Hull City v Blackpool Official Matchday Thread 16.01.21

Hazi said:
Howe and Thorniley not Critchleys
Men, Sarkic hasn’t worked out it happens, Fojticek brought in on a relative apprentice contract could still be a star of the future. Woodburn is a good player for this level not happened for whatever reason could still do. Kemp has left the building freeing up a space was worth a look at, Mitchell still has a future ahead of him.
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I didn't say Howe and Thorniley were Critchley's.
Just to add that several of Pool's best performers this season aren't Critchley's!
 
rememberlesshannon said:
Woodburn 4 ? Came on, clean through for the sending off and crossed for the goal !!
Postives, decent first half, centre backs good again, even with injuries with players like , Gabriel, Garbutt and Virtue can make a difference of the bench, we got a point away to 2nd in the league.
Negatives, fans always have to have a scapegoat and it looks like it's KaiKai's turn. He isn't playing well and has struggled for a while, but he has the ability to do something others can't.
I'd have settled for a point and in the end we got one. Underserved, but of you think we're going to Hull and dominating the ball and game, you're in cloud cuckoo land.
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Kaikai is doing something different...being lazy and disinterested. Overrated.
 
Mark_GT said:
You shouldn't be having to sub both your full backs. They should be secure positions in a settled side. I don't think Critch quite trusts any of them enough. We need to sort these positions out as it's costing us.
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I don’t ever recall seeing both backs being subbed, but until recently you had 3 subs. In hindsight I think garbutt & virtue should have started instead of Kaikai & Lubala.
 
rememberlesshannon said:
Woodburn 4 ? Came on, clean through for the sending off and crossed for the goal !!
Postives, decent first half, centre backs good again, even with injuries with players like , Gabriel, Garbutt and Virtue can make a difference of the bench, we got a point away to 2nd in the league.
Negatives, fans always have to have a scapegoat and it looks like it's KaiKai's turn. He isn't playing well and has struggled for a while, but he has the ability to do something others can't.
I'd have settled for a point and in the end we got one. Underserved, but of you think we're going to Hull and dominating the ball and game, you're in cloud cuckoo land.
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And the previous three identikit away performances? Frustrating?
 
kuriousoranj said:
On paper a 1-1 draw at Hull looks good but I think it only papers over the cracks. The last four aways performances have just about finished off our play off hopes. The constant recycling of the ball backwards even from half decent midfield positions.

No wonder we don't score goals. Nobody running down the channels - If you're playing two up top then it's crucial. Both Madine and Yates always come short so the best we can expect is a free kick, but even that route to goal seems to have died recently due to the pass being to high or too low or not even reaching them. Occasionally Madine controls and lays off then the process starts again. It's like watching a slow ship creeping out of the harbour. Hamilton (when fit) has to play down the middle, we'd be far more dynamic.

I don't know about Kaikai, will he come good again?..who knows?? He looks a beaten man right now.
Equally I find Matty Virtue so frustrating. He comes on and just about every commentator 'on cue' "Matty is usually the man to get you a critical goal" Oh really?? Matty came on and proceeded to give gave the ball away three times under no pressure. Then fouled an opponent twice due his lack of pace. Whats really frustrating about that is.. we were a man up with the clock ticking!!

Corners - mostly still not clearing the first man!

It's not all bad, but the truth is only 5/6 players (we own) are anything like a top 8 team. At least the bulk are still young.

Maxwell 6 Turton 6 Ekpiteta 6 Ballard 6 Husband 5 Ward 6 Dougall 6 Lubala 5 Madine 5 Yates 6 Kaikai 4

Virtue 4
Woodburn 4
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Woodburn 4!!!?

He played well when he came on. I've been critical of him in the main but he did well today, buzzed about, showed intent and set up several moments. Sullay wasn't that bad today either despite the consensus. How you've marked Bez higher than him I honestly don't get.
 
rememberlesshannon said:
Woodburn 4 ? Came on, clean through for the sending off and crossed for the goal !!
Postives, decent first half, centre backs good again, even with injuries with players like , Gabriel, Garbutt and Virtue can make a difference of the bench, we got a point away to 2nd in the league.
Negatives, fans always have to have a scapegoat and it looks like it's KaiKai's turn. He isn't playing well and has struggled for a while, but he has the ability to do something others can't.
I'd have settled for a point and in the end we got one. Underserved, but of you think we're going to Hull and dominating the ball and game, you're in cloud cuckoo land.
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Spot on.
 
td53 said:
Woodburn 4!!!?

He played well when he came on. I've been critical of him in the main but he did well today, buzzed about, showed intent and set up several moments. Sullay wasn't that bad today either despite the consensus. How you've marked Bez higher than him I honestly don't get.
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That still doesn't make up for his lack of form and impact during the rest of his loan period!
 
Sooty59 said:
I don’t ever recall seeing both backs being subbed, but until recently you had 3 subs. In hindsight I think garbutt & virtue should have started instead of Kaikai & Lubala.
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Turton and Husband started because they are our best defensive full backs, away to a top team.

Turton had a storming first half. Both were steady across 80 minutes they played.

Some of you think a winger will never beat a full back, and if they do, the full back is poor. It’s frightening!

The full backs were rightly changed, because they went down to 10 and dropped behind the ball. NC made a good tactical change, bringing on more attacking full backs. He also used all 5 to give us fresh legs and an edge in the final 10.

Our best league performance for a few games, and people think a point away at the 2nd placed team (and 4 from 6 against them) is poor. Even more frightening!

Here’s the truth - had we not struggled in the first 8 games we’d comfortably be top 6, pushing top 2. We are a good team and we’ll get even better.
 
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TimperleyTangerine said:
Turton and Husband started because they are our best defensive full backs, away to a top team.

Turton had a storming first half. Both were steady across 80 minutes they played.

Some of you think a winger will never beat a full back, and if they do, the full back is poor. It’s frightening!

The full backs were rightly changed, because they went down to 10 and dropped behind the ball. NC made a good tactical change, bringing on more attacking full backs. BUT also he used all 5 to give us fresh legs and an edge in the final 10.

Our best league performance for a few games, and people think a point away at the 2nd placed team (and 4 from 6 against them) is poor. Even more frightening!

Here’s the truth - had we not struggled in the first 8 games we’d comfortably be top 6, pushing top 2. We are a good team and we’ll get even better.
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It's the last 4 away games we need to look at. Apart from maybe Bristol Rovers I thought we looked second best in all of them but admittedly not by far. The lack of goals is down to the system. We seem to make a meal of getting the ball forward into more dangerous areas. Our lack of goals is purely down to opening teams up.. which we just don't do.

The law of averages means at some point it will fall Kindly in the box and we'll score, generally that how we get our goals.
 
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TimperleyTangerine said:
Turton and Husband started because they are our best defensive full backs, away to a top team.

Turton had a storming first half. Both were steady across 80 minutes they played.

Some of you think a winger will never beat a full back, and if they do, the full back is poor. It’s frightening!

The full backs were rightly changed, because they went down to 10 and dropped behind the ball. NC made a good tactical change, bringing on more attacking full backs. BUT also he used all 5 to give us fresh legs and an edge in the final 10.

Our best league performance for a few games, and people think a point away at the 2nd placed team (and 4 from 6 against them) is poor. Even more frightening!

Here’s the truth - had we not struggled in the first 8 games we’d comfortably be top 6, pushing top 2. We are a good team and we’ll get even better.
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We're a lower mid table team that has problems scoring enough goals to win games. 8 points off play offs...7 points off relegation says it all.
 
We have the squad to be challenging towards the top, but it’s not clicking at the moment. We’ve seen us do a lot more with massively inferior groups of players before. This is why it’s so frustrating to watch.
 
Goforgoal said:
Up until now although I haven’t defended Critchley, I haven’t called for his head either. This is absolute 💩 we have no idea, a manager who by his own admission doesn’t know our league position, or how many points we have got and even worse doesn’t see anything wrong in that. We will not get promotion this season or next or any other under this manager. As a ST holder I will watch home games for free, but I will never again pay money to watch this crap.
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Ooooooh
 
Seaside Aggro said:
We have the squad to be challenging towards the top, but it’s not clicking at the moment. We’ve seen us do a lot more with massively inferior groups of players before. This is why it’s so frustrating to watch.
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It's a squad based on quantity rather than quality and I can't see many players who have improved under Critchley.
 
TangerinePeel said:
Again, I believe you are in the minority. I'm sure you're almost completely incorrect about Preston giving a toss about our results unless they're in our division, did the Nobbers remain silent when we lost to United on the last day of the Premier League season because we weren't in their division and it had no direct implication to them as a football club?

Preston are our main rivals, every loss they concede takes them another step further away from getting promoted. You can find a thread about Preston losing (if it happens) every Saturday, you can have a gander right now and find a thread about Preston losing and a thread about Bolton dropping points. Football fans revel in the misfortunes of their rivals, if you claim to have absolutely no interest in them unless we're in the same division then that is your opinion but I doubt its shared by most fans.
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Its shared by me 1966
 
Seaside Aggro said:
We have the squad to be challenging towards the top, but it’s not clicking at the moment. We’ve seen us do a lot more with massively inferior groups of players before. This is why it’s so frustrating to watch.
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I agree but we play all the football in our own half and it looks great, defenders building from the back. If we do manage to get the ball into our front two we generally loose the ball. Then we start again, and again. Wasn't our early season form down to exactly this?

Pace down the middle is what we need just to give the midfield another option.
 
td53 said:
Woodburn 4!!!?

He played well when he came on. I've been critical of him in the main but he did well today, buzzed about, showed intent and set up several moments. Sullay wasn't that bad today either despite the consensus. How you've marked Bez higher than him I honestly don't get.
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Bez got involved in the first 30mins. Problem is, he rushes everything, it's all 100mph even a 5 yard pass.
Sully didn't, he hardly touched the ball,
 
kuriousoranj said:
Bez got involved in the first 30mins. Problem is, he rushes everything, it's all 100mph even a 5 yard pass.
Sully didn't, he hardly touched the ball,
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Who crossed for Madine at the near post early on?, who drove one inches wide on the half volley from 22 yards? Who took the free kick that Madine nodded back that Marvin or Turton should have buried, Who was stood in acres of space with his arms out whilst Bez ran into the three players in the middle instead of glancing at his options? Who did a ** awesome little turn on the touchline and almost sent the entire pitch with it only for it to roll an inch out of play. Who would the entire internet have been bumming had it came off?

Not Bez is who. I like our Bez, but he had no impact on that game at all. To say Sullay had less is literally not true.
 
td53 said:
Who crossed for Madine at the near post early on?, who drove one inches wide on the half volley from 22 yards? Who took the free kick that Madine nodded back that Marvin or Turton should have buried, Who was stood in acres of space with his arms out whilst Bez ran into the three players in the middle instead of glancing at his options? Who did a ** awesome little turn on the touchline and almost sent the entire pitch with it only for it to roll an inch out of play. Who would the entire internet have been bumming had it came off?

Not Bez is who. I like our Bez, but he had no impact on that game at all. To say Sullay had less is literally not true.
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Yeh. But madine was just class
 
td53 said:
Who crossed for Madine at the near post early on?, who drove one inches wide on the half volley from 22 yards? Who took the free kick that Madine nodded back that Marvin or Turton should have buried, Who was stood in acres of space with his arms out whilst Bez ran into the three players in the middle instead of glancing at his options? Who did a ** awesome little turn on the touchline and almost sent the entire pitch with it only for it to roll an inch out of play. Who would the entire internet have been bumming had it came off?

Not Bez is who. I like our Bez, but he had no impact on that game at all. To say Sullay had less is literally not true.
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Neither of them are good enough for any club / team with promotion aspirations. Kaikai is generally idle and is overrated, and Lubala just doesn't have the attributes to succeed at this level.
 
62years&counting said:
Neither of them are good enough for any club / team with promotion aspirations. Kaikai is generally idle and is overrated, and Lubala just doesn't have the attributes to succeed at this level.
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No, Sullay ain't. You are basically wrong. So lets just leave that there cos there ain't any point in discussing it. A cos your wrong and B cos I'm right.

I say it as I see it etc.
 
TimperleyTangerine said:
Turton and Husband started because they are our best defensive full backs, away to a top team.

Turton had a storming first half. Both were steady across 80 minutes they played.

Some of you think a winger will never beat a full back, and if they do, the full back is poor. It’s frightening!

The full backs were rightly changed, because they went down to 10 and dropped behind the ball. NC made a good tactical change, bringing on more attacking full backs. BUT also he used all 5 to give us fresh legs and an edge in the final 10.

Our best league performance for a few games, and people think a point away at the 2nd placed team (and 4 from 6 against them) is poor. Even more frightening!

Here’s the truth - had we not struggled in the first 8 games we’d comfortably be top 6, pushing top 2. We are a good team and we’ll get even better.
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I’m not sure that’s the case as our league form now is not good
 
Was the Yates goal our only shot on target? I really didn’t think we were that bad Bear in mind hull are one of the big boys team in this league we were very comparative and if only Bez lub and sul kaik had put a shift in it would have without doubt been a double. I do feel very disappointed with the result today but we as a club are a lot more secure than most - you really could have not said that before march 20 and the cancelling of the Sunderland game 🧡 Proud to be a seasider
 
Very good result today. Possibly the best result of the season. Beating Peterborough when top was good but they weren't playing well at the time whereas Hull were on their game and bossed the match for large periods. To stay in contention while having a goal threat throughout was admirable. From a Hull perspective, the slip was unlucky but we took full advantage of the situation and dominated the last period of the game so there was only going to be one winner. The subs around that time were excellent.

Woodburn had his best game and can maybe fit into that left position as Kaikai just isn't delivering. Lubala looked ok going forward but was lacking defensively though he's only just started his contract here so will have plenty of time to improve. Dougall had a difficult job against one of the best players in the division but improved as the game wore on and Ward played well throughout.

Overall a pretty good performance against a team who look as likely for automatic as any I've seen this season.

Just reading through the comments on this thread... it's laughable really... it's clear so many people simply have no understanding of the basics of football. Obsessing about formations, a complete lack of patience of building play from the back, cries of 'get rid of x/y/z' as if you can just swipe left to lose someone and swipe right to bring someone else in.

It was a good day today. Learn to appreciate that when it happens because there are plenty of days when it doesn't.
 
Kip said:
Very good result today. Possibly the best result of the season. Beating Peterborough when top was good but they weren't playing well at the time whereas Hull were on their game and bossed the match for large periods. To stay in contention while having a goal threat throughout was admirable. From a Hull perspective, the slip was unlucky but we took full advantage of the situation and dominated the last period of the game so there was only going to be one winner. The subs around that time were excellent.

Woodburn had his best game and can maybe fit into that left position as Kaikai just isn't delivering. Lubala looked ok going forward but was lacking defensively though he's only just started his contract here so will have plenty of time to improve. Dougall had a difficult job against one of the best players in the division but improved as the game wore on and Ward played well throughout.

Overall a pretty good performance against a team who look as likely for automatic as any I've seen this season.

Just reading through the comments on this thread... it's laughable really... it's clear so many people simply have no understanding of the basics of football. Obsessing about formations, a complete lack of patience of building play from the back, cries of 'get rid of x/y/z' as if you can just swipe left to lose someone and swipe right to bring someone else in.

It was a good day today. Learn to appreciate that when it happens because there are plenty of days when it doesn't.
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Great post Kip
 
We need to get our 50 points as soon as possible to guarentee our League 1 status next season and then try to blood some of the younger players this squad isn t ready for promotion just yet.
 
Looking at yesterdays highlights and seeing last night the way Premiership players throw themselves to block so many shots, for their goal, two of our players were between the goalscorer and the goal. Am I being too overcritical to say that its best not to turn away but watch the ball to try to block it. It an even game it could gain us a very valuable two more points as in a very average division aiming for the playoffs must be worth a go.
 
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