think this might be the case and whether we think it will get any better. It doesn't mean we don't support the club, far from it.
 
RossendaleSeasider said:
Hard to argue with this post. Bizarre that people think we are not allowed to post our opinions about the club on a fans forum.

If we were top of the league, people on here would be rightly praising everybody. However, we're not, so we are discussing the reasons we think this might be the case and whether we think it will get any better. It doesn't mean we don't support the club, far from it.
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The word agenda was used at me the other day. Like a flashback to the old days!
 
Results alone are enough for there to be questions raised about Critchley. The fact his style of play is woeful and getting worse are another. Thankfully I'm not the owner or CEO as I'd already be making it clear both results and performances need to improve and quickly. The next 2 games to be precise.
 
BigHandsOliverKahn said:
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So what are you saying then? Let's face it your post was a load of bollux. Manager or Coach does it matter what the title is? Critchley is responsible for coaching and managing the team and the buck stops with him in terms of results.
 
20togo said:
So what are you saying then? Let's face it your post was a load of bollux. Manager or Coach does it matter what the title is? Critchley is responsible for coaching and managing the team and the buck stops with him in terms of results.
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Try reading again what I put.
 
BigHandsOliverKahn said:
Try reading again what I put.
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I did, many times. Point remains the same. Manager or coach doesn't matter what the title, he's responsible for results and can be sacked at any time if the owner sees fit to do so. Your post suggested that because he's a coach he'll be given longer than if he was a manager. And that's a load of bollux.
 
Well that's where I think you are wrong because buying younger players and players who did well in the league below and putting them on long-term contracts together with recruiting the best qualified coach we could find all suggests a long term approach that the club are going for and you seem unable to see the difference between that and an old fashioned manager who gets sacked if they don't immediately do well.
 
BigHandsOliverKahn said:
Well that's where I think you are wrong because buying younger players and players who did well in the league below and putting them on long-term contracts together with recruiting the best qualified coach we could find all suggests a long term approach that the club are going for and you seem unable to see the difference between that and an old fashioned manager who gets sacked if they don't immediately do well.
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Don't think I'm wrong at all. We'll see anyway - or hopefully not because I want him to turn things round.
But if I'm not mistaken most of the Leagues across Europe operate with coaches not managers. Isn't manager a term quite unique to the British game. And plenty of coaches get sacked quickly enough in Europe. Like I've said somewhere else I'd be surprised if Sadler would be prepared to accept relegation as part of "the long term project".
 
Nice definition of the difference here:

"A manager has complete control over his staff, transfers and player contracts unless, of course, they're working under a meddling owner. While a head coach just trains and picks the team, with the owner or director of football taking the pressure off them by dealing with the rest."

So there is more responsibility on the role of a manager so more of a stick to beat them with if they get it wrong, hence why managers will always fired quicker than coaches.
 
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