‘Professional’ fouls

[Lanc_seasider]

What’s everyone’s take on a cynical professional foul. I listen to a podcast where the presenter spoke about how Carey’s was 100% a red and it should be a red card every single time if there’s no intention of playing the ball. He said claims that there would then be 4 or 5 red cards a match if that was the case are false because it doesn’t happen that often. It happened at least twice against Blackburn for us.

I can’t make my mind up. On the one hand there is nothing more infuriating than playing on the counter and a good attack forming before being wiped out by a defender with no intentions of playing the ball. But on the other hand, I will stand and applaud if one of our players did it and stopped a dangerous attack.

I think, and I could be swayed, that I side with the argument as annoying and infuriating as it can be, it is just a part of the game. In the same way it’s annoying when a side winning by a goal will take the ball into the corner and shield and continuously kick it against the defender for a throw in. I think a yellow card suffices. I don’t think Carey’s was a red, and there was been numerous inconsistencies since with referees deciding against it being a red offence.

Just interested to gage the general opinion on this.

 

[tangerinespud]

Yellow cards all day long. If Carey was shown a yellow there would be no continuing debate.
The ref at Burnley set the bar that every “shit house “ / cynical foul now on involving against us is red card worthy.

 

[Just Looking]

Red card every time. It is outright cheating in the same way as a player using their hand to stop a goal.
My initial thought on Carey's challenge was it was a red. From my view at Burnley he made no attempt to play the ball. What really annoys me is the inconsistency. It's always a yellow against us (Cardiff on Lavery at home last season, QPR on Keshi at home, Stoke at home on multiple occasions, Peterborough away during Covid I think and Blackburn on Bowler)

What makes it worse is when a player gets a red card when making a legitimate attempt to play a ball but is a fraction late or catches a player above the ankle. This is deemed as endangering the safety of an opponent yet a deliberate foul with no intent to play the ball seems to be acceptable.

 

[Hooked1964]

There is hardly a game goes by without there being a professional foul to prevent a team from breaking out and whilst I have always thought these should be a red card I feel there is scope for an amber card which attracts a sin bin punishment for at least 20mins.
The player can jog up and down the touchline like the subs do or sit on an exercise bike like you see at rugby. There needs to be a punishment that is more than yellow card infringement.

 

[foggy]

It's completely nonsensical that footballing authorities allow this to continue. Counter attacks and exciting football stopped 90% of times before they can occur because you can just foul them. It's been Man City's best form of defence for years.

Why let your product suffer like this? Other leagues around the world change rules when they see that the rules are being abused in a way that makes their product less fun - and so should football. Make it a 5-10 minute sin bin for the offender and then see how well the game starts flowing as a result.

 

[TangerinePeel]

Red card every time. It is outright cheating in the same way as a player using their hand to stop a goal.
My initial thought on Carey's challenge was it was a red. From my view at Burnley he made no attempt to play the ball. What really annoys me is the inconsistency. It's always a yellow against us (Cardiff on Lavery at home last season, QPR on Keshi at home, Stoke at home on multiple occasions, Peterborough away during Covid I think and Blackburn on Bowler)

What makes it worse is when a player gets a red card when making a legitimate attempt to play a ball but is a fraction late or catches a player above the ankle. This is deemed as endangering the safety of an opponent yet a deliberate foul with no intent to play the ball seems to be acceptable.

You've hit the nail on the head, the inconsistency in the reffing surrounding professional fouls is what's frustrating. Why was it only a yellow for multiple of our attacks being prevented with a professional foul but when we do it, it's a red?

It's either a red or yellow, or make something new up.

 

[1966_and_all_that]

At least Carey looked like he was trying to make a tackle. The Blackburn lad's pull-back on Bowler had no such pretence. It ruined a potentially good move by a player whom the public want to watch. For me, that makes it an automatic red - last man or not.