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With our track record of youth players making the first team, I think it's essential every player has a Plan B.

Didn't rate Ryan Hardie, now at Plymouth.

He's a well respected bloke, did well here in difficult circumstances. Liked his stories about us.

Disappointed, yes, opportunity lost, yes. Away from home you have to have a plan B, and we didn't. That simple really.

For the older ones, read Jon Newby and Luke Beckett.

For the older fans. I remember thinking we couldn't get Tony Cunningham, Keith Walwyn or Tony Ellis, and all of them arrived. Nothing surprises me anymore.

I think a more measured response is 'not enough of them' and not enough characters, as someone else has said. Gabriel (when fit), Lyons (when fit), Lavery (when fit), is also a pattern. Dembele. Hence we are where we are.

Form side.

Not all up and coming are ok. Ian Foster at Plymouth and even Neil Critchley were in similar jobs to Kieran McKenna.

I do wonder what people expect. If we won every game 1-0, and won the whole competition, nobody would remember the performances, just the trophy.

Someone will surely correct me, but I'm sure he didn't play 3-5-2 in his first spell with us? As someone has already said, 3-5-2 can be attacking, and it can be defensive. My concern is that managers do try different formations in one game to change the outcome. And they won't wait until the...

Set up and ran the vets team for the first few years :)

AVFTT fans have short memories when it doesn't fit their argument.

A new manager? We've a good record when it comes to changing managers. Grayson, Appleton, McCarthy. Next. Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows it's not good to keep changing the manager. A fan of another club told me we 'deserved' McCarthy for all the stick the fans gave Appleton. Be...

As Leither says, of course it's not over. Nothing is as bad as watching some of that stuff served up last season.

Apart from Le Tournoi we've not won anything since 1966. Southgate has got nearer than anyone in changing that - and for what it's worth Venables and Hoddle were better managers. Rice first pick in CM. I don't think he had much choice but to pick Henderson ahead of Phillips as second choice...

It's only the result that matters.

Let's hope the lads being aggrieved help us kick on. The shithousery has been missing, as well as consistency.

Speedy Recovery Andy!

Good player. but think he had a knee injury which ultimately finished his career. Played for us after he sustained it I think.