Its all a bit average isn't it?

and it was sad and frustrating to see a coach make the same basic errors around shape over and over again.
The reason Critch came under a lot of pressure was he appeared to be following the same approach, when we’d been through it all before with Grayson. That we’d started so brightly preseason also increased the frustration level. Glad he turned it around a bit.
 
Grayson got dogs abuse for so called hoof ball

Not much different to now except the Grayson team had players who could cross the ball playing on the correct side of the pitch

We dont set up to get our wide players high enough the pitch

If we are going to continue with this 442 we must have someone like Garbutt or Mitchell on the left and a right footed wide player on the right
I wouldn't call what we play hoof ball but I agree with your main point, if we are going to play 4 4 2 with Madine and Yates then we need wide players that can whip in a decent cross on their best foot and not forever be looking to come inside making most attack fizzle out.
Would also be good to see us get more than 2 players into the opposition penalty area in open play, it hardly ever happens.
 
Ok i will be honest i didn't want Critchley as our manager, I've said as much several times

I wanted someone with more experience

Our transfer window was all a bit scattergun signing loads of attacking players who don't have set positions

We must have about half a dozen of this sort

We also started the season without a proper defensive midfield player Dougall came in later as did the Viking and Ballard

All 3 are great signings imo

So we basically started the season under prepared for the season ahead

We were sold on fast attacking football with a high press, like some sort of tikki takka Barcelona of the 3rd tier

I think its fair to say it didn't work

The upturn in form was when Madine came back into favour along with the 3 who i mention above

Madine is a target man but is also a bit of a leader and a character, he wasn't first choice by any stretch of the imagination as he doesn't really fit into the football philosophy that the board and manager had been pushing all season

So we are kinda stuck between getting results the ugly way with a more traditional 442 or 4411

Or the more expensive way and Critchleys obviously preferred system of 433

I have no problem with either style or system as long as we are getting results

But lets be honest we certainly aren't playing the attacking football that we have been promised

Its a bit of a dilemma for sure and at the moment we appear to have several players out of form and a bit confused on their roles

I dont know why we are playing wide men on their wrong side like kaikai when we have at least 2 other left footed players who could perform that role better

Kaikai is this months scapegoat a few have worn that badge this season when in reality we should be looking at Critchley

These are Critchley players now, his system and tactics and its all a bit average and a million miles away from the fast attacking free flowing football that we were all promised

Results are ok and we are doing ok in the league about mid table and about where we were this time last season

All a bit average isn't it?

Utp...
This season mid table will do for me as long as we are building for next season, which I think we are. There will also be more additions to the squad, and hopefully a play off push next season.

I'm not a particularly good armchair fan so not really arsed this season but obviously don't want to get relegated.

Build this season, crack on next with a bouncing Bloomfield.
 
We may be mid table but are we in a false position?

You certainly need luck and it just hasn’t gone our way in most games.

Can anyone say we didn’t deserve any of our wins.
Or the draws we have earned, Maybe Accrington but I cannot think of any.

Now look back at other games where we deserved a lot more.

I am talking about Plymouth, Crewe, Lincoln, Wimbledon, Donny ( remember stonewall penalty)Oxford and even Bristol Rovers.
I am not looking at these games wearing tangerine specs neither.

Worth mentioning that we have only played 9 games out of 21 at home so far.

We are at least 5 points better than our league position suggests.
 
We may be mid table but are we in a false position?

You certainly need luck and it just hasn’t gone our way in most games.

Can anyone say we didn’t deserve any of our wins.
Or the draws we have earned, Maybe Accrington but I cannot think of any.

Now look back at other games where we deserved a lot more.

I am talking about Plymouth, Crewe, Lincoln, Wimbledon, Donny ( remember stonewall penalty)Oxford and even Bristol Rovers.
I am not looking at these games wearing tangerine specs neither.

Worth mentioning that we have only played 9 games out of 21 at home so far.

We are at least 5 points better than our league position suggests.
Sorry but thats bollocks

League tables do not lie

We haven't hammered any team this season, most of our wins are by one goal and i could argue we were lucky to beat MKD who controlled the game and also Wigan at home when we were really poor
 
Honestly the people who think ward who runs around pulling out of every challenge and header basically hiding is class then I hope you have zero ambition of us going up. Kai Kais attitude stinks.
Robson has never played regular football and now I get why.
lubala I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt he’s still young but he needs to improve quick.
 
Sorry but thats bollocks

League tables do not lie

We haven't hammered any team this season, most of our wins are by one goal and i could argue we were lucky to beat MKD who controlled the game and also Wigan at home when we were really poor
Our league position is about right. We’re a mid-table team that’s got better but is still capable of a poor performance against average teams; as proved by the Bristol Rovers and Shrewsbury defeats.

Ward is not outstanding but we miss him when he’s not playing. Based on what I’ve seen, no central midfielders other than Dougall are strong for the league. All the others are adequate but lack something to push them on. In the case of Robson and Virtue, both players could get better and are worth persevering with. Ward is fine for now, but you feel we need better to progress.

The same applies for Turton and Husband.
 
Honestly the people who think ward who runs around pulling out of every challenge and header basically hiding is class then I hope you have zero ambition of us going up. Kai Kais attitude stinks.
Robson has never played regular football and now I get why.
lubala I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt he’s still young but he needs to improve quick.
I keep reading people saying Kaikais attitude stinks and i really dont understand how people can tell that by watching matches from their laptop

Yes he's currently out of form but is also playing out of position

If it wasn't for his winners against wigan and milton keynes we would be 6 points worse off
 
We may be mid table but are we in a false position?

You certainly need luck and it just hasn’t gone our way in most games.

Can anyone say we didn’t deserve any of our wins.
Or the draws we have earned, Maybe Accrington but I cannot think of any.

Now look back at other games where we deserved a lot more.

I am talking about Plymouth, Crewe, Lincoln, Wimbledon, Donny ( remember stonewall penalty)Oxford and even Bristol Rovers.
I am not looking at these games wearing tangerine specs neither.

Worth mentioning that we have only played 9 games out of 21 at home so far.

We are at least 5 points better than our league position suggests.
I think you are wearing tangerine specs. We simply haven't been good enough, in our build up play and especially in the final third.
 
Our league position is about right. We’re a mid-table team that’s got better but is still capable of a poor performance against average teams; as proved by the Bristol Rovers and Shrewsbury defeats.

Ward is not outstanding but we miss him when he’s not playing. Based on what I’ve seen, no central midfielders other than Dougall are strong for the league. All the others are adequate but lack something to push them on. In the case of Robson and Virtue, both players could get better and are worth persevering with. Ward is fine for now, but you feel we need better to progress

ward is just about good enough for mid table league one.
dougall maybe good enough for promotion
Robson hasn’t showed anything really.
virtue could deffo be good enough if he gets the bit between his teeth and applies himself properly
I keep reading people saying Kaikais attitude stinks and i really dont understand how people can tell that by watching matches from their laptop

Yes he's currently out of form but is also playing out of position

If it wasn't for his winners against wigan and milton keynes we would be 6 points worse off
so you have backed up your argument for Kai Kai, who doesn’t graft or chase or Harry unless the ball is played to his feet.
what about your Argument for ward, robson and lubala ?
 
I think maybe we are focusing on individuals too much, how many players from Accrington or Lincoln or even Wycombe would you want us to sign?
For clubs like Blackpool it is about being stronger than the sum total of your parts.
It is about making the most of what you have and everybody knowing their job and having an effective plan.
 
ward is just about good enough for mid table league one.
dougall maybe good enough for promotion
Robson hasn’t showed anything really.
virtue could deffo be good enough if he gets the bit between his teeth and applies himself properly

so you have backed up your argument for Kai Kai, who doesn’t graft or chase or Harry unless the ball is played to his feet.
what about your Argument for ward, robson and lubala ?
Ward has been ok still unsure of his position to be fair

Robson was our only recognised centre mid during our abysmal start and got overrun most weeks

Not his fault to be honest and hasn't been the same player since Dougall came in

Lubala is young and raw

I wouldn't get rid of any of them
 
I think maybe we are focusing on individuals too much, how many players from Accrington or Lincoln or even Wycombe would you want us to sign?
For clubs like Blackpool it is about being stronger than the sum total of your parts.
It is about making the most of what you have and everybody knowing their job and having an effective plan.
Individuals win and lose you games.
 
Oo
Madine is an experienced player who Critchley didn't want to select but was forced into it following bad results. His form isn't down to Critchley.
Ekpiteta is 25 with plenty of games behind him. His passing hasn't improved under Critchley.
Yates plays his own high energy way and is no different to the way he played before at Swindon.
Ballard was a full international when he came here and from Arsenal.
I haven't seen any improvement in Gabriel, Mitchell, Robson, Lubala, Anderson, Woodburn or Kemp.
Kaikai has gone backwards.
62: You can't be for real. Players that are in form and it's down to the individual. Players that are out of form and it's the Manager's fault. 😂
 
We may be mid table but are we in a false position?

You certainly need luck and it just hasn’t gone our way in most games.

Can anyone say we didn’t deserve any of our wins.
Or the draws we have earned, Maybe Accrington but I cannot think of any.

Now look back at other games where we deserved a lot more.

I am talking about Plymouth, Crewe, Lincoln, Wimbledon, Donny ( remember stonewall penalty)Oxford and even Bristol Rovers.
I am not looking at these games wearing tangerine specs neither.

Worth mentioning that we have only played 9 games out of 21 at home so far.

We are at least 5 points better than our league position suggests.
The table isnt lying...we are where we deserve to be...we dont create enough chances, have enough shots on goals or score enough goals to be considered unlucky. I dont buy it and we must keep improving to move up the table...the next 3 are all winnable but you have to score goals to win games....we need 7-9 points
 
ward is just about good enough for mid table league one.
dougall maybe good enough for promotion
Robson hasn’t showed anything really.
virtue could deffo be good enough if he gets the bit between his teeth and applies himself properly
I disagree with most of that

Ward is one of the better players and needs a regular place...he maybe capable of playing in the Championship (AGAIN)
Dougall is good enough and could play in the Championship
Robson started well enough but has been disappointing since his stupid red card..he could bounce back
Virtue has the weakest credentials and has a lot to prove...I dont think he is up to it and if Turton Husband and Virtue are ALL in the first 11 next season then I think we will be mid table again

Dont take it personally North stand its a game of opinions and its great to talk football
 
Individuals win and lose you games.
Having an effective game plan over the course of a season gets you promoted, we aren't going to sign the best players available to league 1 clubs, it's just not going to happen, so we have to play a system that gets the most out of what we've got.
When we do bring players in they do have to be significantly better than what we have so in some ways I agree with you but if you never put decent crosses in the box or get more than 2 players in the area in open play we could sign Harry Kane and still be mid table.
 
Having an effective game plan over the course of a season gets you promoted, we aren't going to sign the best players available to league 1 clubs, it's just not going to happen, so we have to play a system that gets the most out of what we've got.
When we do bring players in they do have to be significantly better than what we have so in some ways I agree with you but if you never put decent crosses in the box or get more than 2 players in the area in open play we could sign Harry Kane and still be mid table.
Totally agree with this...thats why we should at least have tried 3 5 2. That would utilise most of the players who we have signed. I think that would actually be much more attacking than what we currently have. Mitchell or Garbutt and Gabriel will add a whole new dimension to the attack and you can still play Yates and Madine until we sign someone else and/ or CJ is fit again (he is the one player you cannot leave out) The 3 at the back of Marv Ballard and Iceman look like they would be solid and give the midfield and wing backs the ability to attack with impunity
 
We may be mid table but are we in a false position?

You certainly need luck and it just hasn’t gone our way in most games.

Can anyone say we didn’t deserve any of our wins.
Or the draws we have earned, Maybe Accrington but I cannot think of any.

Now look back at other games where we deserved a lot more.

I am talking about Plymouth, Crewe, Lincoln, Wimbledon, Donny ( remember stonewall penalty)Oxford and even Bristol Rovers.
I am not looking at these games wearing tangerine specs neither.

Worth mentioning that we have only played 9 games out of 21 at home so far.

We are at least 5 points better than our league position suggests.
A team that's only scored 21 goals in 21 games can't be considered in a false position unless they were lower in the table than we are.
 
I cant remember many games where the opponent goalie has had a blinder. That, and the 21 goals mentioned above tells its own story. As does the stat mentioned on commentary yesterday that all bar 2 of our goals have come from our forwards. Good teams find goals from players all over the pitch.
 
A team that's only scored 21 goals in 21 games can't be considered in a false position unless they were lower in the table than we are.

I agree with this. The facts are we are a mid-table third division team who don't create enough chances or score enough goals. Until we sort that out, we are not going to improve. We need to address this in this window and I'm sure Sadler will continue to back the manager.
 
We are where we are in the table and that's probably just about right. I do think we will end the season higher up the table than we are now though but then I'm an optimist.
 
It's daft this. We got a point yesterday against a team second in the table but most of my posts have been on the negative side without really wanting to be. Why is that? Probably down to the performance which although wasn't bad it was far from great. I felt more positive after the Bristol Rovers game because even though we lost we played some great football in that game which we didn't do yesterday. And that's the frustrating thing. Not saying it's one step forward and two steps back but something needs to change with regards to creating and scoring chances. Sure we miss CJ but we've had this problem all season. See what this transfer window brings.
 
I was really pleased with our early signings and expected us to add two or three quality signings in key positions, like a centre half, capable of marshalling the defence, a midfield general and a striker. Then came the bombshell of us being imposed with a player and salary cap, and we were at our League One limit. The pre-season matches, however, renewed my confidence in my belief that we would get automatic promotion. Looking at the fixture list, I thought we would be a few points clear at the top before the tougher fixtures came up.
It was a shock to see a naive team and manager, losing a good few early season games, whilst rigidly sticking to playing 4-3-3. Calderwood came to help NC and we changed to 4-4-2, when we looked a more balanced team and had a few good wins, punctuated by the Doncaster match. For me, the first half was the best we have played in the league this season, but the second half was disastrous simply because we never matched them up in midfield after their halftime substitutions.
When Accrington, Bristol Rovers, and Shrewsbury came up, I confidently expected 7 or 9 points, and we got one. It was back to 4-3-3. It's always nice to have a good FA Cup run, but never for it to put gloss on a mediocre league campaign.
The Hull match yesterday, back to 4-4-2, was far better. We seemed to be playing 11 plus the referee, and our defending was last ditch at times, but I thought we deserved a win. The next three games are winnable, and we MUST get at least 7 points from if we have any thoughts at all of a promotion push, so please, NC, pick our best 11 for each of them, in a 4-4-2, and send us up that table, PLEASE!!
 
I was really pleased with our early signings and expected us to add two or three quality signings in key positions, like a centre half, capable of marshalling the defence, a midfield general and a striker. Then came the bombshell of us being imposed with a player and salary cap, and we were at our League One limit. The pre-season matches, however, renewed my confidence in my belief that we would get automatic promotion. Looking at the fixture list, I thought we would be a few points clear at the top before the tougher fixtures came up.
It was a shock to see a naive team and manager, losing a good few early season games, whilst rigidly sticking to playing 4-3-3. Calderwood came to help NC and we changed to 4-4-2, when we looked a more balanced team and had a few good wins, punctuated by the Doncaster match. For me, the first half was the best we have played in the league this season, but the second half was disastrous simply because we never matched them up in midfield after their halftime substitutions.
When Accrington, Bristol Rovers, and Shrewsbury came up, I confidently expected 7 or 9 points, and we got one. It was back to 4-3-3. It's always nice to have a good FA Cup run, but never for it to put gloss on a mediocre league campaign.
The Hull match yesterday, back to 4-4-2, was far better. We seemed to be playing 11 plus the referee, and our defending was last ditch at times, but I thought we deserved a win. The next three games are winnable, and we MUST get at least 7 points from if we have any thoughts at all of a promotion push, so please, NC, pick our best 11 for each of them, in a 4-4-2, and send us up that table, PLEASE!!
If we stick with 4 4 2 we need to get more out of the full backs and wide midfield players, not contributing enough to make it work properly, unfortunately without Hamilton we aren't making 4 3 3 work either!
 
Oo

62: You can't be for real. Players that are in form and it's down to the individual. Players that are out of form and it's the Manager's fault. 😂

There is nothing I've said that you could disagree with unless you're one of those who think Critchley can do no wrong. Much of why Pool are in the bottom half of the league is, in my opinion, down to him.
 
I disagree with most of that

Ward is one of the better players and needs a regular place...he maybe capable of playing in the Championship (AGAIN)
Dougall is good enough and could play in the Championship
Robson started well enough but has been disappointing since his stupid red card..he could bounce back
Virtue has the weakest credentials and has a lot to prove...I dont think he is up to it and if Turton Husband and Virtue are ALL in the first 11 next season then I think we will be mid table again

Dont take it personally North stand its a game of opinions and its great to talk football
Not taking personally at all mate we are all entitled to our opinions 👍
Yours is just wrong 😁😁
 
Turton mostly dependable but totally uninspiring. A full back of the old school. In a 433 athletic high press he ought not to be anywhere near the first team and that he is shows the Crtichball experiment to have failed with this particular squad. The question is whether he keeps on the same path to try to reach the tikataka summit or we choose a different path.
Yet, I don't see that. Turton is quite a clever player, with good forward movement and passing. He lacks the pace to deal with tricky and Lacey wingers - which is what Hull had on both wings yesterday. However, like we always say, if he had those attributes too, he'd be a Championship player.
 
62. I disagree with your interpretation of virtually everything you say. If I thought you were for real I'd feel sorry for you because nobody could have lived to the age your username implies with such a negative outlook on life.
Carry on being Devils Advocate.
 
I keep reading people saying Kaikais attitude stinks and i really dont understand how people can tell that by watching matches from their laptop

Yes he's currently out of form but is also playing out of position

If it wasn't for his winners against wigan and milton keynes we would be 6 points worse off
Just lazy thinking. Same as people moaning that Matt Phillips never won headers or Keith Southern wasn’t Charlie Adam.
 
I think we are a work in progress, we look brilliant sometimes then other games distinctly average. Hull have some decent players, thought the right back & Honeyman were quality and Wilks is a threat. We look impotent out wide but we are missing our most dangerous forward player in Hamilton, take him or that level of player out of any team in this League and they wouldn’t look as good offensively.

“The Blackpool way” was just a bit of PR, it’s just words. Winning football is the future.

We can get frustrated at the moment, but you can see progress particularly from the start of the season, which hasn’t helped our league position.

Let’s not rewrite history on Simon Grayson though, I went to about 6 away games last season and we were so impotent Rochdale, Accy, Bolton, Tranmere, the stand-outs, we looked absolutely clueless and had zero drive towards the end of his reign.

Critchley over Grayson every day of the week for me, we just have to be patient as he’s learning the League and learning to manage professional footballers. If we aren’t near the top at the end of this season, yes it’s a waste but the time to judge is the middle of next, I know that’s a painful wait but to be honest from a selfish point of view not being able to go in the ground and witness it, it just isn’t the same, training games with a league it feels like at any level, the hyped up game just then did to me.

Next two transfer windows are important, needs to be a targeted approach and offload a load of garbage we’ve signed at hogs expense wage wise, Thorniley, Nuttall, Howe to name a few.

A centre forward, a winger who beats his man and crosses it, would also like a centre mid who drives forward and beats a man but it’sequally important to offload all that dross we have, they are stealing a wage.
 
62. I disagree with your interpretation of virtually everything you say. If I thought you were for real I'd feel sorry for you because nobody could have lived to the age your username implies with such a negative outlook on life.
Carry on being Devils Advocate.
Surprisingly, he is. His history of abusing other supporters on Facebook during the Oyston boycott years backs up his credentials: but undermines his position and judgement in just about anything true supporters hold important. We can all only speculate as to what it was that led him to fund the Oyston’s cashcow when everyone else made sacrifices. I guess he hasn’t read Sadler’s message to fans about online abuse towards his management and players. Nor this board’s thread about offence towards others. Best pitied and ignored.
 
As soon as I saw the team sheet my immediate reaction was - that's not our best team

If we want to win games we need to play our best team every game and stop making unnecessary subs
I wasn't disappointed with the team selection but knew Lubala and Kaikai were a risk. Disappointingly they didn't repay the faith the manager showed in them.
I would have picked the other nine.
 
Ok i will be honest i didn't want Critchley as our manager, I've said as much several times

I wanted someone with more experience

Our transfer window was all a bit scattergun signing loads of attacking players who don't have set positions

We must have about half a dozen of this sort

We also started the season without a proper defensive midfield player Dougall came in later as did the Viking and Ballard

All 3 are great signings imo

So we basically started the season under prepared for the season ahead

We were sold on fast attacking football with a high press, like some sort of tikki takka Barcelona of the 3rd tier

I think its fair to say it didn't work

The upturn in form was when Madine came back into favour along with the 3 who i mention above

Madine is a target man but is also a bit of a leader and a character, he wasn't first choice by any stretch of the imagination as he doesn't really fit into the football philosophy that the board and manager had been pushing all season

So we are kinda stuck between getting results the ugly way with a more traditional 442 or 4411

Or the more expensive way and Critchleys obviously preferred system of 433

I have no problem with either style or system as long as we are getting results

But lets be honest we certainly aren't playing the attacking football that we have been promised

Its a bit of a dilemma for sure and at the moment we appear to have several players out of form and a bit confused on their roles

I dont know why we are playing wide men on their wrong side like kaikai when we have at least 2 other left footed players who could perform that role better

Kaikai is this months scapegoat a few have worn that badge this season when in reality we should be looking at Critchley

These are Critchley players now, his system and tactics and its all a bit average and a million miles away from the fast attacking free flowing football that we were all promised

Results are ok and we are doing ok in the league about mid table and about where we were this time last season

All a bit average isn't it?

Utp...
As they say, Rome wasn’t built in a day.
Not everything works straight away.
Perhaps some players, who were thought to fit the bill, need further work.
Perhaps the preferred systems need more work and a change in some personnel to bring things to fruition.
These things take time.
It’s very easy to snipe, criticise and find fault!
Give Critchley time!
 
Yeah we got a point and it wasn't a great watch was it, Hull aren't that great are they?

Intact i haven't seen one team this season who i think are that great

Its all a bit of a muchness and any team can get beat any other on any given day

We are playing catch up a bit so a point is errrr ok ish i guess ...
It wasnt great to watch? Clearly you didnt watch it then be sure I thought it was a fantastic game of football.
 
Madine is an experienced player who Critchley didn't want to select but was forced into it following bad results. His form isn't down to Critchley.
Ekpiteta is 25 with plenty of games behind him. His passing hasn't improved under Critchley.
Yates plays his own high energy way and is no different to the way he played before at Swindon.
Ballard was a full international when he came here and from Arsenal.
I haven't seen any improvement in Gabriel, Mitchell, Robson, Lubala, Anderson, Woodburn or Kemp.
Kaikai has gone backwards.
Will you just go jump off the tower.
 
As soon as I saw the team sheet my immediate reaction was - that's not our best team

If we want to win games we need to play our best team every game and stop making unnecessary subs
Based on who was available to the manager it was as good a side as he could have picked.

Agree with unnecessary subs. I sometimes get the impression that NC wants to try things to show us that he's a great coach who is outthinking his opponent. I know that's probably bollocks, but it does look that way at time. The world is full of coaches making a simple game more difficult. Square pegs in round holes, players asked to play in half positions where they're neither one thing or the other and too much tinkering when simply putting your best X1 out would give you the highest probability of getting 3 points.
 
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