2 ponts dropped that

Definitely two points dropped.

Disagree with his starting line up but he' s not gonna get it right all the time. Subs didn't work out either and disrupted us but I'm sure he didit with the intention of trying to win the game.
Incredibly frustrating as with afew teams above us losing it was a good opportunity to make up ground of more than one point but it's inevitable when you aren't taking your chances then results like today are gonna happen.
 
Admittedly strange formation - Madine looked a bit lost most of the time, but agree with the substitutions. Ok, it didn’t come off, but the starters looked like they were running out of steam & it was a late throw of the dice to break the deadlock.

OK again - not thrilling, but overall I’ll take a point
 
Playing a team lacking in confidence

Bizarre making so many substitutions as well when we were in control, we just handed them the initiative in the last 10 minutes

Poor management if I'm honest
A bit like when we made 4 subs at once away at Doncaster. Done very well last few weeks but I’d say this is the only thing that’s really irked me. Too disruptive to the flow of the game especially today
 
Didn't realise we were that bad. I must have been watching a different game. Hit the woodwork twice. Kaikai slips when he is 8 yards out with the goal at his mercy. Could have so easily been a different story.

But it's the same old as soon as we don't win a game. Finger pointing and blame game. We limited a decent Oxford side to a couple of chances.

What exactly did Yates do against Fleetwood? He barely had a sniff. It makes me laugh how the same people that were saying he wasn't good enough 6 weeks ago are now saying he had to start today.
 
Not seen anything from Woodburn to justify a starting place, I'm not convinced he has done enough to get a place on the bench. Hoping the next time we see him it is coming on as a sub and making an impact, seen him do that for Wales but not much of note since.
Don't suppose any manager gets it right all the time and I would be very surprised to see Woodburn starting on Tuesday.
 
Not seen anything from Woodburn to justify a starting place, I'm not convinced he has done enough to get a place on the bench. Hoping the next time we see him it is coming on as a sub and making an impact, seen him do that for Wales but not much of note since.
Don't suppose any manager gets it right all the time and I would be very surprised to see Woodburn starting on Tuesday.
I agree that Woodburn shouldn't have been the one to come in. Had to be Keshi for me if Yates wasn't starting. I'm not sure Ben Woodburn has the desire to be a top player. He's neat and tidy yes. But there's something not right about him. He has had a bad injury. Perhaps that has affected him mentally?
 
The 4-2-3-1 looks to be more of a recent reaction to Doncaster outnumbering them in midfield second half the other week to me and not wanting a repeat.

And I thought Woodburn played either because it was just his turn or they put him wide left to move Kaikai inside, maybe to try for that CJ cutback. Which seems to be the main hope for a goal in this set up.

Was more relieved at Maxwell's save at the end. As you know for all the milling about up one end the zonal marking game will usually leave space off set pieces and in those moments. A bonus that he got that hand to Mousinho's free header onto the post as you could see exactly what Oxford were trying for after their subs.
 
I agree that Woodburn shouldn't have been the one to come in. Had to be Keshi for me if Yates wasn't starting. I'm not sure Ben Woodburn has the desire to be a top player. He's neat and tidy yes. But there's something not right about him. He has had a bad injury. Perhaps that has affected him mentally?
And he’s returning from a dose of Covid
 
Yep Woodburn is a shadow of the player who burst on the international scene with Wales

Doesn't even look like a league 1 player at the moment

No doubt about it the head coaches decision cost us winning that game today
I think there's some sort of gentleman's agreement going on with Liverpool. Why would you start him when he's done absolutely sweet fa in all of his previous opportunities?
 
I think the changes may have not benefited us in this game but the coach will be looking at the wider picture. Coming up to the busy Xmas period, it gives a few more of the squad some minutes ahead of when they will need to be called on. Going out of the cup midweek may have also made him think more about squad rotation now there's no more games in that competition to play them in.
 
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Making multiple subs at once rarely works and takes 10-15 mins to bed in
It's a tactic usually reserved for the desperate - not used when you are controlling a game albeit need a goal
Breaking up the Yates / Madine partnership and abandoning the 4/4/2 system that has turned our season arounds to accommodate Wooodburn was a strange one - I just don't get it
As Phil sas two points dropped today as they were there for the taking
 
Yep Woodburn is a shadow of the player who burst on the international scene with Wales

Doesn't even look like a league 1 player at the moment

No doubt about it the head coaches decision cost us winning that game today
It's interesting then that CC has so little influence and thus can't take credit for the 8 wins from 9.

*I realise this is just a poxy run chase.
 
I agree that Woodburn shouldn't have been the one to come in. Had to be Keshi for me if Yates wasn't starting. I'm not sure Ben Woodburn has the desire to be a top player. He's neat and tidy yes. But there's something not right about him. He has had a bad injury. Perhaps that has affected him mentally?
Why drop Yates in the first place, especially when he was forming a good partnership with Madine. Fuck squad rotation and play the in-form players every game.
 
Making multiple subs at once rarely works and takes 10-15 mins to bed in
It's a tactic usually reserved for the desperate - not used when you are controlling a game albeit need a goal
Breaking up the Yates / Madine partnership and abandoning the 4/4/2 system that has turned our season arounds to accommodate Wooodburn was a strange one - I just don't get it
As Phil sas two points dropped today as they were there for the taking
Holloway often used to throw 3 on at once. I think Brett Ormerod once mentioned that the squad knew the systems inside out so it didn't matter which players came on, they slotted in and did the same job as the players going off, hopefully with fresher legs.
 
The subs aren’t made early enough to make a difference and generally just don’t improve things. Aside from not putting Madine and Yates on the team sheet first it’s coach Critchleys weakest point.
 
Making multiple subs at once rarely works and takes 10-15 mins to bed in
It's a tactic usually reserved for the desperate - not used when you are controlling a game albeit need a goal
Breaking up the Yates / Madine partnership and abandoning the 4/4/2 system that has turned our season arounds to accommodate Wooodburn was a strange one - I just don't get it
As Phil sas two points dropped today as they were there for the taking

Don't encourage him.

On another day we'd have won that. On another day Maxwell might not have made that save near the end. On another day the Ref might have given a pen to us in the 96th minute. That's football.

I'll take the point that keeps the run going, who knows that just might be valuable come May. Onwards and upwards, bring on Hull.
 
Don't encourage him.

On another day we'd have won that. On another day Maxwell might not have made that save near the end. On another day the Ref might have given a pen to us in the 96th minute. That's football.

I'll take the point that keeps the run going, who knows that just might be valuable come May. Onwards and upwards, bring on Hull.
Exactly. Instead of two points dropped it was one point saved.

Brilliant defending from Maxwell.
 
It's interesting then that CC has so little influence and thus can't take credit for the 8 wins from 9.

*I realise this is just a poxy run chase.

He's got to re-invent himself, hasn't he? Can't go round being known as Pilley's Poodle all his life.
 
Playing a team lacking in confidence

Bizarre making so many substitutions as well when we were in control, we just handed them the initiative in the last 10 minutes

Poor management if I'm honest
I think the subs were a punt, you win some etc...

I know it's a cliche but it's still a learning curve, if we found something out today we take it forward. We remain on an unbeaten run and it counts.
 
People have gone from thinking we would be bottom at xmas to expecting to win every game now & that will obviously not happen 🤪

Felt it was 2 points dropped hitting woodwork twice so from that view disappointing. Mass subs late in game certainly didnt work.
Sometimes things dont go for you.
Has to be said that was an absolute Worldy save from maxwell!!
So positive is we didnt lose.
Its a long season .
 
But any team that averages a point a game is likely to be relegated, especially when it`s against teams near the bottom,those are the games we need to and should expect to win.

The obvious problem is our lack of goals and goalscorers.
 
I’ve gone from thinking we are relegation fodder with 433 to being boring mid table with 433. Which makes it all the more frustrating when we have shown we have a winning system with the players we have and that this could give us a crack at the upper playoff positions.
 
I`m talking purely about extending today`s result over a season.In other words if we averaged over a season what we`ve done today ,especially against teams at the bottom we would probably go down.
We won’t average a point a game though if we play like that every game until the end of the season mate we will win most and get promoted 👍🏼
 
I`m talking purely about extending today`s result over a season.In other words if we averaged over a season what we`ve done today ,especially against teams at the bottom we would probably go down.
If we'd extended last week's result we would have
been averaging 3 points a game and be on course for immortality. All our games are all really tight and we won't win every game that way. We won't win every game any way.
 
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I actually think critchley (or the management team if we're sharing the responsibility out) got a lot more right than wrong today.

I agree with others that it appears strange to break up the front 2, but tactically I think the system was spot on today and the 433 allowed us to get our matchwinners into positions where they could hurt Oxford. The fact we didnt score wasn't down to the system, it was just that we didnt take our chances and didnt quite create enough at certain points of the game.

The 433 (or 4231 as it became later in the game) allowed hamilton and kaikai to be higher up the pitch and get 1 on 1 with their fullbacks. Gabriel playing instead of turton appeared a deliberate ploy that meant cj had someone closer to him when he got the ball, as Gabriel got forward much more than turton does. We overloaded them down that side and to a lesser extent on the left with husband getting forward a bit more sporadically, but still reasonably often.

If we'd have gone 442 we could have been completely overrun in midfield, as I thought dougall struggled more today than in any game so far, plus ward struggled to get going 1st half, but thought he improved after the break and created a lot more.

Woodburn was the big disappointment and is clearly struggling with either confidence or fitnes, or both. He should have been replaced at half time and I thought anderson was the 1 sub who made a real impact when he came on and he should have been on much earlier. I suspect woodburn was given benefit of the doubt and a chance to prove himself today against his former club, but I'd be suprised if we see him start ahead of anderson or yates again any time soon.

We limited Oxford to a very small number of chances, and massive credit to maxwell for the save at the end which was top class.

I've been critical of the 433 system in the past, but against teams who don't just stick 8 men behind the ball, it works well as it allows us to get in behind on the break with width, and makes cj a bigger threat than he sometimes is in the 442, where the front 2 become more of the focal point.

Today was a better performance than some of the games we've won recently and was just a case of not being able to score. The 2 off the woodwork could have flown in on another day and its a different game then.

The stat that they had 25 clearances to our 1 was as unbalanced as I've ever seen in a game, although its potentially symptomatic of our slightly wasteful final ball for most of the day.

The players are becoming more familiar with the different systems and what their expected to do in each.

The triple substitution killed the momentum somewhat, and some of those changes were 10 or 15 minutes too late, but they were all like for like changes, so critchley clearly believed the system was working and I can see why he made those changes to try to add fresh legs to support what was already creating a number of half decent opportunities.

Disappointing not to win but certainly nothing to worry about. We've shown we can cause teams problems with different systems and different players, its just fine tuning and getting another clinical striker in during the window, who can score the vital goal in games like this.

Squad depth worried me at start of season but we're getting there and now have probably 18 players who can interchange and start now with cover in most positions. Still very reliant on maxwell, dougall, cj and madine, where we don't have direct replacements of the same standard, but elsewhere theres genuine cover.

Plenty of positive signs for me despite the result

On to Hull Tuesday.
 
But any team that averages a point a game is likely to be relegated, especially when it`s against teams near the bottom,those are the games we need to and should expect to win.

The obvious problem is our lack of goals and goalscorers.
Congratulations. Your ‘we should be winning games like these’ badge is in the post
 
I`m talking purely about extending today`s result over a season.In other words if we averaged over a season what we`ve done today ,especially against teams at the bottom we would probably go down.
If we extended todays result over the course of the season we'd get another 30 points giving us a total of 53. I doubt 53 points would get you relegated.
You can 't talk about the whole season because to date we are averaging more than a point a game. In other words you're talking shiite.
 
People have gone from thinking we would be bottom at xmas to expecting to win every game now & that will obviously not happen 🤪

Felt it was 2 points dropped hitting woodwork twice so from that view disappointing. Mass subs late in game certainly didnt work.
Sometimes things dont go for you.
Has to be said that was an absolute Worldy save from maxwell!!
So positive is we didnt lose.
Its a long season .
Point won In my opinion.
We were unlucky with the woodwork today.
Polar opposite of the same fixture last year.
Oxford ran us ragged and we got a 1- nil win.
Oxford could so easily have nicked a late winner,Maxwell’save was world class.
 
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