Kettlebelly
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Not interested in those wanting to air their thoughts after 10 games. Question is pretty simple.......
Absolutely agree. Far too early to be calling for a root and branch change. You can’t keep replacing the manager, and therefore the team, just because you have a bad (bloody dreadful) run.It's been atrocious at times, anyone saying any different has been watching different games to the ones I have, but that doesn't mean it's time to sack everyone and start again. Again.
This is not looking good
yes have a punt on 1or 2 lower league player's one might pay off but definitely don't base your whole team round them.
It's looking like men against boys all these teams we're facing have seasoned pro's and management of which are street wise in this league im thinking this could get a lot worse as everyone knows once your down at the bottom its hard to get out everything seems to conspire against you.
Infact since Simon purchased the club player recruitment has been very poor
this is down to bad management who's responsible take your pick
Mansfield /Johnson /Grayson /Crichley.
I don't like to say this but if you look back at Owen Oystons last year at the helm we were bring in a better standard of player.
My honest answer is I have no idea.Absolutely agree. Far too early to be calling for a root and branch change. You can’t keep replacing the manager, and therefore the team, just because you have a bad (bloody dreadful) run.
I suppose though the next question is, if things continue in this fashion, when is the right time? 10 games? 15? 20? Or end of the season?
I'm very frugal with theseAgree with what your saying Finfind but can you please use some full stops. Your sentences are massive, and it is extremely difficult to follow your thoughts. Just saying.
My thoughts to a tee also but unless the team can set themselves out soon it won’t be consolidation.I think we got a bit over confident in our preseason games against higher placed opponents & whilst we conceded a lot of goals we also managed to score quite a few & play some nice passing football, then the thought process was we should be ok against the lower league teams, as we will score more than them even if we concede a few. That's not happened & whilst Premier league sides generally allow you more time, in league 1 you are harried, closed down & this has stifled us to the extent even the goals have almost dried up, coupled with individual errors (that sounds very McMahon like I seen to remember) I also think he took time to realise the ability of the players at this level. Myself included I thought wow this looks like a new chapter as we looked capable of destroying teams in league 1. It's now clear that NC will have to adapt a way of playing which will incorporate aspects of his high press whilst doing the ugly things as well, coupled with all the players getting some sort of understanding in playing as a team. It remains to be seen if enough of this mass of players recruited are up to the challenge & with sufficient attributes to fill all that's needed in every area on the pitch. With all the chopping & changing I haven't got a clue what our best 11 would be. Yesterday we played a decent settled side with some quality players & it showed, fortunately we won't play teams like that every week, most of our games so far we have lost as a result of bad mistakes, rather than being out played. So my recalibrated expectations for this season have to be to consolidate as if we had just come up from league 2. This is where we will find out if the management team & players are up to it. I'll try to remain positive the sun is shining & it's time to take the dog out & stop worrying about something I can't do anything about.
Yep I agree with thatI'm not arsed we haven't got Liverpool players. I didn't like the 'oh, we can become Liverpool B!' excitement anyway.
I think Tim's other podcast point was what resonates with me.
What I am most bothered about is the stasis on games when we don't seem to be reacting to what other teams do or changing to respond to circumstances. Swapping positions, making subs, switching flanks etc.
I'm happy to keep trotting out 'time, patience, new players' and coming to each Saturday with an optimism that it will click this week but if our players are sometimes naive or fresh, then so is our manager and he needs to learn from what Evans, Lambert, Coleman, Appleton and Lowe have done by making changes or setting up in a particular way before games and thus influencing what happens.
Every game the other manager looks more proactive. Even yesterday, Ipswich subbed first and used all three. They were 3-0 up! We waited till 70 mins and made one.
We play the way we play the way we play works when you're flying high, but if you're not, you have to search for that way that works and sometimes that takes place within games.
Substitute regress for progress!Work in progress
Heard this improve Plan A shit so often from Mark Warburton at Rangers. And no he didn’t do soBut according to Scrafton a few weeks ago when he spoke to Critchley the Plan B was to make Plan A better
Tell that to Michael Appleton, they won the first 4 games. 9 of the 11 that played against us were new signings. Doh!!!We will be fine - anyone who thinks a brand new team will not take time to gel is either an idiot - or knows nothing about the game!!
Im sure Sadler will have a good idea nowI've commented at length on this previously so in summary:
So....
- I'm very happy that the owner and manager are being bold and trying a root and branch experiment of running this club and side very differently for a club at this level. I'm bored of that same old so if Sadler is up for the risk then why not!
- I'd stick with it at least until Christmas but it may as well be the whole season, and I think Sadler will do so. If we don't then it will have been a complete waste of time even trying this change.
- I absolutely want this experiment to succeed because for me the long term benefits if it works out far outweigh the risk of something like relegation.
- I don't believe Critchley or Sadler are perfect. Nobody in football ever is.
- I wouldn't have taken such a punt to have no real experience/quality at CB or centre mid. Definitely not when the plan is to create a new squad of young, raw players. The new centre backs hopefully can improve stability but we still possibly won't have a captain or a midfield 'rock' to rely on.
- I think the manager has shown inexperience in some on the pitch decisions but that's because he is inexperienced. I wouldn't object if Sadler got Critchley access to some experienced advice just so he has a different view offered to him.
- I agree with having 'plan B', but we haven't got 'plan A' close to right yet so I'd rather manager and squad concentrated on that.
- We will get tonked in more games yet this season - some will be unlucky defeats playing the right way, some will be performances like Ipswich that are without real effort and just awful from all angles. I can handle the former but won't make excuses for the later.
If Sadler is going full on to give this approach a go and willing to risk money failing spectacularly then for me he earned the right when he bought the club and made all the improvements he already has.
- I'm behind this experiment until it works or the owner pulls the plug. Not like we have any choice anyway because Sadler is doing it whatever!
- I still reserve the right to call a shocker if it is justified.