Anyone remember Loze Rose

Yep, it's a name I remember from about 1982 when I was an under 9. At the club I was at even listening to parents and managers back then he was heavily disliked.

Hasten to add, it wasn't for anything like in the gazette for litigation purposes!!!!
 
Played for YMCA back in the 90s in my teens and he was always around coaching and later some form of admin for YMCA as a whole.
Scary really when you think the amount of times he was alone with us all in changing rooms etc etc.
 
yep, played in the same team as him back in the early 70's. Know loads of good players he's coached thru from a young age.
 
Absolutely shocking. Think a few ex Blackpool first team players started out at YM with him. Coached me too many many years ago...scary to think what could have happened.
 
Not seen this but I'm not liking what I'm hearing from the above posts.
He was the main man in the LSA YMCA football section for years.
 
Whenever I played against YM in the early 80's, he seemed to be disliked by his own players as much as opponents and was subsequently
the reason why I never signed for them.
 
He is still in denial claiming to have been set up by a clever copper 😳. ( According to Gazette report )
 
‘I pleaded guilty.....but I know nothing happened’

Why would anyone plead guilty to grooming a 12 year old boy if he hadn’t actually groomed a 12 year old boy.

Disgusting old man.
 
Mr YMCA.

Didn't have him down for anything like this although one of my mates did use to suggest otherwise.

He often used to write to the Gazette re the Mighty, he was very critical of McMahon, he thought that McMahon favoured Scouse over local talent.
 
Punishment seems weak,would be good to hear views from some of the ex stars in his perverted era. Steve Walsh and Mark Cowburn,with what P.Stewart and others have been through,either speak out or stand by him. Should be ran out of town.
 
Lozz Rose gave his whole time and energy to the YMCA and Children's football in the Fylde.
it's total bollox (or just bitterness & jealousy of the YM) that there was ever anything said about him in this way at anytime over the years.
I know guys who worked with him at the YM, were in his football team and were managers of other age groups at the same time.....
I know many were shocked at what happened......and for that Lozz lost his job and a major part of his life.....and reputation.

There's no way to defend what happened and to even say I feel sorry for him may cause some of you to have a go at me.
But I always found him to be a decent man.......all but one who made a very poor mistake.
 
B_Side_The_C_Side said:
Lozz Rose gave his whole time and energy to the YMCA and Children's football in the Fylde.
it's total bollox (or just bitterness & jealousy of the YM) that there was ever anything said about him in this way at anytime over the years.
I know guys who worked with him at the YM, were in his football team and were managers of other age groups at the same time.....
I know many were shocked at what happened......and for that Lozz lost his job and a major part of his life.....and reputation.

There's no way to defend what happened and to even say I feel sorry for him may cause some of you to have a go at me.
But I always found him to be a decent man.......all but one who made a very poor mistake.
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What on earth are you going on about?

Total Bollux? He’s pleaded and been found guilty in a court of law of sexual messaging what he thought to be a 12 year old lad. Sending naked pictures among much else I’m told.

Firstly that calls in to question why he put all his time and effort into children’s football and secondly the “poor mistake” you quote is illegal and one of the lowest forms of scummy behaviour you’ll ever come across from an adult. I’ve worked previously with kids who’ve survived sexual abuse, it completely destroyed their lives and robbed them of the right to a happy childhood, by adults who knew the consequences but still selfishly wrecked children’s lives.

Yet you feel sorry for a man who’d have happily destroyed a child’s life for his own perverted sexual gratification. Give your head a significant wobble. He’s a piece of absolute scum.

He is even denying he did anything wrong!

I and many others had been put in significant danger by this man in our childhood, thankfully, so far as we know, we had a lucky escape
 
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He is even denying he did anything wrong!

I and many others had been put in significant danger by this man in our childhood thankfully, so far as we know, we had a lucky escape
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The problem has always been with predators is the admission of guilt and some misguided sense of injustice, as we saw with say Harris and Hall.
The telling thing here is that he had his computer destroyed but we don't really know the depths he sank to, and it's likely any victims just want to ignore it and not allow their lives to be wrecked.

There's been enough stuff floating around to suggest this form of abuse was commonplace in football circles, where thankfully we've now got guidelines and rules to protect young people.
 
Plumbs said:
The problem has always been with predators is the admission of guilt and some misguided sense of injustice, as we saw with say Harris and Hall.
The telling thing here is that he had his computer destroyed but we don't really know the depths he sank to, and it's likely any victims just want to ignore it and not allow their lives to be wrecked.

There's been enough stuff floating around to suggest this form of abuse was commonplace in football circles, where thankfully we've now got guidelines and rules to protect young people.
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Agreed. Hopefully as time moves on this crime becomes a thing of the past.
 
The pc destruction says everything. He can deny his messaging of the policeman but not the obscenity found within the computer.
Sorry but it makes my skin crawl
 
B_Side_The_C_Side said:
Lozz Rose gave his whole time and energy to the YMCA and Children's football in the Fylde.
it's total bollox (or just bitterness & jealousy of the YM) that there was ever anything said about him in this way at anytime over the years.
I know guys who worked with him at the YM, were in his football team and were managers of other age groups at the same time.....
I know many were shocked at what happened......and for that Lozz lost his job and a major part of his life.....and reputation.

There's no way to defend what happened and to even say I feel sorry for him may cause some of you to have a go at me.
But I always found him to be a decent man.......all but one who made a very poor mistake.
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Nonce defender ... weird
 
B_Side_The_C_Side said:
There's no way to defend what happened and to even say I feel sorry for him may cause some of you to have a go at me.
But I always found him to be a decent man.......all but one who made a very poor mistake.
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The tone of your post defends him.

Disgusting act and complete denial/lack of remorse should have seen the old man jailed.
 
B_Side_The_C_Side said:
Lozz Rose gave his whole time and energy to the YMCA and Children's football in the Fylde.
it's total bollox (or just bitterness & jealousy of the YM) that there was ever anything said about him in this way at anytime over the years.
I know guys who worked with him at the YM, were in his football team and were managers of other age groups at the same time.....
I know many were shocked at what happened......and for that Lozz lost his job and a major part of his life.....and reputation.

There's no way to defend what happened and to even say I feel sorry for him may cause some of you to have a go at me.
But I always found him to be a decent man.......all but one who made a very poor mistake.
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Don't ever wonder why anyone in future disregards anything you ever put on here after that utter bollux you just posted.
 
Discojohndeary said:
His perhaps misguided defence is no reason to disregard every point of view he holds. That is bollux.
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Not everyone is quite as open minded as you then. However, some will ignore and some won't....and it would be no surprise to me if it's the latter (as I was simply pointing out to the OP......and I said 'anyone' NOT 'everyone')
 
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Miko said:
Not everyone is quite as open minded as you then. However, some will ignore and some won't....and it would be no surprise to me if it's the latter (as I was simply pointing out to the OP......and I said 'anyone' NOT 'everyone')
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It isn't a matter of open-mindedness. It's a question of whether we should totally dismiss an individual for expressing what we might regard as an objectionable opinion. I don't agree with yours, but it would be infantile, simplistic and destructive to reject every other view you hold on that basis alone, wouldn't it?
 
groundsman said:
Anyone who played football at the YMCA in the 1980's will know Lozz. I went on several of the summer camps to Lakeside.
Also if anyone remembers David Lean, he has wide documentation about being abused as a child within football surrounding. He played at YMCA too.
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What a top guy Dave Lean is. I was heart broken for him when it came out a few years ago.
 
B_Side_The_C_Side said:
Lozz Rose gave his whole time and energy to the YMCA and Children's football in the Fylde.
it's total bollox (or just bitterness & jealousy of the YM) that there was ever anything said about him in this way at anytime over the years.
I know guys who worked with him at the YM, were in his football team and were managers of other age groups at the same time.....
I know many were shocked at what happened......and for that Lozz lost his job and a major part of his life.....and reputation.

There's no way to defend what happened and to even say I feel sorry for him may cause some of you to have a go at me.
But I always found him to be a decent man.......all but one who made a very poor mistake.
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Honestly can’t believe I’ve just read that, it’s not a very poor mistake.

It’s pedophilia plain and simple, he’s a very sick individual. Chemical castration and a jail term for me.
 
B_Side_The_C_Side said:
Lozz Rose gave his whole time and energy to the YMCA and Children's football in the Fylde.
it's total bollox (or just bitterness & jealousy of the YM) that there was ever anything said about him in this way at anytime over the years.
I know guys who worked with him at the YM, were in his football team and were managers of other age groups at the same time.....
I know many were shocked at what happened......and for that Lozz lost his job and a major part of his life.....and reputation.

There's no way to defend what happened and to even say I feel sorry for him may cause some of you to have a go at me.
But I always found him to be a decent man.......all but one who made a very poor mistake.
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I agree with some of the things you say there pal as I too have know Lozz for many years, and as far as I am aware there has never previously been a hint of this, HOWEVER.......the fact remains that for whatever reason, firstly the police decided to target him in a classic sting operation where an officer goes online and pretends to be a child aged 12.

The police would not do this unless there was something said or something done that instigated this action.

Secondly the police provided the CPS with the evidence they had collected, and in their view it was worth pursuing in the courts.

The CPS would not do this unless they were convinced a conviction was likely.

Finally the defence advised Lozz to plead guilty and in my experience the only time that they would do that was if they were convinced a guilty verdict was likely, therefore a lesser penalty would be given if a guilty plea was lodged, and the man pleaded guilty to the offence.

I'm sorry but this scenario is too damning to suggest any amount of time and energy to the YMCA and children's football in general would exempt him to a pardon or from any sympathy from the local community.

No way, not ever, because children need protecting at all times from people like Lozz Rose.
 
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I used to go the his Saturday night football club at the YM in St Anne's and know loads of lads who played for him including good mates.

The main complaint about him was that he hoovered up the best players, never heard or saw anything else.
 
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It's an emotive subject and I agree with raging...in a case like this there is no smoke without fire and he wasnt singled out by the police for no reason. Any talk of one "mistake" just doesnt wash.
 
Really sad to read the Dave Leans story. Heartbreaking.
Truth is, in that era I know loads of lads who would have been suckered in with the promises of a football career. Myself included.
I'm sorry to say its become ever more apparent that life in he UK leading up to the 90's was fully of clubs and societies where this behaviour was both prevalent and overlooked.

In-appropriate behaviour was systemic and built into the fabric at work and at play.
I cringe when I thing back to my work career in the early 80's.
I'm sure that we only know half of it because quite frankly the UK was a very different place then

what Loz has done is disgracefu and unacceptable I hope he rots
 
B_Side_The_C_Side said:
Lozz Rose gave his whole time and energy to the YMCA and Children's football in the Fylde.
it's total bollox (or just bitterness & jealousy of the YM) that there was ever anything said about him in this way at anytime over the years.
I know guys who worked with him at the YM, were in his football team and were managers of other age groups at the same time.....
I know many were shocked at what happened......and for that Lozz lost his job and a major part of his life.....and reputation.

There's no way to defend what happened and to even say I feel sorry for him may cause some of you to have a go at me.
But I always found him to be a decent man.......all but one who made a very poor mistake.
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Your post is absolutely terrible in every regard. I genuinely struggle to believe you typed that up and sent it.

This is child abuse pure and simple and he is guilty but your sympathy lies with the child abuser. Have you read David Lean’s story?.....I suggest you do

I won’t be interacting with you in any way from now on.
 
As someone who has been involved in local football for more than 30 years this whole episode is hugely uncomfortable.
It's terrifying to think how much of this goes on, good on the Old Bill for identifying and convicting this case.
The defence doesn't was with me.
 
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