It's really despicable, especially when they are only doing this to make sums add up in a spreadsheet to cover their arses after what they've pulled. Reviewing pensions with life expectancy is fine but it's really stupid to do it now considering life expectancy has plateaued and we've just had a once in a hundred years pandemic
I think Thatcher made a comment along the lines of “you can’t make a soufflé rise twice”.
Labour made the last age increases. It seems to have opened the door to acceptable future rises.
You’ve probably just killed this have another moan thread with that post..Labour made the last age increases. It seems to have opened the door to acceptable future rises.
I went from 60 to 67 last time
That was my intentionYou’ve probably just killed this have another moan thread with that post..
Decisions made by people who work in offices that seem to have little concept of physical work. I'd love to make some of these MPs from any party do my job for a year and then ask them if they'd still fancy it when they are approaching 70!Labour made the last age increases. It seems to have opened the door to acceptable future rises.
I went from 60 to 67 last time
It doesn't mean it was right. Labour weren't vaccinated against making bad decisions. Another increase in the State pension age would be a bad decision.Labour made the last age increases. It seems to have opened the door to acceptable future rises.
I went from 60 to 67 last time
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It doesnt. But it does show that when they want to be they are largely all as good or as bad as each other.
She's well out of her depth.Her speech at the Tory party conference interrupted by 2 Greenpeace demonstrators displaying a banner it got pulled off them by one of the delegates but another one soon came out.
Eventually escorted out b
Indeed she was the only thing she said with some conviction was the continued support on Ukraine.
It was the Tories in 1995 that increased the age for women from 60 to 65 to match men because they retired 5 years earlier, it just didn't get taken into effect for most people for a long time because of the cut off dates, although presumably Labour could have reversed it if they wanted to and didnt. Considering women live longer than men it was pretty unfair for them to retire 5 years earlier. The 60/65 ages had been in place since 1940 when the average life expectancy was 20 years below what it is now so it does make sense to increase it, although it started from too high a place in the first place (half the people would have died before ever getting it). Pensions cost 100bn a year so putting it back to 60 would be enormously costly. Plus the knock on effect of 8 years worth of workers not working and paying taxes. I don't think 60 is at all realistic anymore. But it shouldn't move up more to 68 either as life expectancy is plateauingLabour made the last age increases. It seems to have opened the door to acceptable future rises.
I went from 60 to 67 last time
state pension age had been 60 for women, and 65 for men. The Act changed this so that the women's pension age would be made equal with men, but that the transition should only be phased in from 2010 to 2020.[9] In 2006, a cross party Parliamentary report again recommended equalisation of ages on the basis of equal treatment of both sexes. It also recommended a rise in the state pension age for both men and women to 68 between 2024 and 2046. The rationale for the age rise was that people would be living longer in the future.[10] This was put into effect by the Pensions Act 2007.
I’m 76 in a few weeks time and a Blackpuddlian living in Cambridge so a 2 years bonus so far!
Thatcher to a T - but without the intelligence. 
Liz Truss does look to have aged by 5 years in the last week!! 
She's well out of her depth UK state pension is one of the lowest in Europe. Been on it for nearly a year and so glad I have an occupational pension as well.
Labour +33There's definitely an increasing sign of desperation in the anti-Truss rhetoric on this site. She had a stunning work career of 4 years before becoming a professional politician.
What is more interesting is that Liz seems to be getting a handle on the job, is showing both flexibility and leadership, appears to be genuinely honest and is making the prosaic leader of the opposition look even more uninspiring than before.
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She would be out of her depth in an evaporating puddle
Not sure it's that high tbh.
There's definitely an increasing sign of desperation in the anti-Truss rhetoric on this site. She had a stunning work career of 4 years before becoming a professional politician.
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25% of 2019 Tory voters now say they will vote LabourIt's not just on this site - that well known Marxist Piers Morgan in that leftist rag favoured by Momentum, the Sun, has criticised Liz as well. He is clearly a desperate man.
Liz Truss' dull speech betrayed a floundering leader totally out of her depth
UNTIL Liz Truss opened her mouth for her party conference leader address yesterday, I was convinced I’d never hear a more boring Tory Prime Minister orator than Theresa May. (When I told Donald&nbs…
If it's true, Labour will get back into power. Seems to be the same every five years but the Tories still end up in government. Why is it that Labour can't seem to convince voters when it comes to putting an X in the box?
Do not sit on the fence Lala ,who would you prefer ,red or blue, or another .
It is absolutely not the same. Look at the rolling polling averages here going back to 2014. The largest lead for Labour was 7pts, 39-32 in Feb 2014. Between the 2015 and 2017 elections Labour never held a lead. Between 2017-19 Labour had moments of a very slim 2-3pt lead when Reform was splitting the vote, but once Boris took over Labour never held a lead until the 2019 election.
just spent some time in Portugal with an old friend of mine and her relatively new American husband, he's a retired economist who advised the fed, world bank and a host of other institutions, knowing I was from Blackpool he had been looking at the town and he was absolutely gobsmacked when he found out that the life expectancy between Blackpool and Chelsea was 12 years, he couldn't work out how it was possible in a relatively small state. I spent a couple of hours explaining the historic socio economic dynamics of the UK.
The 74 average gets extended if you move away when you're 73
At the moment the swingometer is slightly towards red. But I will see where we stand on Election Day, whenever that may be.
It will settle down or become more reinforced. If it settles down it will be a battle for the Tories. If it becomes reinforced, they're stuffed.
