Fresh start next season needed

PR3BFC

PR3BFC

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This season was all about a bit of stability after the shit show of last season, a big summer is needed and with the right recruitment we could be up there next season and yes even with Critchley.

However, thanks for everything to the following but it’s time for a change:

Marvin - more down to the player wanting to leave at the end of his contract then us wanting rid

Connolly
Virtue
Carey
Lavery
Hamilton (difficult with his new contract)
Husband

Beesley is hanging on by a thread.
 
PR3BFC said:
This season was all about a bit of stability after the shit show of last season, a big summer is needed and with the right recruitment we could be up there next season and yes even with Critchley.

However, thanks for everything to the following but it’s time for a change:

Marvin - more down to the player wanting to leave at the end of his contract then us wanting rid

Connolly
Virtue
Carey
Lavery
Hamilton (difficult with his new contract)
Husband

Beesley is hanging on by a thread.
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Sadly these are some of the better players and there are more players who are utter garbage who will stay.
 
PR3BFC said:
This season was all about a bit of stability after the shit show of last season, a big summer is needed and with the right recruitment we could be up there next season and yes even with Critchley.

However, thanks for everything to the following but it’s time for a change:

Marvin - more down to the player wanting to leave at the end of his contract then us wanting rid

Connolly
Virtue
Carey
Lavery
Hamilton (difficult with his new contract)
Husband

Beesley is hanging on by a thread.
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They could all go for me, including Beesley. But if you add to that, Marv probably leaving and Byers, Coulson, Dembele and Rhodes all going back to their respective clubs, that's one hell of a recruitment drive needed.
 
Unfortunately most of our best players are loanees, bar a handful of our players I hope we can move the majority on, some just not good enough and some have been here too long and have stagnated. I know this season under Critchley hasn’t really helped anyone develop!
Can anyone provide a list of our players who are out of contract at the end of the season and can be let go and the contract situation of the others? Must admit I don’t keep abreast of these matters.
 
Wespens said:
The problem is we have a lot of this squad still with us next season. Would need a massive overhaul.
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Potentially with loans and contracts running down we could change 8 or 9 players, I would be happy for a couple of youth to be bench fillers, if that allows us to improve the quality in the squad.
 
You assume new players will come but assuming contract negotiations have been going on in the background ask yourself why are the decent players not signing ?Maybe they haven’t bought into the failed crap style of football Critchley forces them to play ! I’m afraid if he’s still here next year it will be same old boring lack of entertainment football so it won’t matter which players we have .
 
i understand what the o/p is saying and even though he may not mean it, is there an underlying message that because we need a big clear out and a big recruitment drive with many new players coming in. If that is the case, then for me that's not acceptable because it's saying the manager needs time to bed the new players in and get them playing the way he wants them to. And so come four or five months into the season excuses will be being made if we are not where we think we should be in the table. And so the circle continues.

This season simply hasn't been good enough and that's all down to the manager and the football he sends his team out to play.
 
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20togo said:
i understand what the o/p is saying and even though he may not mean it, is there an underlying message that because we need a big clear out and a big recruitment drive with many new players coming in. If that is the case, then for me that's not acceptable because it's saying the manager needs time to bed the new players in and get them playing the way he wants them too. And so come early four or five months into the season excuses will be being made if we are not where we think we should be in the table. And so the circle continues.

This season simply hasn't been good enough and that's all down to the manager and the football he sends his team out to play.
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Totally agree & makes it so much harder to comment on players this season. Absolutely needless & unacceptable if it does come to a massive overhaul of the squad & the deluded post match interviews begin again along the line of player's bedding in & becoming familiar to erm, the system 🙄
 
I can only think of two players in our squad who will be under contract next season that another club would possibly try to sign.
Massive overhaul needed in the summer, I thought the club would be run better than this under the new owner.
 
20togo said:
i understand what the o/p is saying and even though he may not mean it, is there an underlying message that because we need a big clear out and a big recruitment drive with many new players coming in. If that is the case, then for me that's not acceptable because it's saying the manager needs time to bed the new players in and get them playing the way he wants them too. And so come early four or five months into the season excuses will be being made if we are not where we think we should be in the table. And so the circle continues.

This season simply hasn't been good enough and that's all down to the manager and the football he sends his team out to play.
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Yep. This season was about challenging to get back up immediately. Instead we haven’t even challenged for a play off place. To be where we are with the results at home is criminal IMO and lies solely at the coach’s door.

If the players are so, so terrible that they all need clearing out immediately, how have we managed to get results at home?
 
When we talk about recruitment and renewing contracs and fresh starts…

We need to remember we gave CJ a 2.5 extension in December… there was no need to do that whatsoever at that time. He’d started the season poorly and had a spell of about 3-4 home games and Pompey away where he was good. This is a worry moving forward.
 
PR3BFC said:
This season was all about a bit of stability after the shit show of last season, a big summer is needed and with the right recruitment we could be up there next season and yes even with Critchley.

However, thanks for everything to the following but it’s time for a change:

Marvin - more down to the player wanting to leave at the end of his contract then us wanting rid

Connolly
Virtue
Carey
Lavery
Hamilton (difficult with his new contract)
Husband

Beesley is hanging on by a thread.
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This season was sod all to do with stability, it was to try and get back to the Championship ASAP. Whether that be through automatic or the playoffs and Neil Critchley's formations and tactics have failed miserably.
Three changes needed for next season, I'll leave it to you to work out who they are😉👍🏻
 
CJ, on his day can can terrifie opposition defences, he's an attacking winger not a fullback. He can't head a ball and can't tackle but his pace and running at defenders are his strength. As with the majority of the players Critchley sends out to follow his tactics he ends up looking out of place and lost.
You wouldn't have a bricklayer to plumb your bathroom.
I honestly believe most of the players we have played in their correct positions are more than capable of being a top team in leauge 1. As we all know and keep saying the problem is the manager and what he is doing and asking the players to do.
 
The easiest way to start is to ditch the manager rather than a shed load of players and take it from there. Although not as easy as that I'm sure someone else would get a better return from those players than we see now.
 
I actually think the players fo need to share some of the responsibility for a disappointing season.
This is not pro or anti Critch - he has had some good games and great results but there has been a real lack of consistency and to a large part,this is down to Critchley.

However we have many players who have not performed to their potential or maybe it was not there in the first place
 
fcblackpool said:
The easiest way to start is to ditch the manager rather than a shed load of players and take it from there. Although not as easy as that I'm sure someone else would get a better return from those players than we see now.
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If Critch does get ditched (fingers crossed) the players that are staying will need to be deprogrammed from his dull, lethargic,robotic, shite brand of football
 
Blackpool_Gaz said:
Right recruitment? The players ain't the problem.
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There are a significant number in the squad that aren't good enough for a top 6 place. We can put out a decent 11 with a couple of reasonable subs but the quality drops off in a big way.
 
I look forward to the day when we have a solid squad and only need to add two or three max heading into pre season.
It’s the same old sh-t rinse and repeat and will be the same again heading into next season where plenty will be leaving and plenty will be coming in and I don’t believe it’s healthy or the correct way to become a successful club.
 
We’ll win our remaining games, be in the playoffs and win promotion, so we will need to recruit accordingly, a new progressive manager, who plays to win would be a priority.
 
Matesrates said:
We’ll win our remaining games, be in the playoffs and win promotion, so we will need to recruit accordingly, a new progressive manager, who plays to win would be a priority.
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If that does happen there will be no way Simon would sack Neil!
 
We certainly don't want every season to start off with big noises about promotion and only championship football will do, followed by dull, boring, nick one if we can performances, then fail miserably to mount any sort of challenge because of the volume of losses that tactic brings, only to then start saying the new set of players need time to bed in, then at the end of the season start ret-conning it as "always going to be a season of consolidation" or worse blaming another new set of players for our inconsistency whilst the Emperor and his new coaching clothing line gets away with it once again. If Sadler allows this again, then he will start losing my support.
 
20togo said:
i understand what the o/p is saying and even though he may not mean it, is there an underlying message that because we need a big clear out and a big recruitment drive with many new players coming in. If that is the case, then for me that's not acceptable because it's saying the manager needs time to bed the new players in and get them playing the way he wants them to. And so come four or five months into the season excuses will be being made if we are not where we think we should be in the table. And so the circle continues.

This season simply hasn't been good enough and that's all down to the manager and the football he sends his team out to play.
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Blackpool_Gaz said:
Right recruitment? The players ain't the problem.
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Critchley isn’t faultless in all of this but I genuinely think (myself included at times) we think this squad is better than it is.

Who has had a constantly good season this season honestly?

Who has failed to deliver and not done anything special?

Sadly the second question would provide a longer list.

For the record, I wasn’t jumping for joy when Critch returned (Wellens was my choice, if only!) but I do feel we need better quality and if he gets that’s promotion is the aim next season otherwise he has to go.
 
Wizzerboy said:
This season was sod all to do with stability, it was to try and get back to the Championship ASAP. Whether that be through automatic or the playoffs and Neil Critchley's formations and tactics have failed miserably.
Three changes needed for next season, I'll leave it to you to work out who they are😉👍🏻
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Of course it was about stability after last seasons horror show.

Have a look how many teams go straight back up at the first go from L1…. It isn’t many mate.
 
PR3BFC said:
Of course it was about stability after last seasons horror show.

Have a look how many teams go straight back up at the first go from L1…. It isn’t many mate.
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No, it isn't many.
Doesn't mean to say we have to go with the flow.

It's like telling people it's millions to one to win the national lottery. Doesn't stop people trying does it.
 
PR3BFC said:
Critchley isn’t faultless in all of this but I genuinely think (myself included at times) we think this squad is better than it is.

Who has had a constantly good season this season honestly?

Who has failed to deliver and not done anything special?

Sadly the second question would provide a longer list.

For the record, I wasn’t jumping for joy when Critch returned (Wellens was my choice, if only!) but I do feel we need better quality and if he gets that’s promotion is the aim next season otherwise he has to go.
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Firstly, i never had a problem with Critchley. Thought he was the best man for the job. Why? Because he knew the club and he pretty much knew all the players because they'd played previously under him. You mention stability but why not ambition as well?. Why shouldn't we be good enough to go straight back up. Have a look at Rotherhams record. They don't seem to have a problem returning back up straight away. And we had the advantage that two of the teams coming down with us then had points deductions,

who has had a good season? Well to have a "constantly good season" you have to pick players and play them in a position which is their strongest. Does Critchley do that? I'd say no. Does he play a formation that suits the players he has? Answer is no he doesn't and players who are suited to a position he has often left out and put players in. Hw might want to model himself on Pep and he clearly does because it's all about possession football but he can'r seem to grasp that these aren't PL players. They haven't got the ability, the movement and everything else you need to be a top player. Hence why it's slow laboured possession football which more often that not ends with a hoof. There is just stacks and stacks of evidence all witnessed in pretty much most games. Have we improved as a team? Again, stats will show that no we haven't.

Let's not also forget that last season we hammered McCarthy on here for his ultra negative football which the players were simply not comfortable with! Although Critchleys brand of football is totally different to McCarthys it's still pretty much the same negative garbage with the team set up not to lose.

So back to your first line. "Critchley isn't faultless". That for me is a total under statement. Why? Because he is responsible for everything I've listed above. He's very much to blame forwhat to me is the most instantly forgettable season in a long time.
 
I genuinely look at our squad now and think meh!

Grimshaw, Gabriel, Pennington, Casey, Ekpiteta, Lyons, Morgan and Joseph are about all I'd keep and Marv will be off IMHO, who knows when Lyons will be back and what sort of player he will be. Massive, massive overhaul needed.
 
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