Being Prem ready?

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I think the last time we reached the Prem was a big enough surprise, I think if we did it again then it'd probably be even more of a shock considering where we've been. The question is what do we need to put in place now to be Prem ready and should the board be thinking of that scenario again?
 
Chatting with Seasiders yesterday there’s a fear of going up. We’d probably be like Norwich and get a kicking in there.
My only concern would be not relegation, as history says it’s probably likely but more so the bile that would be directed at manager and owner. Bournmouth getting rid of Howe, Blades removing a manager that loved the club and made them strong again etc

The balance to all this, is if lightning strikes again and we make it up there, Sadler would without any doubt use the money to benefit the club.
If he recouped some of his investment, I wouldn’t be too concerned as you know he’d invest further in the clubs legacy with the remainder and not blow it on overpaid players wages.
The East, the training ground, the academy structure and staff, local campaigns in the community and of course our scouting network.

It might be a car crash season but it would give us the chance to secure an exciting future.

Nice little dream to have
 
What modifications to the ground would need to be in place for a return to the Premiership ?

Im sure all goalposts on ground safety, policing, facilities ( particularly for away fans ) etc etc….have since changed since our season up there.
 
I can't imagine any scenario where a Pool fan would turn down the chance to go up. Yes we would get a likely trouncing at times and some fans would get frustrated with the poor results (this is all purely hypothetical), but we all would understand our respective context. Norwich go up and down like a yo-yo and have spent some big money (for them) this season and thus far have nothing to show for it. They even sold their best player prior to the start of the season; awful business and they deserve to be where they are.
 
Chunkylad said:
Chatting with Seasiders yesterday there’s a fear of going up. We’d probably be like Norwich and get a kicking in there.
My only concern would be not relegation, as history says it’s probably likely but more so the bile that would be directed at manager and owner. Bournmouth getting rid of Howe, Blades removing a manager that loved the club and made them strong again etc

The balance to all this, is if lightning strikes again and we make it up there, Sadler would without any doubt use the money to benefit the club.
If he recouped some of his investment, I wouldn’t be too concerned as you know he’d invest further in the clubs legacy with the remainder and not blow it on overpaid players wages.
The East, the training ground, the academy structure and staff, local campaigns in the community and of course our scouting network.

It might be a car crash season but it would give us the chance to secure an exciting future.

Nice little dream to have
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I'm not sure Bournemouth fans turned on Howe and leaving aside the obvious exceptions, I don't think we would either, as the credit in the manager's favour is massive.
 
Chunkylad said:
We didn’t in the main with Holloway so you’d like to think so Wiz?

That said, reading some of the posts last season and early this on here you never know….
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Easy now.

I'm awaiting the inevitable "if we're going to win the World Club Super Cup again, we really do need to upgrade Jimmy Husband" post from the usual suspects.

Add to that "What have we signed Madine again for? We need someone more mobile if we're going to defend the European Cup for a 4th time"

👍
 
A place in the PL should set up a club like ours up for life and guarantee you'll be either a yo yo club or a be a club like Burnley who manage to stay in the Prem by having a sensible budget, a good team spirit combined with a good work ethic headed by a good management team, as a bare minimum promotion to the PL it should enable you to be a decent Championship club which quite honestly I'd happily take bearing in mind the dark place we were in not that long ago. The O's showed everyone how not to behave when we reached the summit in 2010, I've got a feeling that Simon Saddler would show us how it should be done if ever we managed to get there again.
 
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we_are_Superior said:
I think the last time we reached the Prem was a big enough surprise, I think if we did it again then it'd probably be even more of a shock considering where we've been. The question is what do we need to put in place now to be Prem ready and should the board be thinking of that scenario again?
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I think we should be setting our sights on being a stable championship club first before getting giddy and going on about the Prem.
We've had a few cracking results over the last couple of months but we've done absolutely nothing yet this season.

It's great that the feel good factor is returning to Bloomfield Rd but please, let's walk before we run eh!!

Sorry if I put a damper on the thread but I'm just being realistic 🤷‍♂️
 
Whatever league we’re in, I’m happy as long as I see the whole club trying to be the best it can be and trying to provide a proud base for the people of the Fylde coast. It won’t always work and we’ll have difficult days and seasons on the pitch, but I’ve never wavered before and I’m not starting any time soon.

Re the op, I’m with most of the others. I’d never turn down a season in the Prem no matter how ready we are for it. If we get a drubbing everywhere, well ok. As long as the club recognised the future opportunities from the season then we can only come out of it better in the long run.

The other point about being in the PL is that attracts investors. Obviously we’d have to be cautious about who wanted to invest and why, but further investment should be a positive for club and area.
 
Wizzerboy said:
I think we should be setting our sights on being a stable championship club first before getting giddy and going on about the Prem.
We've had a few cracking results over the last couple of months but we've done absolutely nothing yet this season.

It's great that the feel good factor is returning to Bloomfield Rd but please, let's walk before we run eh!!

Sorry if I put a damper on the thread but I'm just being realistic 🤷‍♂️
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You are not putting a dampener on the thread. What you are doing is putting forward a view that says that Premiership is a definite possibility but a couple of solid years in the Championship would give us a better position to survive. Remember most of this squad are quite young and this is their first season at this level.
 
Agree with Dewster and Wizzerboy here, I am still of the opinion that we should consider survival as our number one priority, lets face it we have had our fair share of luck and yesterday was another example of that, looking at the games coming up Stoke and QPR were in the Prem not too long ago and are up there as well as us, once more we are playing "bigger" clubs who have far bigger budgets than us and boast a number of top players in their ranks. We are doing well, in fact really well but lets not get giddy as its a long season ahead.
 
td53 said:
Easy now.

I'm awaiting the inevitable "if we're going to win the World Club Super Cup again, we really do need to upgrade Jimmy Husband" post from the usual suspects.

Add to that "What have we signed Madine again for? We need someone more mobile if we're going to defend the European Cup for a 4th time"

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And we'd still be 11/2 to beat Sheff Utd!! 🤣
 
Raging_Bull said:
A place in the PL should set up a club like ours up for life and guarantee you'll be either a yo yo club or a be a club like Burnley who manage to stay in the Prem by having a sensible budget, a good team spirit combined with a good work ethic headed by a good management team, as a bare minimum promotion to the PL it should enable you to be a decent Championship club which quite honestly I'd happily take bearing in mind the dark place we were in not that long ago. The O's showed everyone how not to behave when we reached the summit in 2010, I've got a feeling that Simon Saddler would show us how it should be done if ever we managed to get there again.
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9 years Dyche has been manager there. The longevity is the key. Ask Man Utd and Arsenal fans. Ask Stoke fans 😂
I imagine there’s Burnley fans wanting Dyche replaced and when they do I can’t imagine the trajectory will be upwards?
 
This season, post-corona, makes top 6 far more likely then it usually would. Many clubs have not strenghtened, and economies have been poor. I expect us to not do a lot in January, but some clubs will, and we might slowly head towards 12-16th. If this dream keeps continuing, everything is possible 😍😍
 
chai_ste said:
Even if we only go up for 1 season, just take the money and run.

Spend it on the stadium, training ground, etc.

Use the parachute payments also to maintain consistency in the championship.
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Do you want to be a Burnley or a Norwich?

I’m sure Norwich fans would want more than getting hammered pretty much every game.
 
I think the club is a season or two too early for promotion to the Premiership NC & SS
are already getting young players into the club and it takes time to coach them
up to the level required to compete in the Premiership
 
SwannDangerous said:
Maybe the next time Norwich go up then it'll stick? 🤣🤣🤣
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They really are calamitously poor. It's weird. They keep nailing the champ then can't buy a goal, let alone a win the league up. It's really quite odd. I don't believe the bottom of the prem is magically so much better that they can't compete against anyone at all and yet, it seems as if it is.
 
we_are_Superior said:
I think the last time we reached the Prem was a big enough surprise, I think if we did it again then it'd probably be even more of a shock considering where we've been. The question is what do we need to put in place now to be Prem ready and should the board be thinking of that scenario again?
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The blueprint of the club is to invest in quality young players that can only improve, they have took the step from league 1 to the championship with aplomb, if and it’s a big IF should we shock the football world and go up this year they will of all stepped up to a new level and be ready with some quality additions for the big boys league.
 
td53 said:
They really are calamitously poor. It's weird. They keep nailing the champ then can't buy a goal, let alone a win the league up. It's really quite odd. I don't believe the bottom of the prem is magically so much better that they can't compete against anyone at all and yet, it seems as if it is.
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We got relegated straight away but at least we put up a bit of a fight! Got some decent wins against decent teams as well.

I think they are in real danger of coming straight back down without even a single win, possibly with the lowest points total ever recorded!
 
We need the training ground ground ideally in place before, if we were to go up.

We'd also want the new east in before too.

However they take time.

If somehow we went up this season, we'd be behind again with the stadium etc.

A mad summer dash to build an NE corner is probably the most we could hope for in that time frame.

Obviously no one doesn't want to go up, as if anything it hastens the delivery of these assets and the money is unbelievably helpful.

But it would be nice to not be playing catch up and limiting ourselves.

If we did go up and only had the temp east and some limited attendances, without scope to build the fanbase on what could be a one season wonder, you could be missing out on attracting as many as possible.
 
Wizzerboy said:
I think we should be setting our sights on being a stable championship club first before getting giddy and going on about the Prem.
We've had a few cracking results over the last couple of months but we've done absolutely nothing yet this season.

It's great that the feel good factor is returning to Bloomfield Rd but please, let's walk before we run eh!!

Sorry if I put a damper on the thread but I'm just being realistic 🤷‍♂️
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Agree totally. The Championship is the best league where any team can beat any other. There are three divisions in the Premier League. Why would we want to be in the bottom one getting battered?
 
we_are_Superior said:
I think the last time we reached the Prem was a big enough surprise, I think if we did it again then it'd probably be even more of a shock considering where we've been. The question is what do we need to put in place now to be Prem ready and should the board be thinking of that scenario again?
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I have big hopes for this season and for one want us to go up, I firmly beleive in the players and critch. I think its possible... I think other fans can be very negative and I wish they had faith too, The team can feel that shit. We are waaaaaaaaaaaaay past staying up and more into, 'Are we going up automatic or through the playoffs?' Just by our performances and ethos alone, Ive heard people say id rather stay here and build, My answer is NO, If we go up we will get paracute payments which Sadler will spend on the team, Critch will also be more inclined to stay with us. If we went down (which i dont think we would) So ** what ? We will have made history AGAIN... Built character AGAIN.... Made a huge statement AGAIN... We'd be going down a stronger team and most likely come back up. Lets beleive in what we are worth, We are an amazing club with amazing fans and amazing spirit. Blackpool ** FC
 
It's too early to even think about it yet but it really is a catch 22 situation. If we did have a good season and say just finish outside the top 6 its likely that Critch's stock will be so high he could be tempted away. There could be big bids in for players that have proved they could really cut it. The club could be back to square one whereas promotion the club would be awash with cash and no one would want or need to leave.

Even if we came straight back down projects the Oystons should have seen to would, with SS at the helm would surely get done.

Anyway for now lets just concentrate on getting 55 points to ensure our Championship status but I would never turn down another promotion.
 
Raging_Bull said:
A place in the PL should set up a club like ours up for life and guarantee you'll be either a yo yo club or a be a club like Burnley who manage to stay in the Prem by having a sensible budget, a good team spirit combined with a good work ethic headed by a good management team, as a bare minimum promotion to the PL it should enable you to be a decent Championship club which quite honestly I'd happily take bearing in mind the dark place we were in not that long ago. The O's showed everyone how not to behave when we reached the summit in 2010, I've got a feeling that Simon Saddler would show us how it should be done if ever we managed to get there again.
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You seem to be one of the few talking sense, I know for a fact we can do it. Some of our fans are so pessimistic its untrue. Its honestly boring, the kind of people i avoid at all costs lol... Where we are currently sat in the championship, the performances we have put in... We are more than capable of going up.... People talking shite about 'staying up' We are way way way past that. I dont even think we are in our prime yet... Theres still another level of quality there that we will reach. Some of these cats dont even deserve to see us go up, this negativity is shambolic Big keogh would smash they faces in haha
 
Raging_Bull said:
A place in the PL should set up a club like ours up for life and guarantee you'll be either a yo yo club or a be a club like Burnley who manage to stay in the Prem by having a sensible budget, a good team spirit combined with a good work ethic headed by a good management team, as a bare minimum promotion to the PL it should enable you to be a decent Championship club which quite honestly I'd happily take bearing in mind the dark place we were in not that long ago. The O's showed everyone how not to behave when we reached the summit in 2010, I've got a feeling that Simon Saddler would show us how it should be done if ever we managed to get there again.
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I won’t type a reply as this sums up my thoughts
 
I don’t think we should really be thinking about qualifying for a European spot at this stage. Let’s just get the promotion over and done with and at least establish ourselves in the Prem for a few seasons before we think about pushing on again.👍
 
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Anorthstandlad said:
I have big hopes for this season and for one want us to go up, I firmly beleive in the players and critch. I think its possible... I think other fans can be very negative and I wish they had faith too, The team can feel that shit. We are waaaaaaaaaaaaay past staying up and more into, 'Are we going up automatic or through the playoffs?' Just by our performances and ethos alone, Ive heard people say id rather stay here and build, My answer is NO, If we go up we will get paracute payments which Sadler will spend on the team, Critch will also be more inclined to stay with us. If we went down (which i dont think we would) So ** what ? We will have made history AGAIN... Built character AGAIN.... Made a huge statement AGAIN... We'd be going down a stronger team and most likely come back up. Lets beleive in what we are worth, We are an amazing club with amazing fans and amazing spirit. Blackpool ** FC
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Yeh, right on brother.
It's, just that I don't get giddy by a run of good results, in the same way I won't be reaching for the razor blades if we hit the buffers. It's being realistic.

Of course I'd like Blackpool to get promoted but I don't buy into this "if we went down so what" attitude.
I was listening to talk sport on the way home from work today and I'll tell you the Norwich fans are far from happy watching their team get battered every week and I'd have a virtual bet the Derby fans didn't enjoy their season in the Prem being the record breakers they were.

If and when Blackpool returns to the premier league I'd like them to have at least half a chance of staying there next time. I understand that some want us to be like how WBA and Norwich are now and how Sunderland and Charlton used to be. I'd much prefer us to do a Burnley and have a few seasons up there.

The problem we have in society today is that everything is instant and as such that's how people more often than not live their lives.
There's a great saying, all good things comes to he who waits.

Have faith my friend , not blind faith though and relish the moment even more when we eventually do gain promotion.
 
Wizzerboy said:
Yeh, right on brother.
It's, just that I don't get giddy by a run of good results, in the same way I won't be reaching for the razor blades if we hit the buffers. It's being realistic.

Of course I'd like Blackpool to get promoted but I don't buy into this "if we went down so what" attitude.
I was listening to talk sport on the way home from work today and I'll tell you the Norwich fans are far from happy watching their team get battered every week and I'd have a virtual bet the Derby fans didn't enjoy their season in the Prem being the record breakers they were.

If and when Blackpool returns to the premier league I'd like them to have at least half a chance of staying there next time. I understand that some want us to be like how WBA and Norwich are now and how Sunderland and Charlton used to be. I'd much prefer us to do a Burnley and have a few seasons up there.

The problem we have in society today is that everything is instant and as such that's how people more often than not live their lives.
There's a great saying, all good things comes to he who waits.

Have faith my friend , not blind faith though and relish the moment even more when we eventually do gain promotion.
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No point waiting… we might as well just go up this season and worry about the rest when we get there.

The right time for a promotion is always ‘right now’
 
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BFC_BFC_BFC said:
No point eating… we might as well just go up this season and worry about the rest when we get there.

The right time for a promotion is always ‘right now’
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Thats the one pal, People saying why would we want to be the ones getting battered exe, How dull and negative once again, Sadler would invest in the team we have a world class manager we would be ok and if we did go down - Thats another parachute payment and wed be back in the championship - Best way here is to go up IMO. Lets use these guys negative thinking against them - If we did stay in the championship and 'build' what happens if we have a really shit season loads of injuries Critch leaves and we get relegated Thats league one football again foooking brilliant !! Hurt my head just having to think like a pessimist to write that HAHA. Lets stop being soppy fuckers and think positively :) HAHA
 
Wizzerboy said:
Yeh, right on brother.
It's, just that I don't get giddy by a run of good results, in the same way I won't be reaching for the razor blades if we hit the buffers. It's being realistic.

Of course I'd like Blackpool to get promoted but I don't buy into this "if we went down so what" attitude.
I was listening to talk sport on the way home from work today and I'll tell you the Norwich fans are far from happy watching their team get battered every week and I'd have a virtual bet the Derby fans didn't enjoy their season in the Prem being the record breakers they were.

If and when Blackpool returns to the premier league I'd like them to have at least half a chance of staying there next time. I understand that some want us to be like how WBA and Norwich are now and how Sunderland and Charlton used to be. I'd much prefer us to do a Burnley and have a few seasons up there.

The problem we have in society today is that everything is instant and as such that's how people more often than not live their lives.
There's a great saying, all good things comes to he who waits.

Have faith my friend , not blind faith though and relish the moment even more when we eventually do gain promotion.
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I understand the thinking bud, I just believe, i really have a good feeling about this, I know people want everything now, i learned the hard way with that early on. Thats not to say we cant do it bud, I have faith in simon and critch i think we would do fine. I wouldnt want to do a burnley to be honest fighting for a draw every week !
 
Just imagine it for keogh, played for years grafting his heart out and never made it to the prem.

Comes to little blackpool and gets there at the first time of asking in the twilight of his career! It would be ** amazing! I reckon he would cry with happiness!
 
Chunkylad said:
Chatting with Seasiders yesterday there’s a fear of going up. We’d probably be like Norwich and get a kicking in there.
My only concern would be not relegation, as history says it’s probably likely but more so the bile that would be directed at manager and owner. Bournmouth getting rid of Howe, Blades removing a manager that loved the club and made them strong again etc

The balance to all this, is if lightning strikes again and we make it up there, Sadler would without any doubt use the money to benefit the club.
If he recouped some of his investment, I wouldn’t be too concerned as you know he’d invest further in the clubs legacy with the remainder and not blow it on overpaid players wages.
The East, the training ground, the academy structure and staff, local campaigns in the community and of course our scouting network.

It might be a car crash season but it would give us the chance to secure an exciting future.

Nice little dream to have
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the east stand and training ground renovations have already been approved ive seen the blueprints.
 
Firstly, any club inside the playoffs at game 15 will naturally talk about the possibility of promotion - I think some fans are reluctant to purely because we are a newly promoted team. But to me that's irrelevant. Clubs can and do get back to back promotions, and 15 games is a third of the season and more than enough to suggest we are capable. It's extremely difficult, yes, but we deserve to be where we are.

Secondly, I was on the pessimist side and didn't think it would be realistic....up until the Reading away game. We went to a club who were themselves looking to move into the playoffs, went 2-0 down and yet completely outplayed them to the extent we managed to come back to win. It made me wonder what actually is possible with this team, because that result was no fluke at all. Not only that, but Carey and Dale showed they are two more players who are very good indeed and we haven't really utilised them yet. We haven't needed to.

Thirdly, when a promotion chance comes along, you grab it with both hands and don't let go. You can go for years without one. All this talk of it being too soon I don't agree with at all, it's never too soon for a windfall of £100m+ that we know would go towards the betterment of the club.
 
BFC_53 said:
Firstly, any club inside the playoffs at game 15 will naturally talk about the possibility of promotion - I think some fans are reluctant to purely because we are a newly promoted team. But to me that's irrelevant. Clubs can and do get back to back promotion, and 15 games in is a third of the season and more than enough to suggest we are capable. It's extremely difficult, yes, but we deserve to be where we are.

Secondly, I was on the pessimist side and didn't think it would be realistic....up until the Reading away game. We went to a club who were themselves looking to move into the playoffs, went 2-0 down and yet completely outplayed them to the extent we managed to come back to win. It made me wonder what actually is possible with this team, because that result was no fluke at all. Not only that, but Carey and Dale showed they are two more players who are very good indeed and we haven't really utilised them yet. We haven't needed to.

Thirdly, when a promotion chance comes along, you grab it with both hands and don't let go. You can go for years without one. All this talk of it being too soon I don't agree with at all, it's never too soon for a windfall of £100m+ that we know would go towards the betterment of the club.
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Definitely with Sadler in charge 🍊⚽️🧡👍
 
BFC_53 said:
Firstly, any club inside the playoffs at game 15 will naturally talk about the possibility of promotion - I think some fans are reluctant to purely because we are a newly promoted team. But to me that's irrelevant. Clubs can and do get back to back promotions, and 15 games is a third of the season and more than enough to suggest we are capable. It's extremely difficult, yes, but we deserve to be where we are.

Secondly, I was on the pessimist side and didn't think it would be realistic....up until the Reading away game. We went to a club who were themselves looking to move into the playoffs, went 2-0 down and yet completely outplayed them to the extent we managed to come back to win. It made me wonder what actually is possible with this team, because that result was no fluke at all. Not only that, but Carey and Dale showed they are two more players who are very good indeed and we haven't really utilised them yet. We haven't needed to.

Thirdly, when a promotion chance comes along, you grab it with both hands and don't let go. You can go for years without one. All this talk of it being too soon I don't agree with at all, it's never too soon for a windfall of £100m+ that we know would go towards the betterment of the club.
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Great to hear this pal, this too soon stuff is ludacris. Loved what you said :)
 
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