FAO SLO Policing tonight !

XBeds-Now-Kings_Meaburn

XBeds-Now-Kings_Meaburn

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Chaotic & nonsensical . 10 minutes they said . It was 52 minutes after the final whistle when the cordon was lifted !!

Silver commander for the Operation was superintendent Crow . I'll be finding his e-mail & writing to him . Maybe our SLO can help with that
 
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Don't expect to be sat on the coach for over half an hour before leaving, after being kept behind in Dumpdale for quarter of an hour!

Total unacceptable.
 
The Policing last night was “SHAMBOLIC”!!!

I really don’t think Lancashire Police gave much thought to hatching a “Plan”.

The communication between the Police appeared poor too!!
 
XBeds-Now-Kings_Meaburn said:
My mistake (now corrected) Maybe he should be demoted after last night
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Xbeds I've messaged you. I was at a Lancs Police briefing on this game a few weeks ago and Supt. Crowe reiterated what we'd heard before, that holdbacks are not desirable and never planned in advance but can get imposed dynamically if there is considered to be a serious threat to public safety on the day. I don't know what intel was used to trigger that decision last night. I'm sure there will be a debrief.
 
SLO_BFC said:
Xbeds I've messaged you. I was at a Lancs Police briefing on this game a few weeks ago and Supt. Crowe reiterated what we'd heard before, that holdbacks are not desirable and never planned in advance but can get imposed dynamically if there is considered to be a serious threat to public safety on the day. I don't know what intel was used to trigger that decision last night. I'm sure there will be a debrief.
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Maybe a more proactive approach, e.g. ask for comments to be sent to you. Collate them, and make representations prior to the debrief.
 
SLO_BFC said:
Xbeds I've messaged you. I was at a Lancs Police briefing on this game a few weeks ago and Supt. Crowe reiterated what we'd heard before, that holdbacks are not desirable and never planned in advance but can get imposed dynamically if there is considered to be a serious threat to public safety on the day. I don't know what intel was used to trigger that decision last night. I'm sure there will be a debrief.
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We were told that we would be held back about a week ago. We’ve discussed it prior to the game on this forum… So that’s a load of bollocks for starters.
 
SLO_BFC said:
Xbeds I've messaged you. I was at a Lancs Police briefing on this game a few weeks ago and Supt. Crowe reiterated what we'd heard before, that holdbacks are not desirable and never planned in advance but can get imposed dynamically if there is considered to be a serious threat to public safety on the day. I don't know what intel was used to trigger that decision last night. I'm sure there will be a debrief.
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No that's bollox. When they and others came here YOU said it was against human rights. Was that a lie then?
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
We were told that we would be held back about a week ago. We’ve discussed it prior to the game on this forum… So that’s a load of bollocks for starters.
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We were advised there would be a 'slight delay' (I think the phrase was) in opening up the 'sanitized area within the cordon). No mention of a holdback inside the stadium nor of a lengthy wait to get out of the cordon. Email me your feedback and I will collate. Like I said, there will be a de-brief.
 
SLO_BFC said:
We were advised there would be a 'slight delay' (I think the phrase was) in opening up the 'sanitized area within the cordon). No mention of a holdback inside the stadium nor of a lengthy wait to get out of the cordon. Email me your feedback and I will collate. Like I said, there will be a de-brief.
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It’s been public knowledge since at least Thursday that away fans would be held back after the game. It was clearly pre-planned well in advance (we had an announcement on the coach on our way there to remind us).

It’s no problem as far as I’m concerned… What is a problem is the continued peddling of bullshit, that these things are only ‘decided based on intelligence on the day’.

Let’s just have a bit of basic honesty, instead of treating people like fools.

On the night, there were clearly flashpoints as Blackpool Fans exited the ground and the Police had to take further action to deal with the issue, which resulted in a longer delay than expected…. I can’t say that was unexpected as far as I’m concerned and I’m certainly not going to make a big song and dance out of it like some have.

The main issue really is why the Police hadn’t managed to adequately clear the home supporters and allowed them to be in a position to pelt us with missile.

And much more importantly why their fans weee given access to the same stand as us, when they had nearly 5000 empty seats.
 
SLO_BFC said:
Xbeds I've messaged you. I was at a Lancs Police briefing on this game a few weeks ago and Supt. Crowe reiterated what we'd heard before, that holdbacks are not desirable and never planned in advance but can get imposed dynamically if there is considered to be a serious threat to public safety on the day. I don't know what intel was used to trigger that decision last night. I'm sure there will be a debrief.
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They already knew they were doing it 😂

Intel on the day?

Can you please remember you are the Blackpool SLO.

It comes across as weak as our fuckin midfield.

The narrative they are creating is bollocks so please challenge it, they’ve fobbed you off all season with excuses for home games and you’re swallowing it again.
 
Was an absolute disgrace from the police last night when trying to exit. On the coach the match finished 9.45 got back to Blackpool around 11.10pm for a 25 minute journey
 
What I don't get why where the coaches kept behind?
You had everyone sat there ready to go what harm could anyone on there do.

My mate missed his 10.50 train to get to Crewe yes a full hour after the game ended you couldn't make this shite up.
 
Adams Kebab said:
They already knew they were doing it 😂

Intel on the day?

Can you please remember you are the Blackpool SLO.

It comes across as weak as our fuckin midfield.

The narrative they are creating is bollocks so please challenge it, they’ve fobbed you off all season with excuses for home games and you’re swallowing it again.
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They advised at 09.00 on the day that fans would be kept inside rather than outside 'because of weather considerations'. I'm not condoning any of this, and like I said, there will be a debrief.
 
SLO_BFC said:
They advised at 09.00 on the day that fans would be kept inside rather than outside 'because of weather considerations'. I'm not condoning any of this, and like I said, there will be a debrief.
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Nope. They told us last week we would be held back after the game.

Which, is something you’ve said all season can’t be done as it’s a breach of human rights & can only be decided on the day.

So which is it?
 
I think the point is that as said you are the Blackpool SLO. You are there to represent us the fans. You have to get across the strength of feeling that the fans are feeling about the incidents and what happened. You have to be forceful and demand answers, not kowtow the police bog standard crap that they tell you and think that is acceptable as just doing your job. It's not..
 
20togo said:
I think the point is that as said you are the Blackpool SLO. You are there to represent us the fans. You have to get across the strength of feeling that the fans are feeling about the incidents and what happened. You have to be forceful and demand answers, not kowtow the police bog standard crap that they tell you and think that is acceptable as just doing your job. It's not..
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Would the supporters not really be best looking to BST to step up to the plate and represent us in these circumstances?

I thought the SLO was more of a Club representative to the fans as opposed to acting on our behalf. The club certainly appoint the SLO…
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Would the supporters not really be best looking to BST to step up to the plate and represent us in these circumstances?

I thought the SLO was more of a Club representative to the fans as opposed to acting on our behalf. The club certainly appoint the SLO…
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Even that way it would be done by BST or other fans groups to the club thru the SLO. So the point remains the same. I doubt any supporters groups would be allowed in a debrief or make any sort of representation there. It has to go via the club which is thru the SLO. That's his job title is it not?
 
20togo said:
Even that way it would be done by BST or other fans groups to the club thru the SLO. So the point remains the same. I doubt any supporters groups would be allowed in a debrief or make any sort of representation there. It has to go via the club which is thru the SLO. That's his job title is it not?
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Preston Fans representatives managed to gain direct access to the Police and hold them to account following the fixture at BR.

Knob End also need challenging about a tit for tat policy that has put fan safety at risk purely for spiteful reasons. Despite months of selling and promoting tickets with the added Tom Finney 100th Birthday celebration they still had 5000 empty seats. On that basis they could have given the whole stand over to Blackpool (or at the very least created a large sterile area) instead of creating a flashpoint.
 
As I've said on another thread, anyone can email me specific details from last night and I will collate and share with the Club and press for answers from Lancs Police.
 
XBeds-Now-Kings_Meaburn said:
Chaotic & nonsensical . 10 minutes they said . It was 52 minutes after the final whistle when the cordon was lifted !!

Silver commander for the Operation was Inspector Crow . I'll be finding his e-mail & writing to him . Maybe our SLO can help with that
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It wasn't a big deal to be honest we all knew we were being kept back

There wasn't much of an escort back into town either so thats a plus point

What was rather enjoying was the police not allowing people to have a piss with 10 mins to go
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
It’s been public knowledge since at least Thursday that away fans would be held back after the game. It was clearly pre-planned well in advance (we had an announcement on the coach on our way there to remind us).

It’s no problem as far as I’m concerned… What is a problem is the continued peddling of bullshit, that these things are only ‘decided based on intelligence on the day’.

Let’s just have a bit of basic honesty, instead of treating people like fools.

On the night, there were clearly flashpoints as Blackpool Fans exited the ground and the Police had to take further action to deal with the issue, which resulted in a longer delay than expected…. I can’t say that was unexpected as far as I’m concerned and I’m certainly not going to make a big song and dance out of it like some have.

The main issue really is why the Police hadn’t managed to adequately clear the home supporters and allowed them to be in a position to pelt us with missile.

And much more importantly why their fans weee given access to the same stand as us, when they had nearly 5000 empty seats.
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There's a difference between holding us back and holding us in the stands for 15 minutes and not allowing anyone to go to the toilet with 15 minutes to go. ** shambles the entire thing.
 
poolseasider said:
New one on me also.😂
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Just relaying what the Police advised yesterday on their Twitter feed: "Info for away supporters the match commander has decided to “hold” the Blackpool fans in the ground at the end of the game for approximately 10mins. Due to the adverse weather conditions it will be more comfortable to remain in the stadium rather than outside." The real issues are around why 10 mins turned into 40 before the cordon was lifted.
 
SLO_BFC said:
Just relaying what the Police advised yesterday on their Twitter feed: "Info for away supporters the match commander has decided to “hold” the Blackpool fans in the ground at the end of the game for approximately 10mins. Due to the adverse weather conditions it will be more comfortable to remain in the stadium rather than outside." The real issues are around why 10 mins turned into 40 before the cordon was lifted.
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What adverse weather conditions no rain and a bit of breeze.🤣
 
SLO_BFC said:
Just relaying what the Police advised yesterday on their Twitter feed: "Info for away supporters the match commander has decided to “hold” the Blackpool fans in the ground at the end of the game for approximately 10mins. Due to the adverse weather conditions it will be more comfortable to remain in the stadium rather than outside." The real issues are around why 10 mins turned into 40 before the cordon was lifted.
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As I said before and you chose to ignore, you have been banging on about human rights all season as to why no fans can be held back at Bloomfield. But it seems that doesn't apply in Preston with the same police force. And talking of human rights, stopping people using toilets is a clear breach of human rights. So stand up and get the truth, as you have been strung along all year, and liase with the fans the real reasons.
 
To be fair to the SLO just shouting at him might be not be enough as the police have a certain history of not exactly being a transparent organisation and not always reacting brilliantly to enquiry and investigation...

Which is essentially the problem in itself. Whilst it's not really the end of the world to have been held back for the third time this season, there was a police created bottleneck where elderly and inform people and kids were squashed in a tight area not well lit area and shuffling along.

All it takes is someone to fall over and it could be nasty.

Again, the police simply see it as beneath them to actually communicate. People were again pushed about by police horses and forced into routes by mute coppers.

Obviously, some of them were perfectly decent people but it was apparent they didn't have a clue what was going on.

Only football fans put up with this shit and seemingly this year, only in games in Lancashire.

I was at the back, so I didn't really witness the stuff being chucked but I did manage to walk to the station faster than the busses to the station got there which says a lot about the organisation.
 
Maybe it just shows that the poor behaviour of some Blackpool 'Fans' previously, has been noticed and taken into account.
 
Philbfctrois said:
It wasn't a big deal to be honest we all knew we were being kept back

There wasn't much of an escort back into town either so thats a plus point

What was rather enjoying was the police not allowing people to have a piss with 10 mins to go
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I hope you meant to say annoying.....😳
 
Which Brain Surgeon in the Police thought it was a good plan to stop folk having a piss?
All that happens is lads just piss in a plastic bottle which then gets swilled all over the stands.
Probably normal behaviour in Preston, half their fans didn't look house trained.
Surely the morons didn't block the ladies as well?
 
Was stood with Sonny Carey outside after the game (my god we needed him on the pitch last night) and he was asking to get past - police said no. He was getting pushed and jostled by the fans behind who were trying to get past themselves. This is a lad we've paid good money for with a current foot injury. I said to the police that he was a player and currently injured and that they could be causing him more injury by making him wait in the cordon and they refused. Ludicrous.
 
abt1835 said:
Maybe it just shows that the poor behaviour of some Blackpool 'Fans' previously, has been noticed and taken into account.
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Yet another quick to blame their own fans. From what I saw it was Preston fans throwing stuff over the coaches at us 🤔
 
20togo said:
Even that way it would be done by BST or other fans groups to the club thru the SLO. So the point remains the same. I doubt any supporters groups would be allowed in a debrief or make any sort of representation there. It has to go via the club which is thru the SLO. That's his job title is it not?
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Muckers had a representative at the combined meeting before the game
 
SLO_BFC said:
Just relaying what the Police advised yesterday on their Twitter feed: "Info for away supporters the match commander has decided to “hold” the Blackpool fans in the ground at the end of the game for approximately 10mins. Due to the adverse weather conditions it will be more comfortable to remain in the stadium rather than outside." The real issues are around why 10 mins turned into 40 before the cordon was lifted.
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Sorry Steve, I know being SLO is a thankless task but I think the main points are 1) the decision to hold us behind was nothing to do with the weather as it was taken in advance and unless Michael Fish was doing the forecast? 2) and more importantly why is it against human rights to hold away fans back at Bloomers but nowhere else?
 
Fargo99 said:
Which Brain Surgeon in the Police thought it was a good plan to stop folk having a piss?
All that happens is lads just piss in a plastic bottle which then gets swilled all over the stands.
Probably normal behaviour in Preston, half their fans didn't look house trained.
Surely the morons didn't block the ladies as well?
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All this human rights stuff we had against us when it was suggestedwe keep people back, surely stopping people going to the toilet is against people's rights. How is it there's such contrasting rules from our place to theirs?
 
td53 said:
To be fair to the SLO just shouting at him might be not be enough as the police have a certain history of not exactly being a transparent organisation and not always reacting brilliantly to enquiry and investigation...

Which is essentially the problem in itself. Whilst it's not really the end of the world to have been held back for the third time this season, there was a police created bottleneck where elderly and inform people and kids were squashed in a tight area not well lit area and shuffling along.

All it takes is someone to fall over and it could be nasty.

Again, the police simply see it as beneath them to actually communicate. People were again pushed about by police horses and forced into routes by mute coppers.

Obviously, some of them were perfectly decent people but it was apparent they didn't have a clue what was going on.

Only football fans put up with this shit and seemingly this year, only in games in Lancashire.

I was at the back, so I didn't really witness the stuff being chucked but I did manage to walk to the station faster than the busses to the station got there which says a lot about the organisation.
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This isn’t an easy one

Let you all out and all he’ll breaks lose ? I wasn’t there and don’t go for 5hose very reasons and I just hate the atmosphere at these matches

I know I was at Brum and that was a farce caused by home and away fan thugs leaving just before the final whistle having a fight over a fence they couldn’t see or get over and it was the innocent majority who took the backlash

All i have learnt over the years is that the truth you rarely get out of the police or it takes30 years to begin to get there !
 
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