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I think it is more likely to cost the French a chunk of British tourism, suspect there will have been a lot of EU nationals also caught up in that logjam, as on recent break to South Wales there were a lot of French, Italian and German families.
I voted to stay in EU but they are a shower of sh*t in Brussels and I think their actions are to head off other countries exiting EU
 
Yet more Leave bollox. Here is the truth from the French. Believe it or not - it's your choice. No doubt you will believe what suits your agenda.

"The increase in traffic for this weekend was fully anticipated and a suitable deployment was prepared," the statement said.
"The plan was to have all the police booths manned at Dover by 08:30 BST.
"An unforeseeable technical incident in the tunnel meant that police had to push back their full deployment by an hour."
 
1966_and_all_that said:
Yet more Leave bollox. Here is the truth from the French. Believe it or not - it's your choice. No doubt you will believe what suits your agenda.

"The increase in traffic for this weekend was fully anticipated and a suitable deployment was prepared," the statement said.
"The plan was to have all the police booths manned at Dover by 08:30 BST.
"An unforeseeable technical incident in the tunnel meant that police had to push back their full deployment by an hour."
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That response has already been dismissed by the CEO of Eurotunnel who I think we can assume isn't a hard-line Brexiteer.

In reality, this is a case of incompetency by an EU member state that negatively affects a non-member state but presumably the narrative goes along the lines 'if we hadn't had left we wouldn't be exposed to the EU's incompetency'.

Maybe it's a coincidence this occurs on the day the EU starts yet more legal action over the NI Protocol. This time it's about the UK not providing border co-operation to the EU by providing them with relevant data yet a similar thing happens at Dover and the French come up with a dog-ate-my-homework excuse about getting to work late.

Looks like there are still people out there who lap this sort of thing up though.
 
Kip said:
That response has already been dismissed by the CEO of Eurotunnel who I think we can assume isn't a hard-line Brexiteer.

In reality, this is a case of incompetency by an EU member state that negatively affects a non-member state but presumably the narrative goes along the lines 'if we hadn't had left we wouldn't be exposed to the EU's incompetency'.

Maybe it's a coincidence this occurs on the day the EU starts yet more legal action over the NI Protocol. This time it's about the UK not providing border co-operation to the EU by providing them with relevant data yet a similar thing happens at Dover and the French come up with a dog-ate-my-homework excuse about getting to work late.

Looks like there are still people out there who lap this sort of thing up though.
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No bias on my part. I was just reading the BBC website.
 
To enter France, one needs a passport and proof of vaccinations. Should take a couple of minutes a car.
This is the French saying yar boo sucks, you exited,deal with it.
 
Malced said:
On the day the EU launch legal action against the UK over the Northern Ireland protocol agreement. Coincidence? I doubt it.
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or the day we read about this bit of bollox from Boris

good that he’s agreed to pay the French to build our latest nuclear power station mind

www.bbc.co.uk

Irish border: New UK travel rules nonsensical, says Stephen Farry

Tourists as well as non-Irish or British citizens in Ireland will have to pre-apply to cross into NI.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
Hertsseasider said:
To enter France, one needs a passport and proof of vaccinations. Should take a couple of minutes a car.
This is the French saying yar boo sucks, you exited,deal with it.
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If it takes 3 minutes rather than 1 minute, maximum capacity per gate per day is reduced from 1500 to 480. That's not factoring in busy/light phases of the day.

Which is why anybody who thinks it through, knows that border checks are a disaster.

If there's 100 cars ahead of you in the queue because you introduced a 3 minute check, then you wait for 5 hours.
 
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Recidivist3 said:
or the day we read about this bit of bollox from Boris

good that he’s agreed to pay the French to build our latest nuclear power station mind

www.bbc.co.uk

Irish border: New UK travel rules nonsensical, says Stephen Farry

Tourists as well as non-Irish or British citizens in Ireland will have to pre-apply to cross into NI.
www.bbc.co.uk
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That sounds reasonable on the face of it. Non-Irish citizens requiring a permit to enter a foreign country. It's no different to what the USA/Canada and soon the EU wants to impose on everyone else.
 
Foolweary said:
If it takes 3 minutes rather than 1 minute, maximum capacity per gate per day is reduced from 1500 to 480. That's not factoring in busy phases of the day.

Which is why anybody who thinks it through, knows that border checks are a disaster.

If there's 100 cars ahead of you in the queue because you introduced a 3 minute check, then you wait for 5 hours.
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Also factoring in people who have loaded docs on a mobile and struggle with a signal or power. Plus people you didn't know what they needed to enter The EU.
It's a right mess.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
Yet more Leave bollox. Here is the truth from the French. Believe it or not - it's your choice. No doubt you will believe what suits your agenda.

"The increase in traffic for this weekend was fully anticipated and a suitable deployment was prepared," the statement said.
"The plan was to have all the police booths manned at Dover by 08:30 BST.
"An unforeseeable technical incident in the tunnel meant that police had to push back their full deployment by an hour."
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Yes they went to a different port of entry and got stuck in the traffic they created, a very unforseen technical explanation. Could not run a, wine tasting in a vinyard
 
Foolweary said:
If it takes 3 minutes rather than 1 minute, maximum capacity per gate per day is reduced from 1500 to 480. That's not factoring in busy/light phases of the day.

Which is why anybody who thinks it through, knows that border checks are a disaster.

If there's 100 cars ahead of you in the queue because you introduced a 3 minute check, then you wait for 5 hours.
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Yes, but rather than think it through with very simple maths the Mail readers would sooner blame the French. Its the strange sense if entitlement that's baffling, we left yet somehow the French should just wave us through. One post on here rambling on about how it'll affect their travel industry another extension of the theme "they need us more than we need them". Funny I've not heard that one for a while, bizarre how it fell by the wayside......
 
It amazes me that some on here believe the French sending 6 out of 14 officers to do their job was somehow not the fault of the French. Even more amazing is that some believe France's action wasn't intentional on the busiest weekend of the Summer and that France was telling the truth about there being "an incident" in the Channel Tunnel which prevented the officers (who had not set off) arriving. To top it all off, the same idiots blame the UK for France's malfeasance. Bizarre.
 
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It amazes me that some on here believe the French sending 6 out of 14 officers to do their job was somehow not the fault of the French. Even more amazing is that some believe France's action wasn't intentional on the busiest weekend of the Summer and that France was telling the truth about there being "an incident" in the Channel Tunnel which prevented the officers (who had not set off) arriving. To top it all off, the same idiots blame the UK for France's malfeasance. Bizarre.
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well said. Some people on here are clearly not only anti Brexit but anti British as well. They never seem to have a positive thing to say about this country.
 
tommytwojags said:
It amazes me that some on here believe the French sending 6 out of 14 officers to do their job was somehow not the fault of the French. Even more amazing is that some believe France's action wasn't intentional on the busiest weekend of the Summer and that France was telling the truth about there being "an incident" in the Channel Tunnel which prevented the officers (who had not set off) arriving. To top it all off, the same idiots blame the UK for France's malfeasance. Bizarre.
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Why should the French do anything special for UK citizens? We voted to leave so UK citizens now no longer benefit from easy travel access to the EU and are treated as any other third party country.

It's too late realising now how good the benefits used to be and thinking you should still be entitled to them.
 
I'm fed up with all this negative talk about Brexit.

People voted to be stuck in traffic jams for hours, because they appreciated having their sovereignty back.
 
20togo said:
well said. Some people on here are clearly not only anti Brexit but anti British as well. They never seem to have a positive thing to say about this country.
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Nothing to do with this country - everything to do with the disaster of Brexit.
 
BigHandsOliverKahn said:
Why should the French do anything special for UK citizens? We voted to leave so UK citizens now no longer benefit from easy travel access to the EU and are treated as any other third party country.

It's too late realising now how good the benefits used to be and thinking you should still be entitled to them
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The usual bullshit from you. I've travelled extensively to Europe since Brexit and apart from having to show a passport its still easy access.
So stop exaggerating.
And as for the French doing anything special, well welcoming tourists in should be just a basic act of human kindness, whether those people are a member of your club or not.
And I thought tourists bring money to their economy? So why cause problems for people bringing money in?
Cutting off their noses to spite their face is a saying that comes to mind.
Name me one special thing the French did for us before Brexit?
 
‘And as for the French doing anything special, well welcoming tourists in should be just a basic act of human kindness, whether those people are a member of your club or not’

is this a cut and paste from the Tory pledge on immigration 🤔


Name me one special thing the French did for us before Brexit?

🙄 Can we start with EDF and providing electricity and gas for over 5 million Brits please
 
RUSTY_2_STANDS said:
The usual bullshit from you. I've travelled extensively to Europe since Brexit and apart from having to show a passport its still easy access.
So stop exaggerating.
And as for the French doing anything special, well welcoming tourists in should be just a basic act of human kindness, whether those people are a member of your club or not.
And I thought tourists bring money to their economy? So why cause problems for people bringing money in?
Cutting off their noses to spite their face is a saying that comes to mind.
Name me one special thing the French did for us before Brexit?
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Gave us free wine once we helped clear Normandy in 1944?
 
I wonder what difference doubling the number of French run passport booths at Dover would make? Can't believe no-one has thought of this
 
RUSTY_2_STANDS said:
The usual bullshit from you. I've travelled extensively to Europe since Brexit and apart from having to show a passport its still easy access.
So stop exaggerating.
And as for the French doing anything special, well welcoming tourists in should be just a basic act of human kindness, whether those people are a member of your club or not.
And I thought tourists bring money to their economy? So why cause problems for people bringing money in?
Cutting off their noses to spite their face is a saying that comes to mind.
Name me one special thing the French did for us before Brexit?
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Well as long as things went alright for you, that's OK then. The 'I'm alright Jack brigade' are fine so there's no problems.

Let's just enjoy paying off the £57 Billion Brexit divorce bill over the next 25 years instead and hope it's others who suffer.
 
What part of 'stop exaggerating' did you not understand?
And stop trying to twist my words round to suit your own agenda.
And you haven't named one special thing the French did for us before Brexit.
Stick to supporting the Oystons, it's more you.
 
BigHandsOliverKahn said:
Well as long as things went alright for you, that's OK then. The 'I'm alright Jack brigade' are fine so there's no problems.

Let's just enjoy paying off the £57 Billion Brexit divorce bill over the next 25 years instead and hope it's others who suffer.
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Not sure about those figures.
 
RUSTY_2_STANDS said:
Name me one special thing the French did for us before Brexit?
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1. Allowed us entry to their country with a cursory glance at our passport. Now each passport requires a stamp.
2. Allowed us entry to their country for as long as we liked. Now it's limited to 90 in any 180 days.
3. Allowed us to send parcels to their country by just adding the required stamps. Now, every parcel requires a customs form declaring the content and all parcels have to go through French customs.
I could go on.......
 
Hertsseasider said:
1. Allowed us entry to their country with a cursory glance at our passport. Now each passport requires a stamp.
2. Allowed us entry to their country for as long as we liked. Now it's limited to 90 in any 180 days.
3. Allowed us to send parcels to their country by just adding the required stamps. Now, every parcel requires a customs form declaring the content and all parcels have to go through French customs.
I could go on.......
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I wouldn't call any of those special, but that's just a difference of opinion
 
Hertsseasider said:
1. Allowed us entry to their country with a cursory glance at our passport. Now each passport requires a stamp.
2. Allowed us entry to their country for as long as we liked. Now it's limited to 90 in any 180 days.
3. Allowed us to send parcels to their country by just adding the required stamps. Now, every parcel requires a customs form declaring the content and all parcels have to go through French customs.
I could go on.......
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No that was the federal EU state, not France.
 
Hertsseasider said:
1. Allowed us entry to their country with a cursory glance at our passport. Now each passport requires a stamp.
2. Allowed us entry to their country for as long as we liked. Now it's limited to 90 in any 180 days.
3. Allowed us to send parcels to their country by just adding the required stamps. Now, every parcel requires a customs form declaring the content and all parcels have to go through French customs.
I could go on.......
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I assume the same is required in reverse so both need to get their fingers out and get it sorted. I mean what’s the problem, they’re only paying more attention to passports, not checking cars, so why bother? It’s just bureaucracy for the sake of it
 
Hertsseasider said:
1. Allowed us entry to their country with a cursory glance at our passport. Now each passport requires a stamp.
2. Allowed us entry to their country for as long as we liked. Now it's limited to 90 in any 180 days.
3. Allowed us to send parcels to their country by just adding the required stamps. Now, every parcel requires a customs form declaring the content and all parcels have to go through French customs.
I could go on.......
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As Scara has pointed out that was the EU. Something specific to France if you don't mind?
 
I find it a bit odd when some on here evoke the 2nd world war 'go it alone' spirit considering none of them witnessed it but evoking the spirit of Waterloo and Agincourt is just plain mental. Smiles.
 
Hertsseasider said:
Well they are special to me and thousands of others who have family in the EU.
Anyway, I'm out. Enjoying the sunshine and a wonderful family meal in Bruges. Have a nice evening
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So you can still visit them since Brexit? It's not too much trouble showing your passport?
Anyway, enjoy your meal and time with your family. Sounds like the weather is considerably better than here.
I'm not anti French btw. I've visited several times in the last few years and I really enjoy it.
I'm anti EU, anti federal Europe. I'm against the EU as an organisation not the countries in it.
 
There used to be regulations that made it impossible for border checks and bureaucrats to hold people back unnecessarily, we could move our money, things and ourselves through this border without hindrance.

51% of us thought those regulations weren't worth it.
 
RUSTY_2_STANDS said:
The usual bullshit from you. I've travelled extensively to Europe since Brexit and apart from having to show a passport its still easy access.
So stop exaggerating.
And as for the French doing anything special, well welcoming tourists in should be just a basic act of human kindness, whether those people are a member of your club or not.
And I thought tourists bring money to their economy? So why cause problems for people bringing money in?
Cutting off their noses to spite their face is a saying that comes to mind.
Name me one special thing the French did for us before Brexit?
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So you think 10 hour queues are easy access? OK..
 
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