Squad next season - Keep and get rid

Athers

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I don’t think we’re quite good enough to reach the play offs this season. And that’s ok. Critchley had to put together a completely new squad. Plus, I’d rather go up with fans there. This is all a bit, you know, rubbish following on iFollow.

I don’t buy the comments on us being “shit” from some online. We’re a promising young squad who’ll only get better. I’d say we’re just one of many average teams in an average division who can be brilliant one week and bang average the following. Anyway. The point of this thread. Here’s who I’d keep and get rid of next season:

Keep:
Maxwell
Mitchell
Ekpiteta
Grettarson
Garbutt
Ward
Robson
Dougall
Virtue
Antwi
Anderson
Hamilton
Yates
Madine

Get Rid:
Sims
Fojticek
Husband
Turton
Howe
Thorniley
Williams
Sarkic
Kaikai
Lubala

Ten may seem excessive, but we need better than those on the get rid list to kick on to the next level. No room in football for sentiment
 
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I think Madine will go but I also think Mitchell will because he just isnt getting game time. He will be a good signing for someone but I dont think its going to work out with us. I would sell Virtue aswell...I dont think he brings enough to the table to be a first choice centre mid. I agree with you on the rest.

I hope Nathan Shaw may improve and be retained and we can bring some yoof through

We would then nedd 5-6 quality new faces in including another keeper
 
Can't see Dougall staying either with his performances contracted till next year so will get a few quid in the till shame it can't go on wages to keep Madine.
I bloody hate the salary cap complete bobbins.
 
With the salary cap I doubt we'll bring in another keeper with much experience, Sims will be on next to nothing which will help with allocating wages elsewhere; it makes no sense tying up a significant amount of money in a position which all being well would only play a handful of cup games over the course of the season.
I agree with the rest except Bez, who needs time and games before being written off.
I'd like us to have a slightly smaller squad fleshed out with first/second year pros meaning we can then offer more to players in key positions.

How ironic that we finally get an owner willing to throw some money around just as a salary cap comes in.
We really need to get out of this division ASAP.
 
With the salary cap I doubt we'll bring in another keeper with much experience, Sims will be on next to nothing which will help with allocating wages elsewhere; it makes no sense tying up a significant amount of money in a position which all being well would only play a handful of cup games over the course of the season.
I agree with the rest except Bez, who needs time and games before being written off.
I'd like us to have a slightly smaller squad fleshed out with first/second year pros meaning we can then offer more to players in key positions.

How ironic that we finally get an owner willing to throw some money around just as a salary cap comes in.
We really need to get out of this division ASAP.
With the homegrown rule if we were to get rid of Simms we would still need another goalkeeper on the bench and a youngster which is basically a waste of two subs.
Fojticek qualifies also so why would you get rid of both.
 
The wage cap applies to one and all so will someone be willing to allocate a significant proportion of their wage bill on Gary Madine? Can't see him being snapped up by a Championship Club.
Why not with the silly wages the Championship pay someone could get him for free and roughly what we are paying now in wages, keeps playing well he'll be putting himself in the shop window.
 
Keep:

Maxwell
Ekpiteta
Grettarson
Turton- Probs on low wages. Sure enough defensively to keep him on as our reserve right back.
Williams- Thought he looked quite good overall and very composed on the ball in the limited minutes he has had.
Ward
Dougall
Hamilton
Yates
Madine

Get rid:

Husband
Howe
Thorniley
Robson
Kaikai
Lubala

Unsure:

Mitchell- Needs more minutes.
Garbutt- Depends if he stays fit as he is probably a top earner. Definitely one of our best players when he is fit.
Virtue- If he improves this season then keep. Not good enough based on last season IMO.

No idea due to lack of minutes:

Sims
Fojticek
Antwi
Sarkic
 
There’s obviously a salary cap. But was I correct in thinking there’s also a limit on squad numbers from next year?

That’ll have an impact.
 
With the salary cap I doubt we'll bring in another keeper with much experience, Sims will be on next to nothing which will help with allocating wages elsewhere; it makes no sense tying up a significant amount of money in a position which all being well would only play a handful of cup games over the course of the season.
I agree with the rest except Bez, who needs time and games before being written off.
I'd like us to have a slightly smaller squad fleshed out with first/second year pros meaning we can then offer more to players in key positions.

How ironic that we finally get an owner willing to throw some money around just as a salary cap comes in.
We really need to get out of this division ASAP.
Some good points raised there. Would be interesting to see a study of div 1 - 2 clubs to see who had the highest percentage of first team players come through their youth policies. Also how the teams with more of their own were performing. I'd think the bond between team and fan base would up the anti performance wise
 
I don’t think we’re quite good enough to reach the play offs this season. And that’s ok. Critchley had to put together a completely new squad. Plus, I’d rather go up with fans there. This is all a bit, you know, rubbish following on iFollow.

I don’t buy the comments on us being “shit” from some online. We’re a promising young squad who’ll only get better. I’d say we’re just one of many average teams in an average division who can be brilliant one week and bang average the following. Anyway. The point of this thread. Here’s who I’d keep and get rid of next season:

Keep:
Maxwell
Mitchell
Ekpiteta
Grettarson
Garbutt
Ward
Robson
Dougall
Virtue
Antwi
Anderson
Hamilton
Yates
Madine

Get Rid:
Sims
Fojticek
Husband
Turton
Howe
Thorniley
Williams
Sarkic
Kaikai
Lubala

Ten may seem excessive, but we need better than those on the get rid list to kick on to the next level. No room in football for sentiment
I agree with your list except for Ballard. I don't think we've got a snowball's chance.
 
I don’t think we’re quite good enough to reach the play offs this season. And that’s ok. Critchley had to put together a completely new squad. Plus, I’d rather go up with fans there. This is all a bit, you know, rubbish following on iFollow.

I don’t buy the comments on us being “shit” from some online. We’re a promising young squad who’ll only get better. I’d say we’re just one of many average teams in an average division who can be brilliant one week and bang average the following. Anyway. The point of this thread. Here’s who I’d keep and get rid of next season:

Keep:
Maxwell
Mitchell
Ekpiteta
Grettarson
Garbutt
Ward
Robson
Dougall
Virtue
Antwi
Anderson
Hamilton
Yates
Madine

Get Rid:
Sims
Fojticek
Husband
Turton
Howe
Thorniley
Williams
Sarkic
Kaikai
Lubala

Ten may seem excessive, but we need better than those on the get rid list to kick on to the next level. No room in football for sentiment
Can’t really disagree with that Joe on current form?
Only one I’d be tempted to keep is Turton purely because like James Milner he can cover a lot of positions adequately when we have injury problems or crap cup matches.
He can do a decent job as back up
 
I don’t think we’re quite good enough to reach the play offs this season. And that’s ok. Critchley had to put together a completely new squad. Plus, I’d rather go up with fans there. This is all a bit, you know, rubbish following on iFollow.

I don’t buy the comments on us being “shit” from some online. We’re a promising young squad who’ll only get better. I’d say we’re just one of many average teams in an average division who can be brilliant one week and bang average the following. Anyway. The point of this thread. Here’s who I’d keep and get rid of next season:

Keep:
Maxwell
Mitchell
Ekpiteta
Grettarson
Garbutt
Ward
Robson
Dougall
Virtue
Antwi
Anderson
Hamilton
Yates
Madine

Get Rid:
Sims
Fojticek
Husband
Turton
Howe
Thorniley
Williams
Sarkic
Kaikai
Lubala

Ten may seem excessive, but we need better than those on the get rid list to kick on to the next level. No room in football for sentiment
A question for you Athers,

Can we have Dougall, Ward, Robson, Anderson, Virtue and Antwi on the books with a salary cap and two central midfield roles most games?
 
Surprised no ones mentioned the players we currently have out on loan at other clubs are we saying their all bobbins so get rid?
Nuttall
Hardie
Who’s the guy at Fylde?
Anyone else?
 
Madine will go because he knows Critchley didn’t really want him in his plans and he will want to maintain his earnings. Rumour that they are chalk and cheese personality wise too so both sides probably accept it’s a departure at the end of the year.

His performances when selected aren’t doing him any harm getting fixed up elsewhere. The question is what are we going to to replace his presence?
 
I don’t think we’re quite good enough to reach the play offs this season. And that’s ok. Critchley had to put together a completely new squad. Plus, I’d rather go up with fans there. This is all a bit, you know, rubbish following on iFollow.

I don’t buy the comments on us being “shit” from some online. We’re a promising young squad who’ll only get better. I’d say we’re just one of many average teams in an average division who can be brilliant one week and bang average the following. Anyway. The point of this thread. Here’s who I’d keep and get rid of next season:

Keep:
Maxwell
Mitchell
Ekpiteta
Grettarson
Garbutt
Ward
Robson
Dougall
Virtue
Antwi
Anderson
Hamilton
Yates
Madine

Get Rid:
Sims
Fojticek
Husband
Turton
Howe
Thorniley
Williams
Sarkic
Kaikai
Lubala

Ten may seem excessive, but we need better than those on the get rid list to kick on to the next level. No room in football for sentiment
Disagree with Lubala, Husband and Turton. On the fence with KaiKai. Sarkic, Howe and Fojticek need loaning out.

Williams looked ok at the start of the season but was massively outshone when Douglas came into the team.
 
I believe so and that's why we need to start grooming Holmes, Apter and Bange for next season because they are our bonus.
The squad certainly needs a short back and sides and Athers in his post wasn't far off the mark IMO of course.
Yes I think we do when you factor in transfers we’ll need on the next 6 months namely, another RB,CB and striker I don’t think we can afford that overload in midfield. Moving people on who are under contract is easier said than done.
Amtwi won't count will he? He's under the age limit.
Yes good point he won’t. But it will still effect any game time for him and as Insy says, I’m of the same opinion I think we need to start bringing these lads on.
 
Agree with all those stated to keep, but I'd keep Turton and Lubala as well.

The important thing for me is that I think this summer will be the first in quite a while where we don't require a massive squad overhaul. There's no excuse to not go into next season with a fully settled squad right from the start.
 
My team for next season would be
Maxwell, sims
Turton, Marv, viking mitchell
Dougall, Anderson, Virtue, Hamilton, Robson, ward, Apter
Yates, Lubala. Holmes, Bange.
I would personally get rid of Fojticek, Howe, Thorniley, Nuttall , Hardie, William's, kaikai, sarkic and Madine will go because of salary and I think Garbutt will go to the championship. I would also promote Holmes and Bange to the first team properly. Meaning we have 3 spaces for new players. Personally I would bring back Kyle Vassell and then we are going to need another centre back and somebody who can play both rwb and lbw. I think that team will be strong enough for promotion.
 
With that in mind, I think our squad next year will need to look something like this.

GK - Maxwell (1) - another under 21 back up as I’m sure Simms won’t count next year and is miles away from first team football.

Def - Marv (2), Gretarson (3), new CB signing ready to step up (4), Garbutt (5), Husband (6), Gabriel/or some signing of similar quality (7).

Midfield - CJ (8), Dougall (9), Virtue (10), Ward (11), Anderson (12), Bez (13), Mitchell (14), a new signing creative midfielder type (15), Williams/ or new signing of similar ability to cover for Dougall (16).

Attack - Yates (17), Madine (18), New striker (19), New striker (20).

Outgoings -
Thorneily - not in favour
Howe - not in favour
Robson - surplus to requirements, over recruited in midfield might be tough to move on however.
Sarkic - MIA
Garrity - just can’t see him beating anyone out
Hardie - wages against the cap move on
Nuttall - See above
Kai Kai - good player somewhere can’t have luxuries
Turton - again good player but if you want to get out of league one need to improve
Devitt -
Feeney -
macDonald -
Yussuf. - No explanation needed for the last four.

The squad can also be complimented by people like Bange, Shaw, Antwi and Apter if they don’t get loaned out.
 
Dougall won’t be going anywhere and we don’t need the money either ???
Odd post
Why it is an odd post we all agree Dougall is a level above Lge1 so in the summer say a championship club comes calling not a chance the player will want to stay under the salary cap if we need the money or not,
 
Can’t really disagree with that Joe on current form?
Only one I’d be tempted to keep is Turton purely because like James Milner he can cover a lot of positions adequately when we have injury problems or crap cup matches.
He can do a decent job as back up
What other positions?
 
Why it is an odd post we all agree Dougall is a level above Lge1 so in the summer say a championship club comes calling not a chance the player will want to stay under the salary cap if we need the money or not,
I think you slightly over estimate him and underestimate our club. We wouldn’t get any sort of fee worth considering and he’s in a good place here. He would only go if we wanted him to.
 
Keep most. Just remove Howe and Thornily and the guys on loan (bar Shaw). Send a few on loan I.e Mitchell and Bez and Sarcic. Get a few on loan of the Ballard and KDH standard. Would only sign maybe 4 or 5 but with the aim of quality. I.E players that should be among our best at minimum.
 
Can’t believe some want rid of a 23 year old attacking based player in Lubala who’s on a 3 year contract and expect him to be amazing from day one.

He has shown glimpses and works hard, id say let him settle this season then I reckon next season he will flourish.

Also don’t understand the flack Turton gets, he’s solid enough and can play in numerous positions, I’m not saying he should be starting every week next season but I’d definitely keep him on as well.
 
My understanding is that any player who was contracted before the 6th August 2020 does not count towards the salary cap. Hence why players were mainly signed early in the window AND for long contracts. After the Oyston years it is very hard to fathom that we have a strategic thinking management team who have mitigated the impact of salary capping as much as possible. Puts is in a strong position compared to most other teams.
 
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