Jerrys value 4 million ?

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A lot of reports going around saying his value is now 4 million..States an offer has been turned down, one post saying it was for 2.5 million. Would we be happy with 4 million for him🤔. For me depends on his attitude because if he was happy to stay I think keep him for a promotion push next season, if it doesn’t work out we could still sell him in 12 months time for a decent amount. Not sure how you replace him without spending big money!
 
The problem is that it's really difficult tempting quality players to L1 however much money the club has. Probably more likely to invest in 3 or 4 "lesser" players.
 
Having Jerry Yates in the team in league one makes it significantly more likely we bounce back up at the first attempt imo. Promotion is worth, what, £7m? It'll also be more with the new TV deal I think. So I personally wouldn't sell. But if we are to sell, it has to be at least £4m, and tbh with the money available in the championship it probably should be more than that.
 
Murciaseasider said:
The problem is that it's really difficult tempting quality players to L1 however much money the club has. Probably more likely to invest in 3 or 4 "lesser" players.
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You're right.
Brutal, clumsy L1 defenders could potentially finish Jerry's career with one tackle. I think he'll want the big pay day at this stage of his career and will want to play in the Championship.
If he goes, I'll be sad but pleased for him, as he's been a star and a character.
 
585 = never give up said:
You're right.
Brutal, clumsy L1 defenders could potentially finish Jerry's career with one tackle. I think he'll want the big pay day at this stage of his career and will want to play in the Championship.
If he goes, I'll be sad but pleased for him, as he's been a star and a character.
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We stalled on CA when he wanted, away in Jan window, his performances dipped for several weeks. If he, wants to go to a Championship team and the money is right, it would be best to let him go with our blessing
 
We'll probably sell if the player wants to leave to play at a higher level, although as a few have posted, I'd rather he stayed and we built a team that gives him decent service.

But it's our supposed "model ", in which case 4m is the minimum we should be asking for
 
For all we know, he maybe happy to stay. Give us at least a year to see if we get back up and if not, maybe then will be the time for him to leave. He will be 27 by then so still in his prime.

If he goes then the very minimum I hope we accept is 4 million.
 
Just read the report from the Sun.

Luton, Ipswich, WBA, Coventry and Bristol City all keen.

If the reports are true then I’m happy we’ve turned down the £2.5m offer.

He’s a goal scorer that has proved himself in the championship and they don’t come cheap.
 
4m not a bad starting point, with the clubs involved (especially with Luton or Cov being in the Prem) then I am confident we might be able to get 6m, which IMO we'd have to accept.

Getting 6m would more than triple our current budget.
 
If it’s at all possible, and he can be persuaded to stay, keep him. Finding a striker with his energy will be impossible in league one, and he could be crucial in getting us straight back up. On that basis it’s worth turning down £4/5 million and upping his pay. Plus, it would be a huge statement of intent from Simon. A lot depends on the choice of manager.
 
Devonshire said:
A lot of reports going around saying his value is now 4 million..States an offer has been turned down, one post saying it was for 2.5 million. Would we be happy with 4 million for him🤔. For me depends on his attitude because if he was happy to stay I think keep him for a promotion push next season, if it doesn’t work out we could still sell him in 12 months time for a decent amount. Not sure how you replace him without spending big money!
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So we may as well keep him. That's if Jerry wants to stay of course.
 
Middxile said:
It’s the wages Jerry can earn if he moves to a bigger Club. Ollie Turpin reckoned that his money nearly doubled when he moved to Udders.
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Tbf Turton signed for us under the Stains so his salary wouldn’t have really reflected the current structure. That being said if Jerrry gets a move I imagine he’ll be able to command a 5 figure weekly salary possibly even into the high teens in the Championship and we won’t be able to get anywhere near that in League 1
 
1950`spoolfan said:
If effort and commitment are what he is valued for then he`s worth £10 million but if he`s valued purely on skill alone barely a tenth of that amount.
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Agree with the first half of that but the second half is nonsense. He’s a good technical player and gets into great positions. If he plays with better players who can actually see his movement he scores and creates lot more goals.
 
LA1 Seasider said:
Agree with the first half of that but the second half is nonsense. He’s a good technical player and gets into great positions. If he plays with better players who can actually see his movement he scores and creates lot more goals.
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In terms of heading ability ,ability to beat a man, pace or finishing skills he`s nothing special. Decent at penalties though.
 
1950`spoolfan said:
In terms of heading ability ,ability to beat a man, pace or finishing skills he`s nothing special. Decent at penalties though.
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He’s only short but he scores his fair share of headers… and that’s in a team that can’t cross a ball ! He does best his man too - but in this rubbish team he’s often playing far too deep for that ability to beat a man to result in chances on goal. He lacks any real pace but he’s not slow. He’s physical despite being slight. And I imagine if you looked at the number of goals to actual chances created he does brilliantly.

But.. it’s a game of opinions so fair enough. £4 millions a steal for whoever gets him. £6 would be a bargain. I think his true value is £8-10 personally. Considering what PNE have got for some of their better players over the years and from what Peterborough constantly seem to command even in League 1 for their better forwards.
 
Agree with most of these comments and IF and its a big IF, 4 million for an established championship striker is what the Blackpool are after it seems a bit cheap to me. His age means a club could sign him for 3/4 years and still sell him towards the end of his contract, and how many goals could he score with better players supporting him🤔 not too much to ask for at least 6 million.
 
Has anyone factored in that the player himself will want to leave.

Double or treble his weekly wage, playing at a higher level.

We can all say he loves the fans which I’m not doubting he does, but ultimately he’ll be looking after himself financially and can set himself up for life with a decent move. It’s fantasy land stuff thinking players think about the Club like fans do. He deserves to play at a higher level & ultimately our model lends itself to us cashing in and reinvesting. (This is where the fun starts on our recruitment)

With all that in mind, the Club can hold out for a price they want but if the player wants out they have less sway. It’s very rare now that players don’t want to leave teams for leagues above and more money, unless we are trying to sign them 😬
 
Adams Kebab said:
Has anyone factored in that the player himself will want to leave.

Double or treble his weekly wage, playing at a higher level.

We can all say he loves the fans which I’m not doubting he does, but ultimately he’ll be looking after himself financially and can set himself up for life with a decent move. It’s fantasy land stuff thinking players think about the Club like fans do. He deserves to play at a higher level & ultimately our model lends itself to us cashing in and reinvesting. (This is where the fun starts on our recruitment)

With all that in mind, the Club can hold out for a price they want but if the player wants out they have less sway. It’s very rare now that players don’t want to leave teams for leagues above and more money, unless we are trying to sign them 😬
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Yeah, tbf I don't mind players going, that is our model afterall.

But it's all about the recruitment.

Get it right and it's the best way to advance our squad far quicker that we could have done before.

For eg 4 million could get us a 1.5m, 1.25m and a 750k player, with a bit going towards wages maybe.

If we've got that recruitment right it can better the team overall.

Can't remember how much Jerry cost, obviously everything we do is undisclosed, but I don't think it was big amounts.

So if we can repeat that but with more expensive players, it can work very well if done correctly.

There's also some good free agents etc, Madine for eg.
 
Devonshire said:
A lot of reports going around saying his value is now 4 million..States an offer has been turned down, one post saying it was for 2.5 million. Would we be happy with 4 million for him🤔. For me depends on his attitude because if he was happy to stay I think keep him for a promotion push next season, if it doesn’t work out we could still sell him in 12 months time for a decent amount. Not sure how you replace him without spending big money!
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Sell - he was Division top scorer in Nov and didn’t score a league goal for 4.5 months

Anything near £4M would be good
 
Adams Kebab said:
Has anyone factored in that the player himself will want to leave.

Double or treble his weekly wage, playing at a higher level.

We can all say he loves the fans which I’m not doubting he does, but ultimately he’ll be looking after himself financially and can set himself up for life with a decent move. It’s fantasy land stuff thinking players think about the Club like fans do. He deserves to play at a higher level & ultimately our model lends itself to us cashing in and reinvesting. (This is where the fun starts on our recruitment)

With all that in mind, the Club can hold out for a price they want but if the player wants out they have less sway. It’s very rare now that players don’t want to leave teams for leagues above and more money, unless we are trying to sign them 😬
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I’ve no doubt he will want to move on for the reasons you have stated.

But you have to look at Posh and them keeping Clarke-Harris.

He scored 31 in league one and then 12 the following season in Championship. Similarish to Yates over the two years but they managed to keep him. He’s arguably a better goalscorer than Yates.

I’m about 95% sure he will move on this summer but I hope we have the ambitions to keep him in a bid to bounce back up at the first time of asking.

It might take us offering an improved deal with incentives and make him the club captain (why not?).

If we fail to get promoted then he can be free to go.

I just hope if we do sell then we use that money wisely and get two or three players that can improve us.

We don’t know where his head is at and what discussions he’s held with the club.
 
At 7 million it would be decent business, anything less if he's happy to stay I think the new coach could build a team around him, if I was Simon I'd consider incentives to keep him at the club.
 
AmericanTangerine said:
4m not a bad starting point, with the clubs involved (especially with Luton or Cov being in the Prem) then I am confident we might be able to get 6m, which IMO we'd have to accept.

Getting 6m would more than triple our current budget.
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Well I hope that Sadler remembers to fund recruitment with the fantasy £6 million because he did fuck all with the money from the Bowler sale and the compo from the snakes departure.
 
Ipswich fans are saying that they have had a bid of £2.5 million accepted, but like most of the crap they spout it should be taken with a pinch of salt.
 
Black265 said:
Ipswich fans are saying that they have had a bid of £2.5 million accepted, but like most of the crap they spout it should be taken with a pinch of salt.
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We may have made some bad decisions in the last 12 mths, but I'm pretty confident we won't have accepted £2.5m for him. In a good team, he's a 20 goal championship striker, and you can't expect to get one of those for that kind of money. It's a case of clubs trying it on because we're seen as a small club soft touch bargain dispenser.
We are now seeing why it was a good decision to give him a new four year deal when we were promoted, way before his old deal ran out. That's the kind of good medium/long term decision making we need to return to. Recognising potential and ensuring we get the most out of it, both on the pitch and if/when they're sold. We really need to be looking at doing the same for Lavery and Carey imo - two players who don't have long left and will be sought after if we have a good season next season. I know a lot of people are critical of Carey in particular, but a season in league one alongside a couple of new recruits (hopefully) will do him a lot of good I think in terms of his development and confidence.
 
Lost Seasider said:
But then how many £1.5m players transfer to L1 clubs?
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Plenty if you pay then right, we could utilise the Scottish market, abroad, or just other league 1 clubs for eg top talent.

We'll be competitive in league 1 wages and if we wanted to use a bit of the 4m to bump wages a little higher we could.
 
JJpool said:
Plenty if you pay then right, we could utilise the Scottish market, abroad, or just other league 1 clubs for eg top talent.

We'll be competitive in league 1 wages and if we wanted to use a bit of the 4m to bump wages a little higher we could.
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Will Grigg to Wigan for £1m, and then Sunderland for £3m, but both clubs were getting PL parachute payments at the time.

John Brayford to Sheffield United for £1.5m, Britt Assombalonga to Peterborough, Jose Fonte to Southamption, these were all ~10 years ago though.

Anyone else?

Also, what do you mean by "pay them right"? Do you really think the club is going to stretch into £20,000 p/w territory in L1 when that's double what they were paying in the Championship?
 
Lost Seasider said:
Will Grigg to Wigan for £1m, and then Sunderland for £3m, but both clubs were getting PL parachute payments at the time.

John Brayford to Sheffield United for £1.5m, Britt Assombalonga to Peterborough, Jose Fonte to Southamption, these were all ~10 years ago though.

Anyone else?

Also, what do you mean by "pay them right"? Do you really think the club is going to stretch into £20,000 p/w territory in L1 when that's double what they were paying in the Championship?
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Have you seen the going rate for good players from league 1 clubs these days for eg or elsewhere. 1.5m may be needed, We'll still have to operate somewhat within our budget clearly.

But using some of the money gained could help fund wages a little higher to attract the better talent.

Not sure why you're getting in a twist about the numbers as it was an eg.

Of course we could get some of the best league 1 talent or elsewhere with it and use a bit of the money gained to make our highest possible wages even more than they would be.
 
Our best post Oyston signings have been...

Young EPL cast offs like Josh, Grimmy, Connolly.
L2/National League types like Marv, Jerry and Keshi. Carey maybe.
Lyons and Lavery from Ireland
Out of contract cast off Championship types like Thorniley, Dougall, Madine.
Loans like Sterling, Wintle, Ronan, KDH, Rogers, Patino.

Not all world beaters but all contributed. We aren't going to pay big fees so these are the likely sources.
 
Hopefully SS (or the transfer negotiator) holds firm for a more upfront transfer fee rather than the structured transfer of Bowler for example (where we prob will never see the majority of £ from clauses that won’t be met).
£3-3.5 million up front with some add ons
 
1950`spoolfan said:
If effort and commitment are what he is valued for then he`s worth £10 million but if he`s valued purely on skill alone barely a tenth of that amount.
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So you haven't seen some of the technique and quick feet Jerry has used for many of the goals he's scored.
I score Jerry 10/10 you I score more of a 5/10 seeing as you were only half right 😶
 
If Jerry gets sold it's highly unlikely the money will go on any kind of quality replacement. The money will help fund next season. Bit like the Ditchley and Bowler money last season 😕
 
Don't know much about him but weren't we linked with Lee Bonis last month? Quite a few clubs are sniffing after him aswell now..£300k is the asking price
 
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