Good man!

I don't think half a million people marching and asking for a ceasefire / end to killing is support for terrorism. Maybe it is in your world Phil.

I wouldn't mind, but the people causing most of the mayhem in the capital on the day in question were your mates in the Football Lads Alliance.
Maybe not, but a lot were actively supporting terrorism by chanting for Hamas and the Houthi. Don’t know what marches you were watching, but it was pretty evident.
 
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Would you shut down a Nazi conference? No? Is that the free speech you want? I would suggest you look to history. Every one of our forefathers who fought in WW2 - Tory or Labour voter - would have it shut down. I know that my grandfather - Tory voter - who was in Germany at the end of the War, would have shot any German who attempted to stand on a far-right platform.
Have you quoted the right person with that loaded question and strawman response?

Kind of goes without saying but as it happens I've got no time for Nazis...

Not sure how this has descended into a discussion about that after posting that the natcon was rightly overturned.

Weird post. Not interested in discussing any of that, this thread was about a legal political conference and the fact it got overturned was the right decision, everyone agrees.
 
Really?

It looked like an anti Israel march to me
To be fair to Wiz who is not the best with figures and percentages, it definitely looked like an anti-semitic march to me too, although Id question the amount Phil.

Can't say it looked like a ceasefire message that was lasered onto the Houses of Parliament either.

Some people who are just plain bigoted can't see the truth when its been shouted or pointed at them.
 
To be fair to Wiz who is not the best with figures and percentages, it definitely looked like an anti-semitic march to me too, although Id question the amount Phil.

Can't say it looked like a ceasefire message that was lasered onto the Houses of Parliament either.

Some people who are just plain bigoted can't see the truth when its been shouted or pointed at them.
Yes. I agree there a lot of bigoted people around.

But if you accept that most of the marchers weren’t Muslim extremists, and were in fact people you grew up with (ie white and quite conservative with a small C) but who were unhappy with indiscriminate bombing of civilians, then it paints a very different picture.
 
I have never watched a Tommy Robinson video diary, what's it about?
Tiny little confused fella bangs on about something he's ** clueless about, starts off trying to look reasonable then usually gets angry and frustrated, ends up in jail then repeats the process.

See also Joey Barton.
 
Yes. I agree there a lot of bigoted people around.

But if you accept that most of the marchers weren’t Muslim extremists, and were in fact people you grew up with (ie white and quite conservative with a small C) but who were unhappy with indiscriminate bombing of civilians, then it paints a very different picture.
Mex, if I'm truly realistic, I would say you were correct and the majority of marchers did want a ceasefire, but there was a hell of a lot who were proffering terrorist ideals on the back of these marches.
 
Farage came outside and spoke to the cameras for about 10 minutes. He got more coverage than he would have done if the conference had gone ahead.
Freedom of speech.
I still didn't listen or read what he was blabbering on about. Was it of any value or interest or was it all about "Nige"?
 
Would you shut down a Nazi conference? No? Is that the free speech you want? I would suggest you look to history. Every one of our forefathers who fought in WW2 - Tory or Labour voter - would have it shut down. I know that my grandfather - Tory voter - who was in Germany at the end of the War, would have shot any German who attempted to stand on a far-right platform.
The laughing emoji reply from @Phil_bfc deux is pathetic. Make your point or move on.
 
Have you quoted the right person with that loaded question and strawman response?

Kind of goes without saying but as it happens I've got no time for Nazis...

Not sure how this has descended into a discussion about that after posting that the natcon was rightly overturned.

Weird post. Not interested in discussing any of that, this thread was about a legal political conference and the fact it got overturned was the right decision, everyone agrees.
I Don't agree. I'll make my own decision about who you appear to have time for.
 
I Don't agree. I'll make my own decision about who you appear to have time for.
You have no idea and to come out with what you did was pathetic.

Who do I appear to have time for? Based on me saying the conference shouldn’t have been cancelled and the Belgian prime minister and many others aggreed.

What on earth are you trying to draw from that...

You seem to be making stuff up you seem to want to be true based of absolutely nothing and coming completely out the blue.

Utterly bizarre and I suggest you stop.
 
You have no idea and to come out with what you did was pathetic.

Who do I appear to have time for? Based on me saying the conference shouldn’t have been cancelled and the Belgian prime minister and many others aggreed.

What on earth are you trying to draw from that...

You seem to be making stuff up you seem to want to be true based of absolutely nothing and coming completely out the blue.

Utterly bizarre and I suggest you stop.
The lefty boys on this site and in general are crazy.

Their hatred for right of centre politicians holds no bounds.

Mad.
 
You have no idea and to come out with what you did was pathetic.

Who do I appear to have time for? Based on me saying the conference shouldn’t have been cancelled and the Belgian prime minister and many others aggreed.

What on earth are you trying to draw from that...

You seem to be making stuff up you seem to want to be true based of absolutely nothing and coming completely out the blue.

Utterly bizarre and I suggest you stop.
OK. I just think that the likes of Farage and Truss are anti-democratic. However, that's my view and I understand where you're coming from with the free speech angle. Tolerance is a virtue but it shouldn't extend to tolerating the intolerant.
 
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The top and bottom of the whole situation is, as I see it:

How many knew the conference was taking place?

How many now know the conference was taking place?

Had it been a left wing meeting would the same rules have been applied?

Who really cares?
 
The top and bottom of the whole situation is, as I see it:

How many knew the conference was taking place?

How many now know the conference was taking place?

Had it been a left wing meeting would the same rules have been applied?

Who really cares?
The best bit of all this is that the mayor now looks a right tw@t as the conference has gained more publicity than it would have before

Its also make a few posters on this thread look a bit silly
 
Yep, reputable, world-respected news sources all the way for me. They have the edge over "The Tommy Robinson Video Diaries".
Is that when it suits? The looney left on here were quick to castigate when i quoted a BBC article regarding the IDF killing of the seven aid workers. Maybe this anti Israeli stance the left adopt on here is a bit more than that in their sub-consciousness.

Oh and i see that the term "RWNJ" has been allowed to remain unchecked but use the term looney left and some seem quick on here to get it reprted and removed. The moderation on here as Phil points out is nothing short of disgraceful with it's bias.
 
OK. I just think that the likes of Farage and Truss are anti-democratic. However, that's my view and I understand where you're coming from with the free speech angle. Tolerance is a virtue but it shouldn't extend to tolerating the intolerant.
Farage and Truss may be on the right but aren't anywhere near the real extreme ends, if anyone genuinely believes that they might need to research about the real extreme ends that exist.

People are far too quick to try and label these days.
 
Farage and Truss may be on the right but aren't anywhere near the real extreme ends, if anyone genuinely believes that they might need to research about the real extreme ends that exist.

People are far too quick to try and label these days.
This far right tag people get is bollux

Far right is the old national front and combat 18

This government aren't far right neither are Anderson, Truss, Farage, Braverman or anybody else in mainstream politics

Its just lazy and the media make it worse
 
This far right tag people get is bollux

Far right is the old national front and combat 18

This government aren't far right neither are Anderson, Truss, Farage, Braverman or anybody else in mainstream politics

Its just lazy and the media make it worse
Much the same as 'Leftie' for anyone who dares show a hint of compassion these days.
 
Is that when it suits? The looney left on here were quick to castigate when i quoted a BBC article regarding the IDF killing of the seven aid workers. Maybe this anti Israeli stance the left adopt on here is a bit more than that in their sub-consciousness.

Oh and i see that the term "RWNJ" has been allowed to remain unchecked but use the term looney left and some seem quick on here to get it reprted and removed. The moderation on here as Phil points out is nothing short of disgraceful with it's bias.
Ha, so I'm loony left but you don't like being called a RWNJ? Seems fair 😳 😂
 
Much the same as 'Leftie' for anyone who dares show a hint of compassion these days.
Yeah but you don't get called left wing nut jobs or some sort of derogatory name based on meat from a pig or even the lazy stereotypical far right label

I don't think i know one far right person
 
Yeah but you don't get called left wing nut jobs or some sort of derogatory name based on meat from a pig or even the lazy stereotypical far right label

I don't think i know one far right person
Still used as a derogatory term though, just more of the same division really.

I agree that this conference wasn't far right, some are free market evangelists and nothing can get in the way of that and some are just bullies and cowards, always punching down, their solution is always that the poorest and most disenfranchised are to blame, which does skirt with the far right but this lot don't have the balls to go any further.
 
Still used as a derogatory term though, just more of the same division really.

I agree that this conference wasn't far right, some are free market evangelists and nothing can get in the way of that and some are just bullies and cowards, always punching down, their solution is always that the poorest and most disenfranchised are to blame, which does skirt with the far right but this lot don't have the balls to go any further.
Can you show me what far right looks like in this modern world as I honestly have no idea, I just don't see any evidence of it

Some idiot posted the other day that this current government was one of the most far right in history, that's absolute horse sh!te, they are one of the weakest of all time
 
call me what you want, it ain't a problem. Give it and you have to take it.. My point is simply that there is a clear bias from the mods when it comes to the "left" and "right" and what is allowed.
Yeah left is allowed on this site, right isn't

Its that simple and quite pathetic that it happens
 
Yeah but you don't get called left wing nut jobs or some sort of derogatory name based on meat from a pig or even the lazy stereotypical far right label

I don't think i know one far right person
More to the point can you name a single person or politician on the left you hate?
Didn't like Corbyn but hate nope.
Starmer is a bit of a wet lettuce but nothing against the fella.

Mention Farage or any Tory and those on the left are frothing at the mouth with hatred.
 
More to the point can you name a single person or politician on the left you hate?
Didn't like Corbyn but hate nope.
Starmer is a bit of a wet lettuce but nothing against the fella.

Mention Farage or any Tory and those on the left are frothing at the mouth with hatred.
Yeah it always amazes me how aggressive and intolerant the left are, I don't see much compassion from that side of the political divide
 
call me what you want, it ain't a problem. Give it and you have to take it.. My point is simply that there is a clear bias from the mods when it comes to the "left" and "right" and what is allowed.
The first bit I agree with. The second bit, can't comment as I rarely see what has been censored before its gone. My gut feel is as long as it is not racist abuse or incitement to violence, surely it comes out as free speech. The excuse we have been told before is the site being concerned about legal action, I reaaly don't think we're that important !
 
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