Blackpool's financial accounts for the period up to June 30, 2021

Just to put things in perspective, our wage bill was £6.8m last year according to this. PNE's wage bill last year was £20m. I'm sure ours will have increased this year don't get me wrong, but the jump up to the championship is enormous still, if a small championship club is forking out nearly £20m in wages.
 
BFC_53 said:
Just to put things in perspective, our wage bill was £6.8m last year according to this. PNE's wage bill last year was £20m. I'm sure ours will have increased this year don't get me wrong, but the jump up to the championship is enormous still, if a small championship club is forking out nearly £20m in wages.
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Their last accounts showed £22 million in wages, losing £13 million per annum, covered by shares issued to Hemmings.

Still, no debt😉
 
Couple of snippets.
Match streaming £579,778 (PY £45,950).
That's a healthy amount of money.
If you add gate receipts of a miserly £73,528 (excluding ST sales) the total = £653,306 (PY £1,171,741).
Wages £6,818,777 (PY 6,040,731)
Directors rem'n £356,930 (PY £154,278).
The highest paid director rec'd £341, 930 and I don't think that is Simon Sadler.
Amounts owed to Group undertakings:
£9,444,951 ( PY £3,576,704)
I'm guessing that's Simon's funding.
Deferred income £2,118,167
presumably this season's season ticket sale prior to 30.06.2021.
Other debtors from previously related parties £243,250.
I pretty sure this is Koko's old loan account balance which he still hasn't repaid.
 
Insider said:
Amounts owed to Group undertakings:
£9,444,951 ( PY £3,576,704)
I'm guessing that's Simon's funding.
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As I understand it, the club is owned by a holding company, (BFC Holdings Ltd), there are two other subsidiary companies, which own the hotel and stadium, the debt is between the holding company and the club.

The holding company's accounts aren't available yet, but the last year's accounts are unclear exactly who the money is due to.
 
Insider said:
Couple of snippets.
Match streaming £579,778 (PY £45,950).
That's a healthy amount of money.
If you add gate receipts of a miserly £73,528 (excluding ST sales) the total = £653,306 (PY £1,171,741).
Wages £6,818,777 (PY 6,040,731)
Directors rem'n £356,930 (PY £154,278).
The highest paid director rec'd £341, 930 and I don't think that is Simon Sadler.
Amounts owed to Group undertakings:
£9,444,951 ( PY £3,576,704)
I'm guessing that's Simon's funding.
Deferred income £2,118,167
presumably this season's season ticket sale prior to 30.06.2021.
Other debtors from previously related parties £243,250.
I pretty sure this is Koko's old loan account balance which he still hasn't repaid.
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Thank Insy.
 
SS has had to dig deep in his brief time in charge, sorting out the Oyston mess, Covid losses and building a Championship squad. I doubt it's sustainable, but he'll be looking to recoup some money, starting with Bowler, no doubt. I'm sure sure he bought the club knowing it would need investment though, and will have had some contingency for that. I've no idea how deep his pockets are. Income streams are obviously improving from tickets sales, tangerine tv, sponsorship, advertising, shop sales, Championship payments etc. He and his directors seem to know what they are doing. Hedge funding is perhaps good preparation!
 
voyeur said:
SS has had to dig deep in his brief time in charge, sorting out the Oyston mess, Covid losses and building a Championship squad. I doubt it's sustainable, but he'll be looking to recoup some money, starting with Bowler, no doubt. I'm sure sure he bought the club knowing it would need investment though, and will have had some contingency for that. I've no idea how deep his pockets are. Income streams are obviously improving from tickets sales, tangerine tv, sponsorship, advertising, shop sales, Championship payments etc. He and his directors seem to know what they are doing. Hedge funding is perhaps good preparation!
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The reason I get wound up by some of our fans (<----- a loose term for them)
encouraging people to sign up for IPTV services.
The guy deserves every penny we can give him for making us proud to say who we support.
When asked previous to SS I used to say "Blackpool unfortunately".
 
Simonized said:
The reason I get wound up by some of our fans (<----- a loose term for them)
encouraging people to sign up for IPTV services.
The guy deserves every penny we can give him for making us proud to say who we support.
When asked previous to SS I used to say "Blackpool unfortunately".
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Thing is there's others on here saying we shouldn't be taking day trips abroad to watch Sat games via TTV.

Every penny counts
 
voyeur said:
SS has had to dig deep in his brief time in charge, sorting out the Oyston mess, Covid losses and building a Championship squad. I doubt it's sustainable, but he'll be looking to recoup some money, starting with Bowler, no doubt. I'm sure sure he bought the club knowing it would need investment though, and will have had some contingency for that. I've no idea how deep his pockets are. Income streams are obviously improving from tickets sales, tangerine tv, sponsorship, advertising, shop sales, Championship payments etc. He and his directors seem to know what they are doing. Hedge funding is perhaps good preparation!
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It's a loss and not one i could afford but.....

Actually given no crowds, doesn't seem as bad as a lot will be, if we'd have had crowds the loss should have been more in line with the year before. Maybe less?

Still had to be funded though and 👍 to Simon.

He went for it instead of like some taking the government covid money....?

I do think we can be at least close to sustainable now, with even bigger crowds and much more revenue and revenue streams. Once the odd player sale comes in too we can be more than sustainable.
 
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JJpool said:
It's a loss and not one i could afford but.....

Actually given no crowds, doesn't seem as bad as a lot will be, if we'd have had crowds the loss should have been more in line with the year before. Maybe less?

Still had to be funded though and 👍 to Simon.

He went for it instead of like some taking the government covid money....?

I do think we can be at least close to sustainable now, with even bigger crowds and much more revenue and revenue streams. Once the odd player sale comes in too we can be more than sustainable.
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Good post JJ☝😊
 
As one or two others have said, these figures don’t seem half as bad as might’ve been expected (think we were talking about £6/7mn at one point?).

Possibly things like the FA Cup run, play-offs etc helped keep things under control.

Note of caution on that is that we haven’t yet seen the group/holding company accounts, which will give a better picture of how much Mr Sadler actually had to pony up and how he structured it. Certain spending (ie on facilities) may be under that heading.
 
A big chunk of the monies paid out could be performance related bonuses.

I‘m no financial person but I’d be very confident in saying every club will have lost money in that season. More worrying would be if the next two or three seasons we were showing a loss.
 
WLDTangerine said:
A big chunk of the monies paid out could be performance related bonuses.

I‘m no financial person but I’d be very confident in saying every club will have lost money in that season. More worrying would be if the next two or three seasons we were showing a loss.
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I suspect that these early years of Sadler's ownership are going to be heavy on capital investment: training ground, East Stand(?) - so the size of the losses will depend on (a) the structuring of any loans and (b) the way in which these new assets are amortised.
 
Haven’t looked at the accounts, but those who have, are legal costs high than you would expect? If so, they could be related to the training ground.
 
Matesrates said:
Haven’t looked at the accounts, but those who have, are legal costs high than you would expect? If so, they could be related to the training ground.
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You don't get anything like that sort of detail in the published accounts.
In round sum figures "administrative expenses" were £10.7m and wages accounted for £7.7m.
The PY figures were £9.7m and £6.7.
So legals will be included in the unanalysed £3m which was the same for the last 2 years.
 
Simonized said:
The reason I get wound up by some of our fans (<----- a loose term for them)
encouraging people to sign up for IPTV services.
The guy deserves every penny we can give him for making us proud to say who we support.
When asked previous to SS I used to say "Blackpool unfortunately".
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If I was to have IPTV I'd use it to drop BT Sports, Sky Sports and that ilk and not to avoid day trips to Spain or Albania.
 
AngelBFC said:
Because he/she is an employee and contractually entitled to his/her wages for the work that he/she does ?

Those barstewards advocating free IPTV have made me even more mad reading that. Stealing from the club end of.
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WHY I HAVE IPTV IN SPAIN ,ITS THE ONLY REAL OPTION ,UNFORTUNATLY.
 
A few points from myself.

1) Wages of £6.8m, which would most likely include bonuses for promotion. Fleetwood wage bill for there last reported accounts was £7m. Nobbers was £20m !
2) Being in the Championship gives an extra £6m of TV money. With additional revenue streams from STH, gate money, sponsorship, hospitality, etc you would expect the losses this financial year to be largely eliminated even bearing mind higher wages. If Josh Bolwer is sold then there should be a reasonable profit.
 
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Football finance expert shares his view on Blackpool's latest accounts as Seasiders post losses of £4.8m

A football finance expert believes there are a lot of positives for Blackpool to take from their yearly financial results, despite the losses of £4.8m.
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Analysing Blackpool’s latest accounts, Kieran Maguire, a lecturer in football finance at the University of Liverpool, suggested the overall figures were as good as the club could have hoped for given the trying circumstances.

“The club really pitched for promotion last season,” he told The Gazette.
“The wage bill was up 15 per cent, although that will include bonuses, and by League One standards they invested a lot in players to the tune of £850,000.


“The owners will clearly be very thankful to the fans for leaving their season ticket money in the club. They also did very well from iFollow.
“The fans followed Blackpool as much as they could given the circumstances and that all benefited the club.

“It was a really tough market. But even things like merchandise were up
by £180,000 in a season where fans weren’t wearing their shirts to matches, but they were still buying them.

“So there are a lot of positives within some significant losses, that was my main take. Overall, I think the key figures are a bit better than they might have been expecting in a Covid year.”

The annual report also shows that wages and salaries for all club staff, including the players and coaching team, rose from £6m to £6.8m.

“The wages are certainly top half, perhaps top quartile in terms of League One. That will include the promotion bonuses as well,” Maguire, the man behind the ‘Price of Football’ Twitter account, added.

“The nature of football is that if you want to compete, you have to pay the going wages.

“The directors’ pay might cause some eyebrows to be raised, as the highest paid director was on £385,000. For a League One director, that’s certainly at the high end of the scale.

“The club used furlough and rightly so. They only claimed £230,000 though, so it wasn’t a huge amount. It was right and proper for all EFL clubs to claim furlough given they don’t have the riches of the Premier League, so
I don’t think anyone can criticise that.

“If you look at how the club is being funded, it’s clear they’ve had to borrow from the owner in a fair amount. That’s the best part of £9.5m.


“In theory that’s repayable in less than a year but in practice I doubt that will be the case as you have to wait for the right time to arise.”

At this moment in time it’s difficult to compare Blackpool’s figures as a lot of clubs in League One are yet to release their accounts.

However, it’s expected Blackpool’s numbers will put them towards the top end of the division, albeit behind some of the big clubs like Sunderland and Portsmouth.

“We’ve not seen too much come out yet from League One,” Maguire said.


“Blackpool aren’t Sunderland, but then nobody is in that division. Sunderland are a whale compared to a dolphin really as League One is concerned.

“The figures will certainly put Blackpool in the top half, top quarter in terms of player spend.

“In terms of wages, they paid £6.8m. Coventry in League One were paying £6.5m the year they went up, Fleetwood paid £7m, MK Dons £4.5m, Lincoln City £5m, Peterborough United
was £6m, then you’ve got the likes of Burton Albion, Shrewsbury Town and Rotherham United who were all around the £4m and £5m mark.

“So Blackpool are paying a wee bit more, but not excessively so. It’s less than Portsmouth, Sunderland and those types of clubs. But Sunderland are in a league of their own really.”


In terms of what Blackpool fans can expect from next year’s accounts, another rise in wages should be expected.

“They will get around £6m in TV money now they’re in the Championship, which is the obvious benefit of promotion,” he said.

“Some of that will have gone into the recruitment market and players will have had step-ups in terms of their contracts.

“We’d expect a significant increase in wages, but at the same time you’d hope some or all of that would be absorbed by the additional income and the fact Bloomfield Road is now hosting big clubs.


“When Forest, Derby and so on come to Bloomfield Road, they will sell out the away end and that will boost the matchday income significantly.”
 
AngelBFC said:
There are other options which have been widely discussed on here.

You just dont want to take them and instead wish to promote illegal streaming .
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I ALSO HAVE A TANGERINE TV ACCOUNT,(BUT AS I HAVE SAID PREVIOUSLY ,IS FREE HERE ON MY IPTV,BUT I DO BELIEVE ,BECAUSE OF THE WAR IN UKRAINE IS BEING ,SUSPENDED ON IPTV ,AND IF THIS IS CORRECT I WILL PAY FOR THE GAMES AND WATCH ON MY PC AS I DID PREVIOUSLY.
 
“If you look at how the club is being funded, it’s clear they’ve had to borrow from the owner in a fair amount. That’s the best part of £9.5m.

“In theory that’s repayable in less than a year but in practice I doubt that will be the case as you have to wait for the right time to arise.”


So up to June 30 last year Sadler had lent the club nearly £10m. We've signed Jordan Gabriel (700k) and others since then.

We don't know if or when he'll take his money back but I think the only ways for that to happen are via player sales or promotion to the EPL.

I doubt he's massively concerned cos we have player assets that could recoup most or all of what he's owed anyway, should he want his money back. And the club is surely worth more than he paid for it too. He's building up something worth a fair bit more than £10m.

The club is being run in quite a hard faced revenue maxing manner though, when it comes to the Cat A ticket thing. Every extra £10k seems to matter more than filling the stands and getting new people in etc. Not very socially inclusive. Which suggests he's been pushed beyond spending what he wanted or anticipated, perhaps. So maybe players will be sold to recover some of the loans. Or does the club just choose to take on that corporate kind of approach rather than the more affordable, community friendly approach?

I guess there's a gap between income and expenditure, and another gap between us and other championship clubs, and the club is simply seeking to deal with that. With limited seating available for home fans.
 
voyeur said:
“If you look at how the club is being funded, it’s clear they’ve had to borrow from the owner in a fair amount. That’s the best part of £9.5m.

“In theory that’s repayable in less than a year but in practice I doubt that will be the case as you have to wait for the right time to arise.”


So up to June 30 last year Sadler had lent the club nearly £10m. We've signed Jordan Gabriel (700k) and others since then.

We don't know if or when he'll take his money back but I think the only ways for that to happen are via player sales or promotion to the EPL.

I doubt he's massively concerned cos we have player assets that could recoup most or all of what he's owed anyway, should he want his money back. And the club is surely worth more than he paid for it too. He's building up something worth a fair bit more than £10m.

The club is being run in quite a hard faced revenue maxing manner though, when it comes to the Cat A ticket thing. Every extra £10k seems to matter more than filling the stands and getting new people in etc. Not very socially inclusive. Which suggests he's been pushed beyond spending what he wanted or anticipated, perhaps. So maybe players will be sold to recover some of the loans. Or does the club just choose to take on that corporate kind of approach rather than the more affordable, community friendly approach?

I guess there's a gap between income and expenditure, and another gap between us and other championship clubs, and the club is simply seeking to deal with that. With limited seating available for home fans.
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Covid is the main reason, it hit all of last season and the latter end of the season before, without it we would be a lot closer to beaking even. The losses would be far less.

So its not the fans fault, 'we'have backed the club all we can really. Many contributing with leaving st money and and the decent chunk of I follow money.

Ask any fan which way to go prior to the the strategy and they have said lower cost more fans route.

It shouldn't be a choice really as you can make a similar amount by attracting an extra 400 ish.

The stadium doesn't help but hasn't been utilised to its maximum.
 
JJpool said:
Covid is the main reason, it hit all of last season and the latter end of the season before, without it we would be a lot closer to beaking even. The losses would be far less.

So its not the fans fault, 'we'have backed the club all we can really. Many contributing with leaving st money and and the decent chunk of I follow money.

Ask any fan which way to go prior to the the strategy and they have said lower cost more fans route.

It shouldn't be a choice really as you can make a similar amount by attracting an extra 400 ish.

The stadium doesn't help but hasn't been utilised to its maximum.
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Nobody is blaming the fans. Covid is obviously responsible for a lot of the 10 million quid, maybe half of it, but it doesn't alter the material fact that Sadler is millions out of pocket and seems keen to maximise revenue. Lowering prices to attract more people is an alternative strategy but it's not the strategy he's chosen. At the end of the day ST prices are lower than they were a few years ago and most games are priced at 24 quid which is lower than average for the division. The contentious issue is probably just the Cat A price, which I would personally scrap and just charge 24 for all games. Keep it simple.

Sadler obviously wants the extra 4 quid a head from the Forest and Blades fans, maybe 10 grand per game. I know Preston was Cat A, but how many have we had all season? If it's 5, that means 50k extra. Is it worth it? I'd argue not, as there is a dis-benefit of discouraging support and having a more confused price structure. Although it's only 4 quid, people make decisions and think, "bollocks, I'm not paying 28 quid." It's a psychologically bad tactic, I think, to up prices for attractive games. As said many times, many people are getting priced out of football, and Blackpool has more than its fair share of low income employment, seasonal work and unemployment. Sadler can't resolve all that, and it's not his responsibility. And a bigger stadium would facilitate lower prices. But the Cat A thing is a mistake in my opinion. Gives the wrong message, for a relatively small gain.
 
JJpool said:
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Football finance expert shares his view on Blackpool's latest accounts as Seasiders post losses of £4.8m

A football finance expert believes there are a lot of positives for Blackpool to take from their yearly financial results, despite the losses of £4.8m.
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Analysing Blackpool’s latest accounts, Kieran Maguire, a lecturer in football finance at the University of Liverpool, suggested the overall figures were as good as the club could have hoped for given the trying circumstances.

“The club really pitched for promotion last season,” he told The Gazette.
“The wage bill was up 15 per cent, although that will include bonuses, and by League One standards they invested a lot in players to the tune of £850,000.


“The owners will clearly be very thankful to the fans for leaving their season ticket money in the club. They also did very well from iFollow.
“The fans followed Blackpool as much as they could given the circumstances and that all benefited the club.

“It was a really tough market. But even things like merchandise were up
by £180,000 in a season where fans weren’t wearing their shirts to matches, but they were still buying them.

“So there are a lot of positives within some significant losses, that was my main take. Overall, I think the key figures are a bit better than they might have been expecting in a Covid year.”

The annual report also shows that wages and salaries for all club staff, including the players and coaching team, rose from £6m to £6.8m.

“The wages are certainly top half, perhaps top quartile in terms of League One. That will include the promotion bonuses as well,” Maguire, the man behind the ‘Price of Football’ Twitter account, added.

“The nature of football is that if you want to compete, you have to pay the going wages.

“The directors’ pay might cause some eyebrows to be raised, as the highest paid director was on £385,000. For a League One director, that’s certainly at the high end of the scale.

“The club used furlough and rightly so. They only claimed £230,000 though, so it wasn’t a huge amount. It was right and proper for all EFL clubs to claim furlough given they don’t have the riches of the Premier League, so
I don’t think anyone can criticise that.

“If you look at how the club is being funded, it’s clear they’ve had to borrow from the owner in a fair amount. That’s the best part of £9.5m.


“In theory that’s repayable in less than a year but in practice I doubt that will be the case as you have to wait for the right time to arise.”

At this moment in time it’s difficult to compare Blackpool’s figures as a lot of clubs in League One are yet to release their accounts.

However, it’s expected Blackpool’s numbers will put them towards the top end of the division, albeit behind some of the big clubs like Sunderland and Portsmouth.

“We’ve not seen too much come out yet from League One,” Maguire said.


“Blackpool aren’t Sunderland, but then nobody is in that division. Sunderland are a whale compared to a dolphin really as League One is concerned.

“The figures will certainly put Blackpool in the top half, top quarter in terms of player spend.

“In terms of wages, they paid £6.8m. Coventry in League One were paying £6.5m the year they went up, Fleetwood paid £7m, MK Dons £4.5m, Lincoln City £5m, Peterborough United
was £6m, then you’ve got the likes of Burton Albion, Shrewsbury Town and Rotherham United who were all around the £4m and £5m mark.

“So Blackpool are paying a wee bit more, but not excessively so. It’s less than Portsmouth, Sunderland and those types of clubs. But Sunderland are in a league of their own really.”


In terms of what Blackpool fans can expect from next year’s accounts, another rise in wages should be expected.

“They will get around £6m in TV money now they’re in the Championship, which is the obvious benefit of promotion,” he said.

“Some of that will have gone into the recruitment market and players will have had step-ups in terms of their contracts.

“We’d expect a significant increase in wages, but at the same time you’d hope some or all of that would be absorbed by the additional income and the fact Bloomfield Road is now hosting big clubs.


“When Forest, Derby and so on come to Bloomfield Road, they will sell out the away end and that will boost the matchday income significantly.”
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Thank you, good sir.🤗
 
There shouldn't be too much between the teams on Saturday. Worlds apart off it! They'll be scratching their heads, surely.
 
Looking at the loss made and balancing it with the progress made on the pitch - I reckon we are 3 months away from fans posting on this bb that we need to show more ambition; invest heavily to attain the play offs; not sell off our assets.

We saw posters in Dec and Jan saying we were still acting like “little Blackpool” still happy to exist with little ambition.

Sadler has invested heavily already. He’s covered a huge loss and got us to the Championship.
 
voyeur said:
Nobody is blaming the fans. Covid is obviously responsible for a lot of the 10 million quid, maybe half of it, but it doesn't alter the material fact that Sadler is millions out of pocket and seems keen to maximise revenue. Lowering prices to attract more people is an alternative strategy but it's not the strategy he's chosen. At the end of the day ST prices are lower than they were a few years ago and most games are priced at 24 quid which is lower than average for the division. The contentious issue is probably just the Cat A price, which I would personally scrap and just charge 24 for all games. Keep it simple.

Sadler obviously wants the extra 4 quid a head from the Forest and Blades fans, maybe 10 grand per game. I know Preston was Cat A, but how many have we had all season? If it's 5, that means 50k extra. Is it worth it? I'd argue not, as there is a dis-benefit of discouraging support and having a more confused price structure. Although it's only 4 quid, people make decisions and think, "bollocks, I'm not paying 28 quid." It's a psychologically bad tactic, I think, to up prices for attractive games. As said many times, many people are getting priced out of football, and Blackpool has more than its fair share of low income employment, seasonal work and unemployment. Sadler can't resolve all that, and it's not his responsibility. And a bigger stadium would facilitate lower prices. But the Cat A thing is a mistake in my opinion. Gives the wrong message, for a relatively small gain.
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No I was just saying we couldn't do much more, it wasn't like people took their money back enmasse, which a lot of fans got refunds at other clubs I think.

The fans have done all we can.

So because we have lost from covid in 'lesser' ways compared to others, but still large amounts in reality, its no reason to charge us more than some clubs.

But that's the reality, Blackpool, a poor town and a new club to the division is charging more at times than many established championships clubs.

No one could predict what happened and with respect you don't buy a football club if you cant afford it, with contingencies.

Although, as said its easy to say only a million here or there, its a lot of money and of course were thankful, but we are putting money in too which is all we can do also.

The season ticket price is fair, but many in the area can't and won't buy one, with work commitments etc. Also it's not the way to attract new fans.

New fans will want the big games and they are the ones where there is little capacity wirh the way we use the east and high prices.

Is it Sadler though or is it Mansford who will be running things day to day etc. He's the experienced chief executive, I'm sure Sadler is involved but is he setting every little cost or has he delegated.... do rich people even really know what people on the breadline can afford and does Mansford appreciate how much price can affect things? From listening to him its clear he knows about the area but the prices dont match when it's Cat a and walk on. The pre season friendly price etc etc. As said we can make a similar amount from attracting more for less and then the extra support could be the difference in willing the team over the line.

Obviously I agree abut the category A and also on the day increases etc.

There's still a lot on the prices side we can do to grow the fanbase.
 
JJpool said:
No I was just saying we couldn't do much more, it wasn't like people took their money back enmasse, which a lot of fans got refunds at other clubs I think.

The fans have done all we can.

So because we have lost from covid in 'lesser' ways compared to others, but still large amounts in reality, its no reason to charge us more than some clubs.

But that's the reality, Blackpool, a poor town and a new club to the division is charging more at times than many established championships clubs.

No one could predict what happened and with respect you don't buy a football club if you cant afford it, with contingencies.

Although, as said its easy to say only a million here or there, its a lot of money and of course were thankful, but we are putting money in too which is all we can do also.

The season ticket price is fair, but many in the area can't and won't buy one, with work commitments etc. Also it's not the way to attract new fans.

New fans will want the big games and they are the ones where there is little capacity wirh the way we use the east and high prices.

Is it Sadler though or is it Mansford who will be running things day to day etc. He's the experienced chief executive, I'm sure Sadler is involved but is he setting every little cost or has he delegated.... do rich people even really know what people on the breadline can afford and does Mansford appreciate how much price can affect things? From listening to him its clear he knows about the area but the prices dont match when it's Cat a and walk on. The pre season friendly price etc etc. As said we can make a similar amount from attracting more for less and then the extra support could be the difference in willing the team over the line.

Obviously I agree abut the category A and also on the day increases etc.

There's still a lot on the prices side we can do to grow the fanbase.
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All Championship club fans got there money back or frozen for this season that's why Brentford ST holders where quids in as they couldn't increase the ST price for existing holders.
 
poolseasider said:
All Championship club fans got there money back or frozen for this season that's why Brentford ST holders where quids in as they couldn't increase the ST price for existing holders.
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So goes to show the fans could not do more. When most others are getting it back, as after all its a product and they didn't get it.

So credit to them.
 
JJpool said:
No I was just saying we couldn't do much more, it wasn't like people took their money back enmasse, which a lot of fans got refunds at other clubs I think.

The fans have done all we can.

So because we have lost from covid in 'lesser' ways compared to others, but still large amounts in reality, its no reason to charge us more than some clubs.

But that's the reality, Blackpool, a poor town and a new club to the division is charging more at times than many established championships clubs.

No one could predict what happened and with respect you don't buy a football club if you cant afford it, with contingencies.

Although, as said its easy to say only a million here or there, its a lot of money and of course were thankful, but we are putting money in too which is all we can do also.

The season ticket price is fair, but many in the area can't and won't buy one, with work commitments etc. Also it's not the way to attract new fans.

New fans will want the big games and they are the ones where there is little capacity wirh the way we use the east and high prices.

Is it Sadler though or is it Mansford who will be running things day to day etc. He's the experienced chief executive, I'm sure Sadler is involved but is he setting every little cost or has he delegated.... do rich people even really know what people on the breadline can afford and does Mansford appreciate how much price can affect things? From listening to him its clear he knows about the area but the prices dont match when it's Cat a and walk on. The pre season friendly price etc etc. As said we can make a similar amount from attracting more for less and then the extra support could be the difference in willing the team over the line.

Obviously I agree abut the category A and also on the day increases etc.

There's still a lot on the prices side we can do to grow the fanbase.
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I'm not a fan of the Cat A prices either, but we will just have to suck it up, for now at least.
 
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