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the Mayor of Brussels called upon the police to close down the NatCon conference whilst Farage was speaking. He said that the far-right are not welcome in Brussels.

The police attended and confirmed they were closing it down gradually. The organisers are looking to challenge the decision.
 
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the Mayor of Brussels called upon the police to close down the NatCon conference whilst Farage was speaking. He said that the far-right are not welcome in Brussels.

The police attended and co firmedthey were closi g it down grafually. The organisers are looking to challenge the decision.
Your good 1966, nearly got me😂👏
 
From the little I've seen it seems it's cancel culture on full display, with the excuse of far right used exactly as I described in past threads.


Ridiculous to defend this, can see how society is going where if your views aren't in line with what's deemed the acceptable views, then you'll risk being shut down.
 
From the little I've seen it seems it's cancel culture on full display, with the excuse of far right used exactly as I described in past threads.


Ridiculous to defend this, can see how society is going where if your views aren't in line with what's deemed the acceptable views, then you'll risk being shut down.
He looks a bit cross.

But it’s about time Farage and you got your priorities right.

It’s Super Tuesday. I’m not good at sums but even I can see the next couple of hours or so are quite important for The Mighty.

Feck Farage and Focus on the Important Stuff!!
 
He looks a bit cross.

But it’s about time Farage and you got your priorities right.

It’s Super Tuesday. I’m not good at sums but even I can see the next couple of hours or so are quite important for The Mighty.

Feck Farage and Focus on the Important Stuff!!
I think it's plays into his narrative and backs up what he's saying.

As for super Tuesday, we're not playing and can only scan the score from time to time, if you want to dedicate a whole night to that, upto you I guess. I didn't start the thread.
 
I think it's plays into his narrative and backs up what he's saying.

As for super Tuesday, we're not playing and can only scan the score from time to time, if you want to dedicate a whole night to that, upto you I guess. I didn't start the thread.
First paragraph. Yes. That’s why he’s so deliriously happy tonight.

Second paragraph. Which “score” are you “scanning”? As a matter of interest.
 
First paragraph. Yes. That’s why he’s so deliriously happy tonight.

Second paragraph. Which “score” are you “scanning”? As a matter of interest.
Well I don't think anyone would be happy, but one things for sure he'll be using now as an example and rightly so.

I meant scores.
 
Always the victim. Never to blame.
What would he be to blame for here, if it were someone on the left they'd have been a victim too, of cancel culture and it would have been equally as ridiculous and worrying.

We can't have people shutting down reasonable debate or opposing views they disagree with, it's a very bad path.
 
They're just making victims out of these wankers, Farage was straight in to martyr mode, banning these deluded cnuts always backfires.
Exactly.

By the way, Farage, Truss and co don't believe all that deep state nonsense but they do know there is a legion of gullible idiots who will believe it. In the USA you can multiply that number by whatever you want.
 
What would he be to blame for here, if it were someone on the left they'd have been a victim too, of cancel culture and it would have been equally as ridiculous and worrying.

We can't have people shutting down reasonable debate or opposing views they disagree with, it's a very bad path.
The hard right always do it, they've had all the power for a decade and a half in this country yet apparently leftist elites are pulling all the strings and if only these nasty wokey woke would leave them alone everything would be a glorious new upland.

Truss and Braverman have made a career out of paranoid conspiracies, they're geniuses really and the commie leftist traitors are the ones to blame. Look it's them! Over there, bloody wokey wokeists trying to cancel us! I know you can't see them but they we're here honest! Get them!

Meanwhile....

 
The hard right always do it, they've had all the power for a decade and a half in this country yet apparently leftist elites are pulling all the strings and if only these nasty wokey woke would leave them alone everything would be a glorious new upland.

Truss and Braverman have made a career out of paranoid conspiracies, they're geniuses really and the commie leftist traitors are the ones to blame. Look it's them! Over there, bloody wokey wokeists trying to cancel us! I know you can't see them but they we're here honest! Get them!

Meanwhile....


Surprising after all the hard work on levelling up
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What would he be to blame for here, if it were someone on the left they'd have been a victim too, of cancel culture and it would have been equally as ridiculous and worrying.

We can't have people shutting down reasonable debate or opposing views they disagree with, it's a very bad path.
Haven’t the Free Speech brigade been trying to ban peace marches in London?

That vaguely rings a bell.


 
Haven’t the Free Speech brigade been trying to ban peace marches in London?

That vaguely rings a bell.


It's almost as if he has no consistency of argument and is a populist prick who plays to his crowd.
 
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Braverman as well.

It’s almost as if she’s never called for powers to stop peaceful protests.

Hypocrisy at its finest.

That's different, the Palestine march has focus and a simple message to stop murdering innocent people so needs to stop, whereas the RWNJ wankathon is a vague populist soundbite jamboree of dangerous hate fuelled confusion and bullying attempts to paint society's weakest ,poorest and downtrodden as the enemy, so that's fine.
 
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Hypocrisy at its finest……Politics at its finest
Once you nail your colours to the political mast you inevitably find yourself at the opposite ends of the same circle…🤷🏻‍♂️
 
Hypocrisy at its finest……Politics at its finest
Once you nail your colours to the political mast you inevitably find yourself at the opposite ends of the same circle…🤷🏻‍♂️
The right punching down and the left punching up, always someone to blame, no one has any solutions.
 
the Mayor of Brussels called upon the police to close down the NatCon conference whilst Farage was speaking. He said that the far-right are not welcome in Brussels.

The police attended and confirmed they were closing it down gradually. The organisers are looking to challenge the decision.
Its not good to try and suppress free speech, that's how Nazi Germany started
 
It was interesting to see the delegates coming out with their skin head hair cuts, bover boots, jeans and TShirts all visible.

Oh wait a minute.

Just the sort of free advertising any form of political party would be looking for, and free at that.

To the Mayor of Brussels i would say : 'What a Mistake a to make a.'
 
Haven’t the Free Speech brigade been trying to ban peace marches in London?

That vaguely rings a bell.


The difference is probably that a prescribed terrorist group is being supported and chants that are seen to call for the the elimination of Israel happen...

Could that be a slight difference maybe?
 
Going? We're already there mate, trans being the most obvious example, but I can think of others.
Well yeah, but it'll only get more widespread.

Look those silly hate crime laws in Scotland, imagine that everywhere, as technology advances, maybe retrospective punishments, etc

Look how much it's changed in 20 years and imagine another 20...
 
The difference is probably that a prescribed terrorist group is being supported and chants that are seen to call for the the elimination of Israel happen...

Could that be a slight difference maybe?
Another attempt to argue that calls for a ceasefire and the end to the slaughter of innocent children are the same as supporting Hamas. They aren’t.

“Chants that are seen as”. So you decide what a chant means and then you get to proscribe it. Yeah that’s definitely in line with your free speech stance.

The fact of the matter is that the marches (involving tens of thousands of people) are peaceful protests calling for peace. So they have to be condemned as “hate marches”. Just because Braverman claims something as a fact doesn’t make it a fact.
 
Its not good to try and suppress free speech, that's how Nazi Germany started
At the risk of being reductive I would argue that Nazi Germany started as part of the fallout from WW1, when a massive hole in Government led to the rise of unstable revolutionary factions in an environment where small, extremist factions could also take form. Hitler's National Socialist movement was one of these small factions. Because the revolution of 1918-19 fizzled out, uncompleted, the Weimar regime lost the support of the centre-left democrats who had been at the core of that revolution and the space was filled by right and left wing extremists who made gains in the 1920 election. From that point on, in a country that suffered massively in the great depression, the Republic was doomed. That is the environment in which the germ of Nazism grew. In 21st Century Belgium there is a stable and liberal-democratic Government and a peaceful environment in which the authorities are rightly suppressing that far-right seed. We don't want it to flourish in today's Europe and removing its opportunity to make its case is the right thing to do.
 
Another attempt to argue that calls for a ceasefire and the end to the slaughter of innocent children are the same as supporting Hamas. They aren’t.

“Chants that are seen as”. So you decide what a chant means and then you get to proscribe it. Yeah that’s definitely in line with your free speech stance.

The fact of the matter is that the marches (involving tens of thousands of people) are peaceful protests calling for peace. So they have to be condemned as “hate marches”. Just because Braverman claims something as a fact doesn’t make it a fact.
I see you're desperate to shoehorn in a completely different argument into the thread, rather than discuss the actual topic.

I don't decide who is a prescribed terrorist group or what from the river to the sea means and what Jewish people see it to mean. There were clearly some nasty elements to the marches and you'd imagine a different way round would be shut down if they crossed a line. Although many on them are of course peaceful. The marches aren't straightforward but do have elements that cross the line.

This thread is about a perfectly legal political conference, it's a different situation, as you well know.
 
I see you're desperate to shoehorn in a completely different argument into the thread, rather than discuss the actual topic.

I don't decide who is a prescribed terrorist group or what from the river to the sea means and what Jewish people see it to mean. There were clearly some nasty elements to the marches and you'd imagine a different way round would be shut down if they crossed a line. Although many on them are of course peaceful. The marches aren't straightforward but do have elements that cross the line.

This thread is about a perfectly legal political conference, it's a different situation, as you well know.
The thread is about free speech. And hypocrisy.
 
The thread is about free speech. And hypocrisy.
The thread, incase you can't read, is called 'good man' with one of our LW posters praising a political conference being shut down.

I have highlighted the difference between your examples which I've admitted isn't completely clear cut, whereas this is.

Everyone of sane mind have come out and said its wrong and the mayor was wrong and hence its been overturned.

 
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So in 2020, even Boris disciplined one of his MPs for attending this conference.

Bravernman complains about her freedom of speech, yet whilst Home Secretary, took action leading to the possible imprisonment of anyone who silently holds up a placard outside any court, telling juries that it is their right under ancient but current law, to deliver a verdict according to their conscience. Further, stop oil protestors were not allowed to speak in their own defense in court, explaining their actions, at risk of being jailed for contempt of court.

Hypocrisy of the highest order
 
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The thread, incase you can't read, is called 'good man' with one of our LW posters praising a political conference being shut down.

I have highlighted the difference between your examples which I've admitted isn't completely clear cut, whereas this is.

Everyone of sane mind have come out and said its wrong and the mayor was wrong and hence its been overturned.

I just thought it was ironic that, on a thread about free speech, you were trying to dictate what could, and could not, been talked about.
 
The thread, incase you can't read, is called 'good man' with one of our LW posters praising a political conference being shut down.

I have highlighted the difference between your examples which I've admitted isn't completely clear cut, whereas this is.

Everyone of sane mind have come out and said its wrong and the mayor was wrong and hence its been overturned.

That article sums it all up not a few moaning lefties on here.
 
I just thought it was ironic that, on a thread about free speech, you were trying to dictate what could, and could not, been talked about.
Except I haven't done that, only mentioned what this thread is about and responded to your random linking of it to protests and said its a completely different type of issue.
 
Except I haven't done that, only mentioned what this thread is about and responded to your random linking of it to protests and said it’s a completely different type of issue.
😂 It’s not random at all! It’s exactly the same issue! Free speech. Especially when the politicians involved are the same people who have tried to take free speech away from people they disagree with.

Essentially you’re arguing that the free speech of some hard right politicians is far more important than the free speech of tens/hundreds of thousands of people calling for a ceasefire.

They and you should be consistent.
 
😂 It’s not random at all! It’s exactly the same issue! Free speech. Especially when the politicians involved are the same people who have tried to take free speech away from people they disagree with.

Essentially you’re arguing that the free speech of some hard right politicians is far more important than the free speech of tens/hundreds of thousands of people calling for a ceasefire.

They and you should be consistent.
No.

You initially stated 'always the victim, never to blame'... and yet it seems he, NF, and the conference were victims of a mayor overstepping his power and trying to shut down debate he didn't like.

I've already stated the big difference between marches and said they were more complex, but also contained things within them that would see other marches shut down and some disgraceful antisemitic behaviour.

But seems you're in an argumentative mood and having, once again, been proven wrong on something, you've now tried argue something else.

The lefties who were happy it was shut down now look utterly ridiculous on this thread.
 
Unless there are banned organisations, it’s worrying that events like this can be cancelled, whether that’s right or left wing. Would this mayor have done the same if it was Corbyn and Momentum?
Where was the outrage from Farage etc when there were calls for bans of protest marches in London? Cancel culture my arse.

The architect of Brexit books Brussels for a conference of right wing zealots. Deliberately provocative and needless. Hold it in Hungary where his brand of nationalism plays well.

National Conservative conference... Nat C. Quite.
 
He looks a bit cross.

But it’s about time Farage and you got your priorities right.

It’s Super Tuesday. I’m not good at sums but even I can see the next couple of hours or so are quite important for The Mighty.

Feck Farage and Focus on the Important Stuff!!
Who are you and what have you done with Mex?
 
Where was the outrage from Farage etc when there were calls for bans of protest marches in London? Cancel culture my arse.

The architect of Brexit books Brussels for a conference of right wing zealots. Deliberately provocative and needless. Hold it in Hungary where his brand of nationalism plays well.

National Conservative conference... Nat C. Quite.
Are you that thick not to realise that 500,000 terrorist supporters marching in our capital is a bit more dangerous than a conference of a few middle aged politicians

There is no comparison to be made
 
Are you that thick not to realise that 500,000 terrorist supporters marching in our capital is a bit more dangerous than a conference of a few middle aged politicians
I don't think half a million people marching and asking for a ceasefire / end to killing is support for terrorism. Maybe it is in your world Phil.

I wouldn't mind, but the people causing most of the mayhem in the capital on the day in question were your mates in the Football Lads Alliance.
 
I don't think half a million people marching and asking for a ceasefire / end to killing is support for terrorism. Maybe it is in your world Phil.

I wouldn't mind, but the people causing most of the mayhem in the capital on the day in question were your mates in the Football Lads Alliance.
I think you watch too much BBC old boy
 
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The thread, incase you can't read, is called 'good man' with one of our LW posters praising a political conference being shut down.

I have highlighted the difference between your examples which I've admitted isn't completely clear cut, whereas this is.

Everyone of sane mind have come out and said its wrong and the mayor was wrong and hence its been overturned.

Would you shut down a Nazi conference? No? Is that the free speech you want? I would suggest you look to history. Every one of our forefathers who fought in WW2 - Tory or Labour voter - would have it shut down. I know that my grandfather - Tory voter - who was in Germany at the end of the War, would have shot any German who attempted to stand on a far-right platform.
 
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