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TrickyTangerine

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How on earth have we got him. He is up there with one of the best talents I’ve ever seen in tangerine. How on earth does the kid not start. Time and time again he affects the game. No idea why Critch doesnt want him on the pitch as long as he possibly can. Cant be his attitude because every time he plays he works his socks off, cant be his performances because everytime he steps foot on the pitch he looks levels above anyone from either side. Special player.
 
What i dont understand is how he ended up at Brest.

He was on everyones radar whilst at Celtic. Why was he not snapped up. I dont get it.

Maybe hes on a big contract.
 
Purely down to his fitness. He was undercooked when arrived and Critch has slowly let him loose. Doesn’t look yet like he can keep up the intensity for a full game.

I also think not having a second water carrier in either Norburn or Virtue for the past 4 or 5 games has hindered him. He’s now got to be a shoe in to start games and hopefully sooner or later he can perform for 70 mins +

He’s a talent for sure and with Lavery and Rhodes both being players who like to hang on the shoulder of the centre backs and make their runs in behind, his little neat passes are just going to create more and more chances for them. Stretch their defence with two wide men too, hugging the line, and gaps appear.

Just how to cover him when we lose the ball is Critch’s conundrum
 
Agree with Chunky, Critch has allowed Dembele to develop over time he's been with us
It looks like (at this moment) he's got 45 minutes in him....but fades, and maybe that's why Critch hasn't started him for a full 90mins....He cant do it?

Lovely player, nice talent.....but needs building up to a full game.
Like a team, Dembele is gaining and developing.....I noticed his value on one of the football sites has suddenly gone up from £0 to £500k
With 6 months left on his 'loan'....maybe it would be better to keep him quiet.....buy him....and then unleash the player we all can see..as we own him
 
We could do with him having one or two poor games, and then a slight injury, so the rave reviews will end and we can then sign him quietly!
 
At Bromley he was unplayable during the first half. Was he on the pitch in the 2nd half ? The question for NC is whether to start him, then withdraw him when he fades, or does he put him on at half time ?
 
DerbySeasider said:
Only downside as far as I can see is that he is very lightweight and gets knocked off the ball very easily.
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Lightweight yes, but it takes a fair bit to get the ball off him all the same. Certainly without giving a foul away.

Please Neil, just start him and give him a free role with minimal defensive involvement. I know there can't be zero, and he doesn't not get involved now anyway, so just put him behind Rhodes and Lavery/Kouassi/Joseph and let him wreak havoc. Teams will be scared to death of him, and very soon he'll be the one getting the double teaming that's currently on CJ every time he gets it.
 
CGP1 said:
Lightweight yes, but it takes a fair bit to get the ball off him all the same. Certainly without giving a foul away.

Please Neil, just start him and give him a free role with minimal defensive involvement. I know there can't be zero, and he doesn't not get involved now anyway, so just put him behind Rhodes and Lavery/Kouassi/Joseph and let him wreak havoc. Teams will be scared to death of him, and very soon he'll be the one getting the double teaming that's currently on CJ every time he gets it.
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Against Fleetwood and Bromley, he was surrounded by two players, on the floor and still got back up and moved away with the ball.
 
He looked super great against non league opposition and I think he is a top player for our division , but I think some of these posts are getting carried away . Although he is probably our best player I noticed he does get knocked off the ball by some of the league players and they will not let him pass as easy as Bromley did .It may be right to bring him on when the opposition are tiring .I would certainly play him in every game as long as he is fit though.
 
It's an age-old conundrum. You've got game-changing players but they can't last the full 90. Do you start with them, try to build a lead, then take them off, or do you start more cautiously, try to keep things tight, then bring them on with half an hour to go and let them run riot?
We've seen both. The biggest issue is how we get a consistent 90 positive, front-foot minutes whilst allowing for players' lack of fitness/stamina.
 
The last player I saw in League 1 as good as him was Wes Hoolahan.
Critchley needs to tweak the system to start Dembele as a genuine number 10 with Norburn and Dougall behind him. If there is a fitness issue take him off after 60 or 70 and replace with Carey in the same role.
Maybe can't be as brave with the wingbacks so Dale is unlikely to start but any pair from Hamilton, Lyons, Gabriel or Thompson still offers a lot going forward.
He could be the key to us possibly going up so start him, who knows if we go up we might be able to sign him.
We are lucky to have him Championship clubs have definitely missed one with Dembele.
 
Matesrates said:
I doubt there’s a chance in hell we could sign him, but wouldn’t it be fantastic.
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Hmm, we know nothing of his situation at Brest. The fact that he’s here means there is a reason Brest might not want/need him. The lad himself is not complaining that he’s here. Why wouldn’t our powers that be, prompted by Critch, calculate his cost?
Personally, I see him as a “wanna see this guy”. Soon regain the initial outlay with 1,000 extras in the ground/match.
 
Athers said:
One of the best players in the league and Oakley-Boothe and Carey get picked ahead of him. Beggars belief
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That doesn't(up to now) cut it both half's of the game.

Do you start him when the game is tighter and hook him second half or bring him on half time so not to waste on of your 3 allowed substitutions when players are tiring.
Example average against Derby starts brilliant against Cods(half time).
Until he can do the full 90 it's a bit of a dilemma.
 
poolseasider said:
That doesn't(up to now) cut it both half's of the game.

Do you start him when the game is tighter and hook him second half or bring him on half time so not to waste on of your 3 allowed substitutions when players are tiring.
Example average against Derby starts brilliant against Cods(half time).
Until he can do the full 90 it's a bit of a dilemma.
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He was average against Derby, although he did have some good moments, because he was playing just off Rhodes. Play him behind a front 2 and in front of Dougall and Norburn and just let him cause havoc. When he tires replace him with Carey and tell him to do the same, alternatively start with Carey and then bring on Dembele. Critchley just needs to be a little bit braver and maybe reign in the wingbacks slightly.
 
poolseasider said:
That doesn't(up to now) cut it both half's of the game.

Do you start him when the game is tighter and hook him second half or bring him on half time so not to waste on of your 3 allowed substitutions when players are tiring.
Example average against Derby starts brilliant against Cods(half time).
Until he can do the full 90 it's a bit of a dilemma.
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My opinion is that he will be fit enough to last the whole 90 mins no problem, the problem is when things are not going our way and its backs against the wall and changes need to be made, unfortunately with the type of player he is it can look at times look like you are carrying him, he is a creative flair player with skill in abundance but will always be in and out of games if you know what i mean.
 
Everyone appears to have assumed that he can't last 90 mins, but let's face it he's not been given the opportunity. This team cannot in itself perform for 90 mins - Saturday being the latest example of that. When the team sits back it doesn't play to his strengths, so he looks ineffective. If and when we get a game without a Jekyll and Hide performance, we'll see what he can do.
 
All the professional coaches with expertise of developing youth players on here should really get in touch with the club. We could have the best academy in world football.

Critchley brought the player to Blackpool and we likely only got the player on the back of a promise to develop him. It’s not just Critchley making the decision to play him or not, but advice from physios, sports scientists, other coaches and then all the coaches from Dembeles parent club too.

The player’s incredible talented but still has areas of his game to develop. There’s not a coach in the EFL with a reputation and CV better than Critchley when it comes to developing some of the best young talents.

Last year we had another extremely talented player in Patino. He didn’t develop at all whilst here. He played too much football if anything and we probably hindered his career and progress. The same goes for Fiorini, Poveda the Canadian lad and Rogers too.

Footballs not like fifa. You don’t just bring in top players chuck them in the starting XI and let them do their thing.

Every single player in the Blackpool squad will improve under Critchley - that’s already happened over the course of the season so far. Come Spring I’m certain we’ll be comfortably in the playoffs and pushing for a top 2 finish
 
LA1 Seasider said:
All the professional coaches with expertise of developing youth players on here should really get in touch with the club. We could have the best academy in world football.

Critchley brought the player to Blackpool and we likely only got the player on the back of a promise to develop him. It’s not just Critchley making the decision to play him or not, but advice from physios, sports scientists, other coaches and then all the coaches from Dembeles parent club too.

The player’s incredible talented but still has areas of his game to develop. There’s not a coach in the EFL with a reputation and CV better than Critchley when it comes to developing some of the best young talents.

Last year we had another extremely talented player in Patino. He didn’t develop at all whilst here. He played too much football if anything and we probably hindered his career and progress. The same goes for Fiorini, Poveda the Canadian lad and Rogers too.

Footballs not like fifa. You don’t just bring in top players chuck them in the starting XI and let them do their thing.

Every single player in the Blackpool squad will improve under Critchley - that’s already happened over the course of the season so far. Come Spring I’m certain we’ll be comfortably in the playoffs and pushing for a top 2 finish
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I have to say that is one of the most sensible posts i have personally seen on here, obviously LA1 you have an understanding on how things work in the background and not just what you see on a match day
 
Dembele is the sort of player you are happy to pay to watch.
Again he reminds me of Wes who also appeared to have the ball tied to his bootlaces.
 
LA1 Seasider said:
All the professional coaches with expertise of developing youth players on here should really get in touch with the club. We could have the best academy in world football.

Critchley brought the player to Blackpool and we likely only got the player on the back of a promise to develop him. It’s not just Critchley making the decision to play him or not, but advice from physios, sports scientists, other coaches and then all the coaches from Dembeles parent club too.

The player’s incredible talented but still has areas of his game to develop. There’s not a coach in the EFL with a reputation and CV better than Critchley when it comes to developing some of the best young talents.

Last year we had another extremely talented player in Patino. He didn’t develop at all whilst here. He played too much football if anything and we probably hindered his career and progress. The same goes for Fiorini, Poveda the Canadian lad and Rogers too.

Footballs not like fifa. You don’t just bring in top players chuck them in the starting XI and let them do their thing.

Every single player in the Blackpool squad will improve under Critchley - that’s already happened over the course of the season so far. Come Spring I’m certain we’ll be comfortably in the playoffs and pushing for a top 2 finish
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Fair stuff. No doubt he is a very good coach- I don't think you'll find anyway who wouldn't agree with you there.

I think it's the management side that people get a bit annoyed with.

Is a coach the same as a manager? Two entirely different jobs with maybe crossovers?
 
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