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Low turnout and enthusiasm won't save them if that's their hope. 1992 election was 78% turnout. 1997 it dropped to 70% and even more significantly to 59% in 2001. Both are remembered as stunning Labour landslides. Nobody cares about the turnout.
The Tories only really have two factions the sensible one and the crazy one. Unfortunately half the country went crazy and we have had the head case faction in charge for the last 5 or 6 years!
I think it's the members that guarantee totally unsuitable people like Johnson and Truss being elected as leaders!
They were the arrogant, lazy ones! Called a referendum to stop Tory infighting and then didn't bother campaigning to get the right result for the UK.
To be fair; they did send a leaflet to every household in the country (paid for out of taxation) to say what the consequence of a "Leave" vote would be.
I know all about the leaflets I delivered them! Not all of them it just felt like it! From what I could gather going house to house most people made their decisions on the back of what Farage and Johnson were telling them on TV.
Not a chance at present.
Still got over 12 months if they go right to the wire January 2025.
Good line
Hold on, I thought Labour were radical green extremists in bed with Just Stop Oil who wanted to wage a war on 40 million motorists and force everyone to eat salads for breakfast. They might not even get a majority because of it. What happened? Has the fight been given up that easily?
Assuming that Labour doesn't split over Israel, which is a distinct possibility, there's been some chatter about Corbyn forming his own party, which would hive off a good chunk of Starmer's support.
They are against motorists
ch ch ch changes on the horizon
It is made up, I'll grant you, but they were the Tory attack lines that were being briefed a few weeks ago. I hope they don't follow your resignation. I liked it when they were trying to portray Keir Starmer as a dangerous radical eco-terrorist. It definitely made him more interesting.
one of my fave BOWIE tunes. thanks . have it on vinyl as a single with two others.
Why would you think I'm a Tory?
I didn't say you were. You've been parroting their attacks on Labour recently though with the so-called war on motorists that could cost them a majority. I'm going to be interested to see how the Tory attack morphs now if more people cool off that and towards your stance now, that they're all the same anyway
To be honest I'm more interested in what Labour will do more than what the Conservatives haven't done
They were accused at the Tory Party conference of bringing in a meat tax, hence the salad reference.
Anti semitic roots? Now who's making stuff up?
It's my view nobody else's
1) Labour doesn't have anti semitic roots.
You must be gutted that Starmer didn't support all the recent strikes then?
Was it because he called Hamas and Hezbollah "our friends"?
The longer this Israel/Hamas war goes on the more awkward it's going to be for the Labour party
More disappointed than gutted, I think politicians should stand for something, struggling to find many in the main two parties who do. If Labour cant stand up for workers wanting a fairer deal then who will? Maybe he's fallen for the right wing fallacy of everything union = bad, or more likely trying to win the cross of voters who believe such bollocks? What do you think? I suppose everyone will be happy when workers have no voice anymore.
That's a fair reply mate
Even after 2019 Starmer campaigned on the promise that he would continue Corbyn's economic policies, he was elected as a left winger, now like you said, he's just aimlessly drifting more and more to the centre without any real direction apart from don't fuck it up before the election and say virtually nothing of any consequence.
Surely that demonstrates they are NOT anti semitic?
It was proven they were
He does appear to have a habit of telling all his MPs what to do and think