Perhaps an old head in the dressing room in terms of midfielders. Ok, I'm proper clutching at straws.How does Henderson manage to get into the squad ,it beggars belief
After Rice who's the spare holder with Phillips not in the squad?How does Henderson manage to get into the squad ,it beggars belief
Here I am TB. Southgate is an absolute pleb. Henderson was cr@p in Saudi and has been getting a lot of bad reviews in Holland too.Where’s bendit?
He's been playing crap there too.You can tell he's told Henderson he needs to be playing for a top club in Europe so he can justify picking him for the Euros, so he moved to Ajax.
Don't understand Southgate's obsession with him at this stage in his career.
I don’t get it eitherHere I am TB. Southgate is an absolute pleb. Henderson was cr@p in Saudi and has been getting a lot of bad reviews in Holland too.
He offers absolutely nothing on the playing field except for boring negativity and lack of skill. The only thing of a positive nature is that he's a positive presence within the team setup.
The sooner that Southgate goes for me the better.
You hope we lose?FFS! How can he justify picking Henderson? Must be trying to make a point and not bowing to public opinion. Doing this might come back to bite him. Hope so
I wouldn't trust a Rag. Man Utd are poor, Mainoo has potential but needs to prove himself a little more. I'd prefer to bend Connor Bradley's Irish ear and see if he fancies actually going to a major tournament.Delighted to see Branthwaite in the squad, the down side he's also included Gomez and McGuire. No Mainoo but Backpass gets in? WTF?
Put it this way, ask Man Utd if they'd swap Mainoo for Henderson and see what they'd say, enough said.
I wouldn't swap Connolly for HendersonDelighted to see Branthwaite in the squad, the down side he's also included Gomez and McGuire. No Mainoo but Backpass gets in? WTF?
Put it this way, ask Man Utd if they'd swap Mainoo for Henderson and see what they'd say, enough said.
So was Che Guevara, but he couldn't play football eitherLoads of youngsters in that squad, they’ll benefit from Henderson’s inclusion. He’s a leader.
Which would mean losing?Of course not Lytham but I would love to see England go to the Euros without Southgate as manager.
It's because he's not your usual meat and potato chest beating 442 kind of manager, he's also a bit wokey in the eyes of the gammon majority on here.I was born in 1969, Southgate is by far the most successful manager England have had in my lifetime.
I just don't get the hate. Makes no sense to me.
I was born in 1969, Southgate is by far the most successful manager England have had in my lifetime.
I just don't get the hate. Makes no sense to me.
Were the 2018 and 2021 squads really that spectacular? Compared to the 86, 90, 98 etc..squads. It's become a bit of a weird 'fact' with little to qualify it.Because like for like he’s had one of the best squads around at the time and relatively easy draws.
Some of the talent we have and some of the big boys of the past I.e Brazil, Holland, Germany etc are no where near the levels they were a decade or two ago and he hasn’t capitalised on that.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, we will look down the line back at the Southgate era and be baffled he won nothing with the talent he has and the weakened field against him compared to previous years.
Another reason for the “hate” is his selection of certain players no matter what, what happened to the “they’ll be picked on form” bollocks he spouted once.
And don’t give me the “they’ve never let him down” pathetic line, they’ve not won anything either….
Maybe ge should sign for lmLiverpool. They have no respect for England either.Tell you what, can’t stand Ben White.
Not wanting to be picked for England. Complete wet wipe.
Southgate was a penalty shootout away from winning a major trophy , a shootout we were actually leading at one-point. You can't get any closer.Because like for like he’s had one of the best squads around at the time and relatively easy draws.
Some of the talent we have and some of the big boys of the past I.e Brazil, Holland, Germany etc are no where near the levels they were a decade or two ago and he hasn’t capitalised on that.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, we will look down the line back at the Southgate era and be baffled he won nothing with the talent he has and the weakened field against him compared to previous years.
Another reason for the “hate” is his selection of certain players no matter what, what happened to the “they’ll be picked on form” bollocks he spouted once.
And don’t give me the “they’ve never let him down” pathetic line, they’ve not won anything either….
Mainoo isn't a holding midfielder, Hendo is just cover for Rice.Mainoo not being included but picking Henderson sums up boring Southgate.
Spot on that.Southgate was a penalty shootout away from winning a major trophy , a shootout we were actually leading at one-point. You can't get any closer.
You completely disregard opposition as if there's nothing to beat at the moment or in recent times. There are always strong nations and good players. It's not a weak field it's incredibly hard as it's always been to win something and to only get one chance every two years in a knockout format.
We might have a golden generation of attacking players but we don't have one for defenders. That's where we might struggle. It's completely disregarded in the whole England are world beaters but the manager is holding us back bollocks.
Agree, too many whingers on here, all over one player and barely a mention for the rest of the squad. Mainoo is still only 18 isn't he? If he's good enough hell get his chance. Wouldn't rule out him being a wild card for the Euros. Throughout the squad though there is a huge amount of talent, which bodes very well for the Euros. At the risk of sounding like the whinging numpties though I don't rate Bowen.Too much focus on this thread on someone who will be a bit part player come the Euros if selected.
So many positives in that squad and if you care about your country at international level that would be naturally what you would get excited about instead of moaning and being negative. For what it's worth I wouldn't select Henderson any more even though I've appreciated his worth in the past. I honestly wish we had the Scots and other countries passion for supporting the national team instead of whinge whinge whinge.
Were the 2018 and 2021 squads really that spectacular? Compared to the 86, 90, 98 etc..squads. It's become a bit of a weird 'fact' with little to qualify it.
One maybe two world class players? The line up for the 96 semi had half a dozen players that would get picked now, Seaman, Adams, Pearce, Gazza, Shearer, Sheringham...that's not including the likes of Ince, Platt and Mcmanaman.
Southgate was a penalty shootout away from winning a major trophy , a shootout we were actually leading at one-point. You can't get any closer.
You completely disregard opposition as if there's nothing to beat at the moment or in recent times. There are always strong nations and good players. It's not a weak field it's incredibly hard as it's always been to win something and to only get one chance every two years in a knockout format.
We might have a golden generation of attacking players but we don't have one for defenders. That's where we might struggle. It's completely disregarded in the whole England are world beaters but the manager is holding us back bollocks.
Who knocked Spain out in the semi.Against the mighty Italy that couldn’t even qualify for the next major tournament.