Donnelly

Isn’t this Nixon who said Critch will be our next manager? He may be right… he’s often not?
 
Is this the same role as sporting director that Badlan was in? As it seems they are often the same thing?

I like the idea of promoting from within as you know what you're getting.

Like with Dobbie, you know all about them and have seen them operate up close.
 
Would any of us be clamouring for Ciaran Donnelly as Director of Football or Dobbie as Head Coach if they weren't already at the club?

I do hope we are exhausting all possibilities for both roles, otherwise it just smacks of going for the cheap and convenient options.
 
JJpool said:
Is he though? Think he was right about Rosenior, the club clearly went for him but it fell through I think, probably why we ended up with Appleton to avoid the process restarting.
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Nixon was just following the betting markets there, and that was being driven by the Derby fans following the collapse of the takeover.

The club really did think Appleton was the better choice.
 
Lost Seasider said:
Nixon was just following the betting markets there, and that was being driven by the Derby fans following the collapse of the takeover.

The club really did think Appleton was the better choice.
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He's got some things right, some may be playing the percentages.

I guess we'll see with this one, as haven't seen this mentioned anywhere else.
 
Briggs5 said:
Would any of us be clamouring for Ciaran Donnelly as Director of Football or Dobbie as Head Coach if they weren't already at the club?

I do hope we are exhausting all possibilities for both roles, otherwise it just smacks of going for the cheap and convenient options.
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It's a good point, but we still have the actual other Cov guy who's a scout AFAIK.

I must admit I don't know a lot about Donnelly and what his current role entails.

But I guess he'll be using whatever guidance the club philosophy is, helping set it as he will have done at the lower level successfully? Working within the budget, utilising the scouts and stats to find suitable players for us.

Maybe he's demonstrated he can do that at development level and therefore with the step up in supporting roles around him, he can do it for older players too?
 
Sounds like a sensible appointment, though it does rather beg the question of why we went through an expensive external recruitment process when there was a suitable candidate under our noses.
 
I’d have to hope it’s 100% bollux.

A DoF should be a been there done that commands respect type.

Still, it would strengthen BMs position.
 
We need someone who is both aware of a lot of players and knows how clubs like Brighton and Brentford have operated. They are examples of clubs who have recruited well and are extremely prudent. I don't know if Donnelly is the man for that or not. We don't really want both Donnelly and Dobbie somewhat learning on the job.
 
alginate said:
I don’t really get this. The head of academy role is completely different. Does Donnelly even have a background in scouting, recruitment etc?
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Exactly this. Hiring a DoF should bring access to their years of contacts, a scouting network and data analysts, all with a view to improving recruitment. I'd be stunned if Donnelly could bring this to the table.

Seems to be some lack of definition around the roles on the football side of things, and it seems to be going backwards.
 
JJpool said:
He's got some things right, some may be playing the percentages.

I guess we'll see with this one, as haven't seen this mentioned anywhere else.
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I can't see who might be ITK on this and be willing to leak to Nixon at the same time.

SS, BM & CD are the only people who "need" to know at this stage, they're not going to leak, beyond that, maybe a secretary, external lawyers, I can't see them leaking either.

Possibly, if CD has an agent, he might leak, but does he have one and if he does would he be happy with that?
 
Lost Seasider said:
I can't see who might be ITK on this and be willing to leak to Nixon at the same time.

SS, BM & CD are the only people who "need" to know at this stage, they're not going to leak, beyond that, maybe a secretary, external lawyers, I can't see them leaking either.

Possibly, if CD has an agent, he might leak, but does he have one and if he does would he be happy with that?
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No idea, it's probably usually agents though in a lot of cases.
 
JJpool said:
No idea, it's probably usually agents though in a lot of cases.
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With players, yes, the agent and the selling club wants to try to drum up as much interest as possible in the hope of a better deal for the player and a higher fee for the club, but who's going to do that for our academy director, it's not as if Tottenham are going to swoop in and snatch him from us (although the way things are going that might not be the worst idea for them).

Also, at managerial level, there's an expectation of confidentiality from all involved, I wouldn't want my first act as DoF to be a breach of confidence, and I doubt CD would either.

I can maybe see Scrafton getting a heads-up before the official announcement, but what anyone gains from letting Nixon know is beyond me.
 
Lost Seasider said:
With players, yes, the agent and the selling club wants to try to drum up as much interest as possible in the hope of a better deal for the player and a higher fee for the club, but who's going to do that for our academy director, it's not as if Tottenham are going to swoop in and snatch him from us (although the way things are going that might not be the worst idea for them).

Also, at managerial level, there's an expectation of confidentiality from all involved, I wouldn't want my first act as DoF to be a breach of confidence, and I doubt CD would either.

I can maybe see Scrafton getting a heads-up before the official announcement, but what anyone gains from letting Nixon know is beyond me.
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Yeah it is a bit odd, I guess we'll see if its true.

If not then it's a bit of a random curveball rumour. If it's right then how has the info got out.
 
JJpool said:
Yeah it is a bit odd, I guess we'll see if its true.

If not then it's a bit of a random curveball rumour. If it's right then how has the info got out.
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The only thing I can think of is if Scrafton has had some sort of falling out with the club and BM is using Nixon to rub his nose in it, but that doesn't sound likely to me.
 
Insider said:
It's quite a big job actually.

www.blackpoolfc.co.uk

Academy

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So if he's been doing that, (amongst other things) looking to source the best young talent from around the uk for the academy, he will surely have a well established network of contacts at clubs, as well as using the clubs infrastructure and we also have the cov scout still plus more I'd imagine?

So if he were to be stepping up, but now for pro players, is it the next logical step?

A bit like a youth coach stepping up, the principles are largely the same...?
 
Donnelly started his coaching/backroom career at Blackpool, moved to Fleetwood when the boycotts and stuff kicked in, then came back. By all accounts he's done extremely well at whatever role he's been in.
The comments about never having done the specific job make me smile. On that basis, nobody should ever get promoted at work. Everyone should just stick at the level they started at. People prove they have capabilities, qualities and abilities, and climb the career ladder accordingly.
 
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