If Schools are back soon would it be feasible for Teachers

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Memphisboy

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To offer to reduce their 7 week summer holiday so kids can catch up a little bit. A fortnight in the summer should suffice which when added to the normal holidays is still comfortably more than the average Joe.

The education of the kids should take precedence and with the majority of teachers having been at home on full pay the last few months it’d be a nice gesture.
 
Out of curiosity what have the essential workers kids been learning whilst attending ? Will the rest of the kids have to catch up or have they been just playing PlayStation and not learning ? Genuine question before I’m savaged by the usual suspects.
 
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Government announced the science today behind why they believe the kids should go back.
Did anyone see the report from Copenhagen- virologist stated even he was surprised that it has had almost zero impact on their R rate and that’s without the kids really distancing properly.
They’ve now got both juniors and seniors back at school.
 
It would be a grand gesture and something kids and parents would appreciate. There’s going to be no foreign travel so holidays shouldn’t be affected and the kids have had their break early so will be raring to go. Come on teachers what do you say?
 
Think its up to the kids to catch up,read books,ask mummy & daddy,go on internet and learn or get left behind. Although kids have it easier re exams,how much easier do they want it.
 
Memphisboy said:
To offer to reduce their 7 week summer holiday so kids can catch up a little bit. A fortnight in the summer should suffice which when added to the normal holidays is still comfortably more than the average Joe.

The education of the kids should take precedence and with the majority of teachers having been at home on full pay the last few months it’d be a nice gesture.
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I wish someone had told my lad he should have been off with full pay!!!
 
My ex wife’s a teacher and been off since March, it’s a skeleton staff in to cater for the children of key workers....
 
Scaramanga said:
Out of curiosity what have the essential workers kids been learning whilst attending ? Will the rest of the kids have to catch up or have they been just playing PlayStation and not learning ? Genuine question before I’m savaged by the usual suspects.
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A bit of everything. Some learning and a bit more extra curriculum type stuff.
But, children at home are meant to be being home schooled so there shouldn’t be much difference when they all return, supposedly 🤔
 
Memphisboy said:
To offer to reduce their 7 week summer holiday so kids can catch up a little bit. A fortnight in the summer should suffice which when added to the normal holidays is still comfortably more than the average Joe.

The education of the kids should take precedence and with the majority of teachers having been at home on full pay the last few months it’d be a nice gesture.
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** clueless aint ya?
 
My missus has been in a fair bit even though she's on the ' FOC ' training year ( which I still maintain is outrageous )
Who the hell works for a year with no pay 😕
 
That’s what we like to hear FY8 a reasoned response to a genuine proposal. We’ve already had 2 replies confirming most teachers haven’t been doing much. Yes I’m thinking outside the box a bit here and yes probably doing it for the kids I may be coming across as a tad precious, but why can’t it be done? You get one chance at school.
 
Maybe those doing very little are working in schools that aren't performing and without the proper guidance from the top

If I was teaching a class I'd like to think I'd work out a way to keep teaching them not picking up my pay for doing nothing

More importantly if I was managing these teachers - I'd make them do it
 
I have worked every school day since lock down. Setting work for every timetable lesson, marking and commenting on the work produced. Responding to numerous e-mails from students. We have had video meetings for departments and year teams on a weekly basis just the same as we would have had in school. We have contacted parents about concerns over work or well being as we would have done in school. At this time of year we have curriculum reviews, schemes of work to modify, new guidance from Ofsted to fit in to our planning all of which is taking place as normal. Admittedly my pastoral contact with my form has been 4 days rather than 5 in the week.
I am absolutely looking forward to the opportunity to meet up with my year 10 and 12 students after half term, more important I believe for reassurance that they will be fine than for other purposes at this time. At that age the students understand the ideas of social distancing so unlike primary teachers I am not over worried on that score.
Anyway, the point is that teachers have continued to work throughout this period, unlike the lies that the Daily Mail have been spreading. The vast majority of students (I would estimate about 80% of my students have been working and have kept up with the curriculum.) It has been less stressful because there are no confrontations with those students that don't engage (an e mail is not the same as being there) but it has been work and pretty much full time work at that.
So No. Teachers should not lose their summer holidays. Students too, need breaks in the learning process (not as long as the archaic 6 weeks in summer in my opinion to be honest) but that is an issue for national policy for many years without ever reaching a conclusion.
 
catinstalbans said:
I have worked every school day since lock down. Setting work for every timetable lesson, marking and commenting on the work produced. Responding to numerous e-mails from students. We have had video meetings for departments and year teams on a weekly basis just the same as we would have had in school. We have contacted parents about concerns over work or well being as we would have done in school. At this time of year we have curriculum reviews, schemes of work to modify, new guidance from Ofsted to fit in to our planning all of which is taking place as normal. Admittedly my pastoral contact with my form has been 4 days rather than 5 in the week.
I am absolutely looking forward to the opportunity to meet up with my year 10 and 12 students after half term, more important I believe for reassurance that they will be fine than for other purposes at this time. At that age the students understand the ideas of social distancing so unlike primary teachers I am not over worried on that score.
Anyway, the point is that teachers have continued to work throughout this period, unlike the lies that the Daily Mail have been spreading. The vast majority of students (I would estimate about 80% of my students have been working and have kept up with the curriculum.) It has been less stressful because there are no confrontations with those students that don't engage (an e mail is not the same as being there) but it has been work and pretty much full time work at that.
So No. Teachers should not lose their summer holidays. Students too, need breaks in the learning process (not as long as the archaic 6 weeks in summer in my opinion to be honest) but that is an issue for national policy for many years without ever reaching a conclusion.
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You’re the exception obviously Cat you take the full 7 weeks. I’d rather they be home schooled than have to endure extra weeks with you influencing them.
 
TwelveAngryMen said:
Maybe those doing very little are working in schools that aren't performing and without the proper guidance from the top

If I was teaching a class I'd like to think I'd work out a way to keep teaching them not picking up my pay for doing nothing

More importantly if I was managing these teachers - I'd make them do it
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There working on a skeleton staff basis for the key workers children that are still in schools.... nothing to do with getting pay for doing nowt etc....most children are at home....
 
TwelveAngryMen said:
Maybe those doing very little are working in schools that aren't performing and without the proper guidance from the top

That’s a fair comment. My lad (13) has been provided work - not loads from his school - approx 2 hours a day, which he does.... But we got an email from the school last week saying they were suspending home learning for a week so other pupils can catch up. Also bear in mind it’s half term next week, therefore it’s pretty much 2 weeks where he won’t have had any meaningful work to do.
I appreciate it’s not an easy situation for everyone but some schools are getting this right a lot more than others.
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Agree TAM, teachers will do what the top heavy, ie 2 assistant heads, 1 deputy head, 1 head these days, say £250k + pension and NI costs, (Roseacre in the 60's had Mr Roberts, and if that wasnt enough, Mr Harris with his flying blackboard duster) management tell them to do, otherwise they get managed by HR procedures, sometimes maliciously. Its always been the same, problems in the workforce begin with problems with the management, in any organisation.
 
catinstalbans said:
I have worked every school day since lock down. Setting work for every timetable lesson, marking and commenting on the work produced. Responding to numerous e-mails from students. We have had video meetings for departments and year teams on a weekly basis just the same as we would have had in school. We have contacted parents about concerns over work or well being as we would have done in school. At this time of year we have curriculum reviews, schemes of work to modify, new guidance from Ofsted to fit in to our planning all of which is taking place as normal. Admittedly my pastoral contact with my form has been 4 days rather than 5 in the week.
I am absolutely looking forward to the opportunity to meet up with my year 10 and 12 students after half term, more important I believe for reassurance that they will be fine than for other purposes at this time. At that age the students understand the ideas of social distancing so unlike primary teachers I am not over worried on that score.
Anyway, the point is that teachers have continued to work throughout this period, unlike the lies that the Daily Mail have been spreading. The vast majority of students (I would estimate about 80% of my students have been working and have kept up with the curriculum.) It has been less stressful because there are no confrontations with those students that don't engage (an e mail is not the same as being there) but it has been work and pretty much full time work at that.
So No. Teachers should not lose their summer holidays. Students too, need breaks in the learning process (not as long as the archaic 6 weeks in summer in my opinion to be honest) but that is an issue for national policy for many years without ever reaching a conclusion.
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Well said & done Cat 👍
Although i do find it rather disgraceful you have to do all that graft. Wouldnt happen under Labour 😁
 
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