Tons of Apples
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Does this headline in the Gazette and the sale of Bowler show that this is the way it's going to be in the future - we're a selling club and best not get too used to our favourite players?
..,.and long it may continue. SS is not an Oystons bud will reinvestSS made it very clear from the outset that this was a cornerstone of the club going forward, developing and selling at a high profit.
And I’m comfortable with it as a strategy and l wasn’t too upset when Josh went as it was inevitable, we move on!..,.and long it may continue. SS is not an Oystons bud will reinvest
It's the only way that a club like ours can make progress.It’s all relative. Selling your best players and replacing with Mason Flotsam and Diego Jetsam is a sure fire way to devalue and denigrate your football club. Investing in recruitment to ensure you’re replacing well and (hopefully) improving the overall squad level and investing profits into the wider infrastructure of the club to build revenue generation is a long-term model for growth. Appreciate that’s not good enough for the ‘I want it now’ brigade, but it’s true.
Poveda, although only on loan, may well be a better player IMOAnd I’m comfortable with it as a strategy and l wasn’t too upset when Josh went as it was inevitable, we move on!
Equally selling your best players and replacing them with loans is the opposite of the model and limits the stage for your homies to shine, should you sign more than one.It’s all relative. Selling your best players and replacing with Mason Flotsam and Diego Jetsam is a sure fire way to devalue and denigrate your football club. Investing in recruitment to ensure you’re replacing well and (hopefully) improving the overall squad level and investing profits into the wider infrastructure of the club to build revenue generation is a long-term model for growth. Appreciate that’s not good enough for the ‘I want it now’ brigade, but it’s true.
I just hope it is not as soon as January though. He is one hell of a player.Does this headline in the Gazette and the sale of Bowler show that this is the way it's going to be in the future - we're a selling club and best not get too used to our favourite players?
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There’s always an argument about taking younger players on loan and developing them for the better of their clubs, but if helps us in the short term then it can only be good.Poveda, although only on loan, may well be a better player IMO
We have bought 3 prospects with the Bowler cash from what I can tellEqually selling your best players and replacing them with loans is the opposite of the model and limits the stage for your homies to shine, should you sign more than one.
Yes but I think it's a strategy involving a number of complementary routes. Buy and develop young talent to both improve the club's position in the league and to sell on at a profit. The loans, meanwhile can't gain us the profit but can improve our league position so that we can attract better full-time players. Also do well with the kian players and it improves our standing with the big clubs to obtain better loan players.Equally selling your best players and replacing them with loans is the opposite of the model and limits the stage for your homies to shine, should you sign more than one.
You've forgotten about the Intergalactic Super League starting in 2250 when Moonchester United go and buy our best player.As things currently stand, this is obviously how we will operate until we become the richest club in the world.
Yep. Agree completely founts and I think we've an over-reliance on loanees in the current squad that suggests we've either not got a big enough budget or we got our approach wrong in the summer.Equally selling your best players and replacing them with loans is the opposite of the model and limits the stage for your homies to shine, should you sign more than one.
Didn’t they sell Watkins to Villa for about £20m and bought Toney in for £10-12m? And who seems to be the better player now.It's the only way that a club like ours can make progress.
Brentford are a prime example of what can be achieved with a system for identifying and investing in talent and selling and reselling.
Toney must currently be worth in the region of 50 million.
50-60 years ago .We need to get back to the days of 20,000 plus gates.
Good loans made and Appleton said not to read anything into it but he is hoping some of those loans turn into buysYep. Agree completely founts and I think we've an over-reliance on loanees in the current squad that suggests we've either not got a big enough budget or we got our approach wrong in the summer.
Equally, the 'payback' from loan players in the past has been hit and miss to say the least. You can - and we often do - end up in the situation where we're allowing a player make mistakes for us on behalf of his development for a 'bigger' club.
I know, but why is it not achievable now? As the Middlesbrough thread shows, we have a population in close proximity similar to theirs.50-60 years ago .
There's not a chance in hell we're turning Patino into a perm signing. Highly doubtful for Fiorini and Podeva too. Theo is a possibility.Good loans made and Appleton said not to read anything into it but he is hoping some of those loans turn into buys
Really depends if they want to be bench warmers, Prem league development, or playing most weeks.There's not a chance in hell we're turning Patino into a perm signing. Highly doubtful for Fiorini and Podeva too. Theo is a possibility.
The dev squad is an interesting way to get the players before they potentially become beyond our reach.I think people need to remember the development squad is brand new and that it will take a couple of seasons (unless we’re very lucky) for those players and our youth team players to progress to a point where they’re not only in and around the first team but quality championship level players - until that happens loan signings will be a central part of our transfer business. It’s a smart business model. If the 18 year old signed for £200k takes 2 seasons to develop into first team player but then becomes a top player on a long term contract (and in the meantime loans can allow for this development time) it’s a lot better than the club signing a 26/27 year old for 7 figures and a relatively massive contract and then having a limited sell on value.
A string of 20,21 and 22 year olds breaking into the first team squad over the next 3/4 seasons and proving themselves as good championship players and top prospects wil ultimately bring in millions down the line. We’ve just got to keep that conveyor belt moving and get the infrastructure in place alongside it
It’s a big gamble by Sadler as if it fails it’ll be 3/4 million quid down the drain until that’s probably obvious and in the meantime money is also essentially thrown away on loans too as opposed to another model.
It’s very ambitious whichever you look at it tbh although I do think some of our fans aren’t quite seeing it as they’re looking for a model we’re simply not following.
Ajax. End of debate.Its a Business, even the biggest clubs in the world operate this way.
Maybe because our capacity is less than 20k+m but maybe when the new East is up, we can do thatI know, but why is it not achievable now? As the Middlesbrough thread shows, we have a population in close proximity similar to theirs.
When was our last home game with over 20000 in attendance? 70s presumably? Bolton 1-0 (Ronson) 77 ish?50-60 years ago .
DJ, Dobbie and Coleman. All loans without whom we wouldn't have got to the Prem.Yep. Agree completely founts and I think we've an over-reliance on loanees in the current squad that suggests we've either not got a big enough budget or we got our approach wrong in the summer.
Equally, the 'payback' from loan players in the past has been hit and miss to say the least. You can - and we often do - end up in the situation where we're allowing a player make mistakes for us on behalf of his development for a 'bigger' club.
Don't get me wrong; there's a time and place and some loanees will be great and give us access to players we couldn't afford. But there's a difference between DJ, Dobbie, Paul Dickov or even Charlie and untried EPL kids who are supposed to be world beaters, but haven't a clue what real football is like. Even Seamus spent 3 years at Sligo, learning his trade before moving to Everton.DJ, Dobbie and Coleman. All loans without whom we wouldn't have got to the Prem.
Fair point.Don't get me wrong; there's a time and place and some loanees will be great and give us access to players we couldn't afford. But there's a difference between DJ, Dobbie, Paul Dickov or even Charlie and untried EPL kids who are supposed to be world beaters, but haven't a clue what real football is like. Even Seamus spent 3 years at Sligo, learning his trade before moving to Everton.
For every Ellis Simms there's a Tyreece John-Jules.