It was a ham sandwich he was eating surely, hence the confusion?Is it true hes got a hammy?
He was in the lower concourse with fans chanting his name at ht, having some pics. He told some fans he had a hammy :(
He told me it was hamstringIt was a ham sandwich he was eating surely, hence the confusion?
He's only just got himself fit.
If it is, then how many is that now, another player with an injury record...
Is that 3 he's had now? Looks like another who we've signed who's looks great and gets going and then gets another setback.He told me it was hamstring
It’s the way he plays. I’ve said numerous times that he needs to be told not to dive in when closing but realise it’s the space not the ball he’s after.Is that 3 he's had now? Looks like another who we've signed who's looks great and gets going and then gets another setback.
Lavery is an asset to the club, a goalscorer, developing player and a lad with a great attitude, we need to renew his contract asap. Our loss would be someone else's gain.Another Anderson, 8 games a season, get rid in the summer.
If it's gone he wouldn't be in the stand surely.But is it 'a bit tight', or has it properly pinged? Doubt it if he was cavorting with fans at half time. It's the difference between a couple of games and a couple of months (minimum)
I’ve heard very similar from another physio. He said the modern day footballer is pushed in training almost too hard . Muscles , tendons etc are already at their limit so when that extra effort is required there is simply no slack and something has to give . Of course, some players are just more susceptible to these type of injuries.Understandably, when it comes to preparation and conditioning, clubs push their players to the limit to try and maximise their physicality.
But do the physios unwittingly push them too far?
CAGU posted a few months ago about how a top physio about to go into Newcastle was confident he could reduce their soft tissue injuries by 2/3rds.
"He said hamstring injuries are caused by back and pelvic problems and all the gym work and weights are the main cause."
Don't know how that panned out, but maybe we could do with a reassessment of how we balance our conditioning methods.
Blackpool Hamstring injuries
Played in a golf match today against Paul Showler who played against Pool in the Bradford play off when big Sam was our manager. Had a good career in the lower leagues and non league before becoming a widely acclaimed physio. He’s working with a number of Premier League clubs and going into...avftt.co.uk
With regards to how Newcastle have fared, from the weekend papers they have a bit of an injury crises with 10 players listed as injured, two with hamstring injuries. The papers suggest one contributing factor may be the extra demands of champions league football.Understandably, when it comes to preparation and conditioning, clubs push their players to the limit to try and maximise their physicality.
But do the physios unwittingly push them too far?
CAGU posted a few months ago about how a top physio about to go into Newcastle was confident he could reduce their soft tissue injuries by 2/3rds.
"He said hamstring injuries are caused by back and pelvic problems and all the gym work and weights are the main cause."
Don't know how that panned out, but maybe we could do with a reassessment of how we balance our conditioning methods.
Blackpool Hamstring injuries
Played in a golf match today against Paul Showler who played against Pool in the Bradford play off when big Sam was our manager. Had a good career in the lower leagues and non league before becoming a widely acclaimed physio. He’s working with a number of Premier League clubs and going into...avftt.co.uk
Yep. Keshi Anderson is blighted with them.I’ve heard very similar from another physio. He said the modern day footballer is pushed in training almost too hard . Muscles , tendons etc are already at their limit so when that extra effort is required there is simply no slack and something has to give . Of course, some players are just more susceptible to these type of injuries.
Nonsense comment !Another Anderson, 8 games a season, get rid in the summer.
Only if he keeps getting injured, his record since he joined us has been terrible and he clearly has an issue, we can't carry a player so he can play 10 games a season and the rest his hamstring has gone. It was the same with Anderson, great player but was always injured and is injured at Brum. So it isn't a nonsense comment at all. A fully fit, injury avers Lavery would be great but he isn't and has the rest of this season to prove it won't keep happening, in about 10 weeks when he is match fit again.Nonsense comment !
More tripe. Have some patience. Show some loyalty. Empathy ? Support ? These are people, not disposable items. 10,000 people with similar attitudes and we would have no players, or club. Luckily these shallow ideas are in a huge minority.Only if he keeps getting injured, his record since he joined us has been terrible and he clearly has an issue, we can't carry a player so he can play 10 games a season and the rest his hamstring has gone. It was the same with Anderson, great player but was always injured and is injured at Brum. So it isn't a nonsense comment at all. A fully fit, injury avers Lavery would be great but he isn't and has the rest of this season to prove it won't keep happening, in about 10 weeks when he is match fit again.
So you would have kept Anderson, Stewart etc., then? We'd be bankrupt if we kept every injured player. It's a business not a charity.More tripe. Have some patience. Show some loyalty. Empathy ? Support ? These are people, not disposable items. 10,000 people with similar attitudes and we would have no players, or club. Luckily these shallow ideas are in a huge minority.
Played him again a couple of weeks ago in an Inter Counties Scratch League, he plays off 1 handicap but wasn’t quite good enough againUnderstandably, when it comes to preparation and conditioning, clubs push their players to the limit to try and maximise their physicality.
But do the physios unwittingly push them too far?
CAGU posted a few months ago about how a top physio about to go into Newcastle was confident he could reduce their soft tissue injuries by 2/3rds.
"He said hamstring injuries are caused by back and pelvic problems and all the gym work and weights are the main cause."
Don't know how that panned out, but maybe we could do with a reassessment of how we balance our conditioning methods.
Blackpool Hamstring injuries
Played in a golf match today against Paul Showler who played against Pool in the Bradford play off when big Sam was our manager. Had a good career in the lower leagues and non league before becoming a widely acclaimed physio. He’s working with a number of Premier League clubs and going into...avftt.co.uk
Only if he keeps getting injured, his record since he joined us has been terrible and he clearly has an issue, we can't carry a player so he can play 10 games a season and the rest his hamstring has gone. It was the same with Anderson, great player but was always injured and is injured at Brum. So it isn't a nonsense comment at all. A fully fit, injury avers Lavery would be great but he isn't and has the rest of this season to prove it won't keep happening, in about 10 weeks when he is match fit again.
That's good of you to look that up and it's more than I expected, it seems like he has been injured and out far more than that. He is out for a second time this season with a hamstring injury and it is his option year I think so he needs to make sure that he isn't going to be out a lot of the season. I did say: "A fully fit, injury averse Lavery would be great" I'm just saying that if he is going to have a problem with a consistent injury then they have a decision to make, but I was wrong about the games he played.According to Wikipedia, he's played 78 games in 2 and bit seasons, hardly 10 games a season!
Did he walk with a grimace or a limp! Not that I'd expect anyone to ask a player for their complete medical history but can't believe those who spoke to him didn't ask for a better prognosis!But is it 'a bit tight', or has it properly pinged? Doubt it if he was cavorting with fans at half time. It's the difference between a couple of games and a couple of months (minimum)
More tripe. Have some patience. Show some loyalty. Empathy ? Support ? These are people, not disposable items. 10,000 people with similar attitudes and we would have no players, or club. Luckily these shallow ideas are in a huge minority.
Likelihood of recurrence increases the more tears your have. At some stage tendon surgery needs to be considered. Caveat - I’m not an orthopaedic specialist.Anyone explain the science behind hamstrings and whether some people are potentially more susceptible to an injury?
I have played in 11 a side football for years (and am 38) and I’ve known a few tight hamstrings but have never known players be unavailable the way that ours are.
This reminds me that since Jerry left, I feel that we’re missing the pressing side of our game. Even Lescott had a couple of sprints at the Morecambe keeper last night. We need more energy like Critch mk I had.When fit he also provides us with a decent press which Rhodes & KK don’t I’ve no idea if Joseph when fully fit can do the same.
Would agree with that and can’t see Joseph being like for like or Swansea wouldn’t have let him go.This reminds me that since Jerry left, I feel that we’re missing the pressing side of our game. Even Lescott had a couple of sprints at the Morecambe keeper last night. We need more energy like Critch mk I had.
Maybe it’s a valid point that a couple on here have made. That being we are not firing on all cylinders for the full 90mins due to our recent uncertainty regarding injuries- it probably puts the players off.
I agree ...thus Herts could have been far kinder with his words saying similar... Just " bin him " is not only callous, it' s going to impact on the player. Players read this board, and comments like this just serve to impact on their confidence and commitment. I think that after 30yrs of service ( thank you ) you would be looking forward to some peace and quiet rest.You can be one of the most sympathetic, empathetic, selfless, loyal, supportive people in the world, but . . . what Herts says isn't borne out of any malice towards what is a very likeable individual, who also happens to be a decent player on his day, but an inevitable and sensible operational and business decision. If he can't do the job then there's an inevitability he will (and should) be moved on with everybody's best wishes. It may sound cold and hard and also cause upset to some, but if you aren't willing to pay his wages then I don't reckon Mr Sadler will either.
And from my own personal perspective twice in my working life I've found myself in this very same position. First time as a soldier I sustained injuries which hindered my ability to do my job so was given a letter with a simple "Services no longer required" notification. 2nd time again due to another injury (caused I might add by repetitive strain) and after nearly 30 years loyal service I was told that if I could no longer do my job they could sack me.