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A reminder, should you need or want it, that it bowls off at 4am (UK time, for seasideone).

Did I hear right that Woakes has gone home?

Does Bess play? I reckon he will, even if the pitch is thought not to turn as much as the last one and interesting that Root said Eng misread the pitch and a player (can't remember who it was) said too much was made of the pitch.

I can't work out whether I'd be surprised or not to see JA and SB both play. Last game was first in 120 where neither took a wicket. Misread the pitch indeed. I'd play both ahead of Archer. All day every day.
 
All true.
Shall we make this the match thread?
I'm feeling a bit flat about it after surrendering the opportunity to beat India at home. I suppose though even a drawn series would be a big achievement on turning pitches.
 
All true.
Shall we make this the match thread?
I'm feeling a bit flat about it after surrendering the opportunity to beat India at home. I suppose though even a drawn series would be a big achievement on turning pitches.
With the World Final in the bag will the Indians spinners take their fingers off the seam? nah, course not.

I expect the normal match thread to appear in the fullness of time, if you don't mind.
 
Well, they hardly bowled, Jimmy and Stuart that is, and Jimmy had a dolly dropped off his bowling at deep gully. As we played a team full of seamers on what turned out to be, was probably always going to be, a dusty track, on the basis that the ball would swing under the lights you could say, and quite rightly I think, that the pitch was misread. As were the lights!
 
A reminder, should you need or want it, that it bowls off at 4am (UK time, for seasideone).

Did I hear right that Woakes has gone home?

Does Bess play? I reckon he will, even if the pitch is thought not to turn as much as the last one and interesting that Root said Eng misread the pitch and a player (can't remember who it was) said too much was made of the pitch.

I can't work out whether I'd be surprised or not to see JA and SB both play. Last game was first in 120 where neither took a wicket. Misread the pitch indeed. I'd play both ahead of Archer. All day every day.
FCB I think whoever it was refusing to criticise the pitch, he was just being diplomatic in my view.
I'm no cricket expert, but for a top international test match to be over in less than 2 days is a reasonable indication that the pitch was (intentionally?) shite. On day 1 the ground staff were filling up a large hole where the bowler's landing foot was. Vaughan called it right, but it doesn't look as if the ICC are going to do anything about it.

As for us, we've batted poorly against the spin with the exception of the first test ( Root mainly). I would choose Jimmy for the 4th test but not Broad, and play Bess as the extra spinner. I base that on performance so far, Jimmy has looked more dangerous. Also I want him to surpass 619 wickets this year so he overtakes Kumble and becomes the 3rd highest wicket taker of all time (currently on 611). 👍
 
Well, they hardly bowled, Jimmy and Stuart that is, and Jimmy had a dolly dropped off his bowling at deep gully. As we played a team full of seamers on what turned out to be, was probably always going to be, a dusty track, on the basis that the ball would swing under the lights you could say, and quite rightly I think, that the pitch was misread. As were the lights!
And we lost by 305 runs
I would worry more about the batting than the bowling - they bowl us out every time (we’ve only made one good score !!) and we have bowled them out a few times but we do generally bowl them out
 
After this test the T20 comes thick and fast. A game every 2 days and the the proper ODI's are every 3 days until the end of March.

Then the drought.

Nothing until June.

Not even the 'they are quite good this opposition, so let's get them to Chester-le-Street in May; that'll teach 'em' test.
 
The big worry from me is we seem to be clueless on dealing with spin in the sub continent, and yet strangely a lot of wickets fell in the last Test from balls that actually didn't spin, but our lot were playing for the ball to spin and got themselves out, either way it seems that their two top spinners Ashwin and Axar have our batsmen's numbers with only Joe Root having any idea how to survive and score runs. Our two spinners Bess and Leach are light years away from the Indian pair and I think even the Indian top order would struggle to deal with them.
 
The big worry from me is we seem to be clueless on dealing with spin in the sub continent, and yet strangely a lot of wickets fell in the last Test from balls that actually didn't spin, but our lot were playing for the ball to spin and got themselves out, either way it seems that their two top spinners Ashwin and Axar have our batsmen's numbers with only Joe Root having any idea how to survive and score runs. Our two spinners Bess and Leach are light years away from the Indian pair and I think even the Indian top order would struggle to deal with them.
This is only Axar's first Test series so I'm not sure he's miles ahead. India really want to get to that Test final so are managing the situation in a familiar way. We do it as well but not to the extent where games finish within two days.

We batted fine against Sri Lankan spin but it looked almost impossible to score on that pitch without taking huge risks. I expect the next one to spin as well but nothing like last week. We'll need to win the toss to have even a hope.
 
And we lost by 305 runs
I would worry more about the batting than the bowling - they bowl us out every time (we’ve only made one good score !!) and we have bowled them out a few times but we do generally bowl them out
Too much was made of the spin. At least half the wickets fell to playing round a straight ball.
 
Unless Root gets a big score we are knackered. Rabbits in the headlights spring to mind, it will be another dust bowl and we will just capitulate.

Even so, it will keep us entertained for a couple of mornings 🙂
 
We'll get battered again for one fact.

India have pretty much one best side in all formats.

England have several. Fortunately we play our best 11 in the short formats of the game.

Other than a bit of batting practice for 2 or 3 the test side is useless. And the same old bowling unit that was peaking a decade ago.

I'll keep a view on it. And it's so novel to see a red ball. Weird little things the middle classes call a "Cherry" lol
 
The last proper match for a while. I can't get remotely interested in the party knockabouts unless it's a world cup. Full marks to C4 for showing it free to air.
 
Too much was made of the spin. At least half the wickets fell to playing round a straight ball.
True Wiz but if you can't pick what the ball is going to do, and a lot of the time neither can the bowler, it does make it a 50-50 gamble. We have some promising young players who are finding out in these tests just what it takes to be an international player who can prosper anywhere in the world. Some won't be seen on this stage again whilst one or two might kick on.
 
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